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Old 04-01-2022, 03:01 PM   #176
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Old 04-01-2022, 03:02 PM   #177
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Old 04-01-2022, 03:11 PM   #178
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Yup. Not sure Iíd want to be seen driving this daily. Awesome auto-x or HPDE car though.
the big wing and big hood circuit edition? probably not. it suffers from the same affliction as the Civic Type R (and N edition cars from Hyundai), it may all be functional, but it looks like a tarted up ricer, and that has never been my style, I'm more of a goer, not a shower.

the core edition though in white or black? most people won't even recognize it beyond a compact hatch. they won't even notice it has wider fenders. it would be cool if you could get the forged carbon roof without all that other jazz though.
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Old 04-01-2022, 03:11 PM   #179
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Yeah, the Corolla still looks better than the WRX. Even with all that I said and that charge port center pooper. That's not even open to debate. What is open to debate is small hatchback vs. big sedan. Some people prefer one over the other as a daily. Better to have options to no options.
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Old 04-01-2022, 03:20 PM   #180
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lol, I was going to say, the bumper of the GRC looks just as baboon butt like as the WRX.
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Old 04-01-2022, 03:21 PM   #181
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WRX looks better and it has a ton more room. Obviously the Toyota offers more performance but likely at a much higher price. I doubt anyone will be able to touch one under 50K with the ADM's going on right now. Performance aside, this thing has terrible interior space and looks like a RC car but I'll bet it is a hoot to drive. This is not something I would cross shop against the WRX.
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Old 04-01-2022, 03:22 PM   #182
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That is a really weird looking rear facia on that corrolla...did they borrow that gigantic bumper from a tundra or Something . A car that actually makes the WRX rear facia look clean. Who knew.

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Old 04-01-2022, 03:32 PM   #183
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The GR Corolla is ugly in a group B rally car kind of way. Function over form. The WRX is ugly in a "CUV that's trying as hard as possible to seem sporty" kind of way.
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Old 04-01-2022, 03:48 PM   #184
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I'll take the GRC just for having the rear wiper
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Old 04-01-2022, 04:15 PM   #185
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I'm just going to re-badge mine when it comes and Put Legacy GT, because that's pretty much what it is. Although now I wish I never parted ways with the 07 LGT
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the big wing and big hood circuit edition? probably not. it suffers from the same affliction as the Civic Type R (and N edition cars from Hyundai), it may all be functional, but it looks like a tarted up ricer, and that has never been my style, I'm more of a goer, not a shower.

the core edition though in white or black? most people won't even recognize it beyond a compact hatch. they won't even notice it has wider fenders. it would be cool if you could get the forged carbon roof without all that other jazz though.
I saw a modded normal Corolla hatch the other day and it was regrettable.

I actually like the CE better than the Core. Then again both are Mazdaspeed 3 copies. Not saying I wouldnít enjoy driving it on track.
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Old 04-01-2022, 04:36 PM   #187
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This would be my wife's car. But she's not sold on the looks. Not only in a general sort of way as she's not a fan of the Corolla hatchback. Particularly the rear. But with this she doesn't like how the rear quarter flares look tacked on and sit way too low. The rendering made them look less pronounced, more integrated. But I was right, they are bigger. And in a bad way. The Sienna and Highlander pulls off the Supra look better.

Also: White black and red...really? In a $40k Corolla? The base Corolla has like 13 colorways. That part seems like a huge miss. It should come in every color the Corolla has at the very least. But I would have expected more special colorways as being options, like with the TRD models. Sure, pull the trigger on white and be done. But there are so many better colors at their disposal to choose from.

Small gripes, but excited about this option. Probably won't ever be able to find one, and the price will be far more than it's worth. At least the Golf R will have fewer car vultures and speculators circling it.

While Iím disappointed that the color options are slim, the standard Corolla is built in a typical mass production plant while this is built in Motomachi with a bunch of chassis weld/adhesive improvements. Thatís pretty darn cool.


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I'm excited that non-motorcycle motorheads are finally catching on to 3 cylinders. Kudos to Gazoo Racing for bringing it to the US in the GRC.
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Nah, he's right, sorry. Damn shame, a travesty, to buy something like this and do that with it. A bunch of people doing the same will make it impossible to acquire for the drivers who are actually going to use it for what it was designed for. It will literally price them out.

