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Old 05-04-2021, 04:11 AM   #751
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Old 05-04-2021, 09:49 AM   #752
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I've been rabidly searching for "Drift Mode" examples on dry pavement, all I can find are winter examples, which can be accomplished with much lesser cars (50:50 open diff or lsd WRX's for example), and the occasional pitiful powerslide from a dirt road onto pavement (so low coefficient of friction).
I think it's going to be a car that handles well; better than prior generations based on more available front camber.

I think the Mk8 will not drift on anything except for very loose/slippery surfaces.
It's going to be just as sterile an experience as ever, with too much computer intervention.
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Old 05-04-2021, 10:05 AM   #753
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What I’ve posted multiple videos of it doing it. Mercedes A45 does it too. Similar setup.
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Old 05-04-2021, 10:43 AM   #754
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First 5 seconds of this video will reveal how not a GTI the Golf R is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFRKXJzIJ0s
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Old 05-04-2021, 11:00 AM   #755
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First 5 seconds of this video will reveal how not a GTI the Golf R is:

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These are consistently hitting very very low 4 second 0-60 with a rollout. Also, the interior looks much cheaper than the Mark 7.5.
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Old 05-04-2021, 11:08 AM   #756
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These are consistently hitting very very low 4 second 0-60 with a rollout. Also, the interior looks much cheaper than the Mark 7.5.
Strange, I think it looks more upscale and modern. The 7.5 had an old nav screen and vertical center of buttons, vents and knobs. Reminds me of my old 2005 WRX with the SAAB silver interior.
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Old 05-04-2021, 11:11 AM   #757
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Luckily we are not getting EU/UK elsewhere base trim. Our R32/Rs have always been top spec cars with Leather interior. There are cheap bits here and there on the MK7, so it's expected on the MK8. I still don't want the touch sense controls.
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Old 05-04-2021, 11:18 AM   #758
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I absolutely loved my MK7.5R interior. Everything about it. I would buy a brand new car with that interior for years to come. Buttons where buttons were needed. A big touch screen in the middle, but not up so high that it's distracting. Angled towards the driver just so. Intuitive HVAC buttons so I never needed to look down but still knew exactly what button I was pressing. And volume knobs.

In my opinion, Audi got the better interface this generation, although the high vents really detract from an otherwise great cockpit design. The R looks like it's going to be too screen heavy. And given that the middle screen is the same height as the cluster, it's going to be pretty distracting. Just too minimalist. Audi on the other hand appears to have more separate buttons to control things. Separate HVAC. Lower screen.

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Old 05-04-2021, 11:20 AM   #759
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Strange, I think it looks more upscale and modern. The 7.5 had an old nav screen and vertical center of buttons, vents and knobs. Reminds me of my old 2005 WRX with the SAAB silver interior.
I could have been clearer. It looks like a much more modern design, but there's something about the implementation that suggests to me that it uses lower quality (e.g., more hard plastic) materials. One of the EU reviewers mentioned that the rear portion of the interior of modern VW's is worse than the previous generation.

Hopefully it's awesome in person. In any case, it's world's better than Subaru's current best.
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Old 05-04-2021, 12:03 PM   #760
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The MK7 and MK7.5 didn't change for interior. I had the 7 S and currently have the 7.5 SE.

The MK8 interior is different and outside the seating, it looks to be getting people ready for the switch to EV and ****ty fisher price plastic and media control interiors Tesla has ruined the car world with.
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Old 05-04-2021, 12:49 PM   #761
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Wow, this VVVVV is hideous and all over the place. And people knocked Acura's interior design.

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Old 05-04-2021, 01:15 PM   #762
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This one has me saying no to the Golf R. Harry's frustration with the Golf R screen, lack of manual buttons/controls, umm yeah. Just pisses me off more with Toyota.
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Old 05-04-2021, 02:50 PM   #763
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Strange, I think it looks more upscale and modern. The 7.5 had an old nav screen and vertical center of buttons, vents and knobs. Reminds me of my old 2005 WRX with the SAAB silver interior.
I owned an MK7 Golf R and I thought the interior was pretty classy for the segment and materials were a step above the competition. It dates back to 2014 so while the layout is maybe a little dated today it still holds up well. The MK8 looks like a total downgrade in materials and design. I like the screen being moved up and the improved LDC instrument cluster but the execution looks more Honda than VW and the haptic buttons on the steering wheel are a joke. Hopefully the MK8.5 update smooth's over the rough edges as this interior will definitely not age well.

