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Old 08-17-2019, 04:12 AM   #26
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In post number 25 the OP says he was wrong it was 28psi.





So they both made 600 @ 28psi. Its pretty much down to whos dyno reads lower and whats the curve look like.

Since tgxnavy deleted basically all his stuff and sold the car after that Texas street racing fiasco I think its safe to say your never gonna see that particular curve.
Idk what happened but the graph was there a little under a year ago. But i have seen it fwiw
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Old 08-17-2019, 03:02 PM   #27
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plus its a Xona Rotor black. lol

its the same turbo
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Old 08-17-2019, 03:08 PM   #28
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Yeah I remember seeing it and it being impressive too. Too bad about whatever happened.

And to clarify I just meant it’s gone so no examining the curves to see who holds out torque the longest through the rpms etc.
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Old 08-17-2019, 03:11 PM   #29
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plus its a Xona Rotor black. lol

its the same turbo
Exactly, well like I mentioned above it’s the same compressor wheel, but smaller turbine wheel and housing. That’s why it would likely choke way harder on the OP’s setup with 284 cams, ported heads etc...

That difference in the change in hot sides illustrated by the op is wild. I’m wondering if I went wrong with the .82 tial hotside on my xr7864s, bigport heads and kelford 272s. Might have to pick up the tial 1.03 and do a little back to back testing like this. Although mine has the new uhf turbine wheel that’s bigger and supposed to flow like a larger wheel and spool like a smaller wheel, so that should help. The “small” cams should help too.

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Old 08-18-2019, 01:58 PM   #30
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Yeah I remember seeing it and it being impressive too. Too bad about whatever happened.

And to clarify I just meant its gone so no examining the curves to see who holds out torque the longest through the rpms etc.
roger that. Torque is where the action/ proof is imo too
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Old 08-19-2019, 07:07 AM   #31
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where were you when I was selling a brand new 7864 for $1800


The Xona rotor turbos are hands down the best for making power and especially reliability. Australian stuff always seems to be built with a much higher degree of quality and knowledge, thank you for sharing your graphs. Would you mind sharing any pictures of your AWIC setup?
No worries I'll take a few tomorrow
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Old 08-21-2019, 09:00 PM   #32
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Any plans to take it to a track, see what it does in 1/4 mile? Love to see some numbers there as well.
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Old 08-24-2019, 12:25 AM   #33
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Any plans to take it to a track, see what it does in 1/4 mile? Love to see some numbers there as well.
Yep will get it to the track just going to be a while as I have a broken arm at present. Shame as the weather is perfect this time of year for racing...
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Old 08-24-2019, 12:51 AM   #34
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Old 08-24-2019, 01:13 AM   #35
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Old 08-24-2019, 01:15 AM   #36
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Old 08-24-2019, 01:16 AM   #37
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Old 08-24-2019, 01:17 AM   #38
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Sorry for the rubbish images...car needs a good detail but will have to wait till I have 2 functioning hands.
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Old 08-24-2019, 03:56 PM   #39
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That's a cool setup. How is that intake/BOV plumbed in?
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Old 08-25-2019, 03:14 AM   #40
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That's a cool setup. How is that intake/BOV plumbed in?
Cheers mate! I just have a hard pipe in between the silicone elbows which also has an intake temp sensor in the under side.
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Old 08-25-2019, 09:50 AM   #41
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Dang man... all your pics are broked...
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Old 08-25-2019, 12:05 PM   #42
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Old 08-25-2019, 04:44 PM   #43
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Old 08-25-2019, 05:03 PM   #44
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Is the decrease in intake plumbing length worth the increase in tubing / complexity / weight? Also curious as to the statement implying Australian dynos read differently, as we use several different dynos in the US including Dyno Dynamics...which is what my car was tuned with.
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Old 08-25-2019, 06:27 PM   #45
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Is the decrease in intake plumbing length worth the increase in tubing / complexity / weight? Also curious as to the statement implying Australian dynos read differently, as we use several different dynos in the US including Dyno Dynamics...which is what my car was tuned with.
In also still wondering about this. Seems to spool the same as a fmic setup. Temps may be better but I expect awic spool to be way better than a2a ic.
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Old 08-26-2019, 07:36 AM   #46
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Is the decrease in intake plumbing length worth the increase in tubing / complexity / weight? Also curious as to the statement implying Australian dynos read differently, as we use several different dynos in the US including Dyno Dynamics...which is what my car was tuned with.
TBH the wight difference wouldn't be huge as it only has 6l of fluid so 6kg, pump weighs maybe 1kg. and. the exchanger at the front maybe 3kg. I wanted to build something different from most people. The W2A is super efficient and intake temps are always within a couple of degrees in the warmer times and below ambient in the cooler months. As for the dyne figures US vs AUS it seems everyone in the states is making more power than people here read into that what you will. IMO a dyno is just a tuning tool the track is where you will find the real indication. Plenty of people running good times over your way!

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Old 08-26-2019, 07:43 AM   #47
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That's a cool setup. How is that intake/BOV plumbed in?
Cross pipe to a welded flange on the intake all 38mm tube.
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