Motomachi just doesn't have the production capacity to compensate for all the hype train people, image buyers, Subros, Toyota fans, rally fans, F&F crowd, latest new thing crowd, the 6 figure car collection owners looking for another notch in their bed frame, the people who'll just use it to sit in bumper to bumper traffic as well as drive thrus, the folks who want it to be a family truckster, and all the Karens and Chads. It's going to be a mess unlike anything we've seen. Once the ADM dominoes start to fall even the most honest dealers will give in to greed. I wish they would have brought the GRY instead, it would have shook off a lot of busters. Damn shame. Then according to history of the USDM, when something is even harder to get the idiots want it more for some reason, and the ADM becomes literally, insane.

I read comments on some you boob videos oh my. This whole thing is even going to be worse than I could have possibly imagined. Comments such as "it's going to have 10k adm, but I don't care!" Another "why they don't they make this in blue!!!!". And more "why is this not a big family sedan?" It's just begun and we predicted this a while back. Once PR hits, here come the Chads and Karens with money falling out of their pockets.

Oh btw, they don't make a "racing model" whatever that is. And there aren't going to be any available to you when you decide next year you want one. It's not a Subaru man. You'll have to wait year(s) unless you're dumb enough to screw enthusiasts over by paying 5 figure ADM. GRY has multi-year waiting lists already and it's made in the same factory. For many they'll be even lucky to acquire before production is over and it hasn't even begun.

Must be a psychiatric thing to cling on to companies, like it's a deity, then turn on a dime. Sure will screw a lot of people over who've had their plans laid out for quite some time. The American market
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Are these manufacturers intentionally keeping production low to help their CAFE ratings? or is that not a thing?
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The door cup holders should be the same as in the regular Corolla hatch, however the center console ones might be different due to the GR having a hand brake handle in that area and the regular one just having a button.
I wonder if you can retrofit the button? Handbrake is so 1990s.
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Bro... I said that to strike a nerve, mostly, which is why I referred to the trim like I did.
I know. I don't blame you either dude. Subaru sucks. They never served the community of their fan base. And their fan base is part of the problem. They didn't demand better/more. Some of us did. We demanded 5 door rally inspired hatchbacks and left over it long ago. But there was enough sycophants to keep coming, keep buying, keep toting the line. Ultimately that is the chickens that came home to roost.

Like I said I don't blame you one single bit. Plenty of people like yourself who've been in this segment for quite a while who are looking for a natural progression into something else. But nothing I stated was false. It was facts, and this whole thing will be extremely cumbersome for years to come. Ultimately it's not you, it's the Randys and Karens. The fly by night idiots that come in and ruin everything. This happens not with just automobiles, with so many things so numerous it's not even worth mentioning. Remember Elmo? It's like that. Ultimately we need more shiny things in these price ranges to scramble the Randys and Karens. New CTR, formal Z pricing, 6MT Supra, and more. The only thing that can help the AWD turbo 6MT folks is some competition and there is little. There has been no Japanese AWD turbo hatch since my GR in 2014. 8 years as of now. Throw in some STI cancel culture, still no EVO, and everything I said prior and it will be a clusterF. I've had my deposit in for weeks, and would have been months if I could have found MSRP only quicker, and someone I could trust. The theoretical line I'd be at the beginning, to get that Heavy Metal. But I think that's out the window now. Collectors, ADM f'ers, the rich tiki torch whites, will swarm in like they do with so many other things, and that's that mattress man.

I just had this discussion with a car fiend whose had his deposit for a GR86 for quite a while. He's also a watch guy. Apparently Swatch and IIRC Seiko partnered up for some new watch, relatively inexpensive, compared to say a Rolex or whatever expensive shat, and the Randys and Karens came in and the thing is going for ridiculous money. This is like that. If anything, the GRC will help him get his GR86 sooner. Randys and Karens, they are neck swivelers, it doesn't take much. And a bunch of them who have deposits etc will just move it over to the GRC since they are waiting already. Because it will seat their kids (I sat in the base a month ago, good luck with this very compact car doing that duty) or so they think, or whatever reason they dream up. The buying process is going to be an absolute nightmare for many. Worse than they've dealt with ever, and will make the 2016/2017 Focus RS buying situation look like peanuts. It will be a hot mess.

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I know. I donít blame you either dude. Subaru sucks. They never served the community of their fan base. And their fan base is part of the problem. They didnít demand better/more. Some of us did. We demanded 5 door rally inspired hatchbacks and left over it long ago. But there was enough sycophants to keep coming, keep buying, keep toting the line. Ultimately that is the chickens that came home to roost.