I have found that Audi interiors in general as not as good as they used to be so maybe this is a VAG thing where they are cutting back.
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Old 05-04-2021, 04:05 PM   #764
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A bit of "old man yells at technology" but I tend to agree.

I guess you're not supposed to wear gloves in the winter if you want to use the buttons or touchscreens?
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I guess you're not supposed to wear gloves in the winter if you want to use the buttons or touchscreens?
That’s a very good point. A car you can’t use while wearing gloves isn’t of any use to me.
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Not when I'm driving. Especially after getting into a cold car the first thing on a winter morning.
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Not when you're driving what? Did you click the link?
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Old 05-04-2021, 05:26 PM   #769
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Actually in the winter in my snow belt state, I take my gloves off as soon as I enter my dd (WRX) as I do not want to spread road salt and grime (from opening the door and trunk) all over the interior..
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Actually in the winter in my snow belt state, I take my gloves off as soon as I enter my dd (WRX) as I do not want to spread road salt and grime (from opening the door and trunk) all over the interior..
this.

gloves are dirty and hoard things that scratch touch screens. At least with your finger your can feel when there's dirt between you and the screen.

And yes, I have lived in much colder climates than the one I do now.
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Old 05-04-2021, 06:54 PM   #771
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Ok here then:

Feeling Cold? Just Talk To The 2020 VW Golf Mk8 And It’ll Take Care Of You
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Automakers have been experimenting with smart technologies for a few years now, and this led to the creation of some very clever vehicles that you can talk to and tell them to access certain functions without taking your hands off the steering wheel.
The best part is that you do not have to spend a fortune for a high-end luxury model to enjoy such features, as even the new generation of Volkswagen’s mainstream Golf can get the job done. When equipped with the three-zone climate control, it adds the Smart Climate menu that allows users to activate specific functions through voice control.

Some of the commands that you can give to the car include ‘warm feet’, ‘cold feet’, ‘warm hands’ and so on, which makes it automatically adjust the temperature and direct the air flow to where it is needed. Saying ‘clear view’ will demist the windows, while ‘fresh air’ will blow a cool breeze throughout the cockpit. ‘I am cold’ or ‘I am warm’ voice commands also work, and you can even tell it to ‘make it four degrees warmer’, or inform it that ‘there’s a draught’ or ‘it’s stuffy’.

You don’t have to be driving the 2020 Golf to play with this technology either, as it detects whether it comes from the driver or front seat passenger. Should you wish to do it the good ol’ fashion way – i.e. manually, then you can do so by sliding your finger(s) over the touch-sensitive buttons located at the bottom of the infotainment system, or just use the display. It’s worth noting that the Smart Climate functions are activated temporarily and will eventually revert to the previous active settings for the A/C.
https://www.carscoops.com/2020/01/di...o-your-liking/
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I would have considered the MK8 with a more traditional interior. Haptic buttons and digitized controls for essential functions is a non-starter.

Honda has handled the modernization of the 2022 Civic interior much better.
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Where does he drift a Mk8 Golf R in that video? The first ~5 seconds shows him going in a circle with the rear tires squealing, and pulling out when he starts to do a donut (aka when he initiates counter-steer); after that it's just high speed attempt.

Again, I have yet to find a video of the Mk8 Golf R drifting on dry pavement.

I have seen the video referenced above where he almost does a donut.
I have seen Chris Harris get the tail out momentarily when comparing it to a BMW on track.
Other than that it's only snow videos that show any semblance of drifting.

If you've got something please share it, I'd like to see it.
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It's doing the business with the nannies off. PTU cooler is probably already being worked on as I type this.

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Where does he drift a Mk8 Golf R in that video? The first ~5 seconds shows him going in a circle with the rear tires squealing, and pulling out when he starts to do a donut (aka when he initiates counter-steer); after that it's just high speed attempt.

Again, I have yet to find a video of the Mk8 Golf R drifting on dry pavement.

I have seen the video referenced above where he almost does a donut.
I have seen Chris Harris get the tail out momentarily when comparing it to a BMW on track.
Other than that it's only snow videos that show any semblance of drifting.

If you've got something please share it, I'd like to see it.
The MK7/7.5 would not do this...at all. It would be sad excruciating terminal understeering tire murder.
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