Like I said I donít blame you one single bit. Plenty of people like yourself whoíve been in this segment for quite a while who are looking for a natural progression into something else. But nothing I stated was false. It was facts, and this whole thing will be extremely cumbersome for years to come. Ultimately itís not you, itís the Randys and Karens. The fly by night idiots that come in and ruin everything. This happens not with just automobiles, with so many things so numerous itís not even worth mentioning. Remember Elmo? Itís like that. Ultimately we need more shiny things in these price ranges to scramble the Randys and Karens. New CTR, formal Z pricing, 6MT Supra, and more. The only thing that can help the AWD turbo 6MT folks is some completion and there is little. There has been no Japanese AWD turbo hatch since my GR in 2014. 8 years as of now. Throw in some STI cancel culture, still no EVO, and everything I said prior and it will be a clusterF. Iíve had my deposit in for weeks, and would have been months if I could have found MSRP only quicker, and someone I could trust. The theoretical line Iíd be at the beginning, to get that Heavy Metal. But I think thatís out the window now. Collectors, ADM fíers, the rich tiki torch whites, will swarm in like they do with so many other things, and thatís that mattress man.

I just had this discussion with a car fiend whose had his deposit for a GR86 for quite a while. Heís also a watch guy. Apparently Swatch and IIRC Seiko patterned up for some new watch, relatively inexpensive, compared to say a Rolex or whatever expensive shat, and the Randys and Karens came in and the thing is going for ridiculous money. This is like that. If anything, the GRC will help him get his GR86 sooner. Randys and Karens, they are neck swivelers, it doesnít take much. And a bunch of them who have deposits etc will just move it over to the GRC since they are waiting already. Because it will seat their kids (I sat in the base a month ago, good luck with this very compact car doing that duty) or so they think, or whatever reason they dream up. The buying process is going to be an absolute nightmare for many. Worse than theyíve dealt with ever, and will make the 2016/2017 Focus RS buying situation look like peanuts. It will be a hot mess.
It bears repeating, that we need the Fed to stop printing money by the trillions. Thatís why the Karenís have so much money to spend, and buy up everything for sale.

They have stopped the printing press as of March, but weíll see how long that lasts.
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Put in a deposit. Could've been Subaru's money.

Circuit in red is the goal, but I'm not particular on color and all I really care about are the diffs. I do like the bigger rear wing, though.
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WRX looks better and it has a ton more room. Obviously the Toyota offers more performance but likely at a much higher price. I doubt anyone will be able to touch one under 50K with the ADM's going on right now. Performance aside, this thing has terrible interior space and looks like a RC car but I'll bet it is a hoot to drive. This is not something I would cross shop against the WRX.
ADM will be a thing for the Circuit edition. will the Core be a limited run as well? certainly at first it'll be a thing that it'll be hard to find, but a year from now? I guess we'll find out...

as far as the interior space, it'll be bigger than my BRZ, not as big as my wife's OBW, but it wouldn't need to be, just big enough to handle some of the in town driving with a family.

where it is a perfect shop against a WRX is that it is AWD, manual, performance oriented, and can handle family life when needed, the only question is what will the MSRP be, and to that we can all only speculate, and thus only jerk each other in circles.

a point to the interior space...

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Also: White black and red...really? In a $40k Corolla? The base Corolla has like 13 colorways. That part seems like a huge miss. It should come in every color the Corolla has at the very least. But I would have expected more special colorways as being options, like with the TRD models. Sure, pull the trigger on white and be done. But there are so many better colors at their disposal to choose from.
Yes really. The GRY in Europe is offered in Pure White, a pearl white, red, and black. And thatís it. Itís not a Subaru or whatever, where you have a bunch of color choices. Motomatchi is 1/2 hand built type of thing on their cars (simplifying here) and there is so much demand, well itís not hard to figure out why Yota keeps the colors slim. This is not a high volume model like say a Camry. Itís not a regular Corolla on another assembly line with the plethora of color choices.

So really, you should be happy we even have this option at all given how the USDM buyers are.
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Yes really. The GRY in Europe is offered in Pure White, a pearl white, red, and black. And thatís it. Itís not a Subaru or whatever, where you have a bunch of color choices. Motomatchi is 1/2 hand built type of thing on their cars (simplifying here) and there is so much demand, well itís not hard to figure out why Yota keeps the colors slim. This is not a high volume model like say a Camry. Itís not a regular Corolla on another assembly line with the plethora of color choices.

So really, you should be happy we even have this option at all given how the USDM buyers are.
You only quoted part of what I said. Read the entire quote.
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If this thing is actually for sale still in 2024 I'll debate it vs a Golf R. Of course it won't be a Circuit, just the plane Jane Core at that point. Lame.
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It bears repeating, that we need the Fed to stop printing money by the trillions. Thatís why the Karenís have so much money to spend, and buy up everything for sale.

They have stopped the printing press as of March, but weíll see how long that lasts.
Truth. We're going to be paying for that little exercise for quite some time.
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