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Old 03-13-2019, 11:42 AM   #51
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So if I spun a bearing and didn't tow it to a dealership first then afterwards tow it to my independent repair shop I'm SOL?

I knew what it was when it happened and wasn't going to drive it to cause further damage and definitely wasn't going to the stealership when out of warranty.
UPDATE: I spoke with a Subaru rep when I called the hotline set up for this lawsuit. She recommended gathering all my documentation and submitting a claim even if the car wasn't first presented to a dealership. She didn't have much further info but she did say that conversations through the hotline are added to each individual case. Just make sure to include the ticket # in your claim submittal so the reviewers have a good record of everything.

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Old 03-13-2019, 07:10 PM   #52
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Got the letter as well. Looks like you fill out one form for reimbursement if you already got the repair done at an independent shop or sold/traded the car prior to repair. The other form is to exclude yourself from the class, in case you want to sue SOA on your own.

If I'm reading it correctly, they will reimburse you (subject to a cap) if you got it repaired at an independent facility, provided that you first brought it to a dealership and that dealership refused to perform the work at no cost.

If you want the extended warranty, looks like you don't have to do anything but continue to wait until SOA informs the dealership network. I called my local dealer last week and they had not heard of the extended warranty settlement yet. Guess I'll try again next month. Would be nice to have my car back within a year of it going down.
Thanks for the summary! I'm too busy to be sitting down reading legal docs so this helps immensely.
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Old 03-16-2019, 12:39 PM   #53
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I received the documentation as well. Kind of alarming to me.

Is this issue rare or is there a good chance my car will run into this issue sometime in the future? I planned on using this car for as long as I can. I make sure my car gets all regularly scheduled maintenance done, keep car stock no mods, and only use 93 octane gas.

From my understanding after skimming through the papers all the cars in the given VIN range will automatically be given an extended 8yr/100k mi powertrain warranty once the settlement is officially approved sometime in May.
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Old 03-17-2019, 01:27 AM   #54
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they have a website for the settlement
http://www.enginebearings.settlementclass.com

Looks like you can submit forms through May 22nd of this year. There is a fairness hearing in early June, and at some point after that the court will decide if they approve of things, or I guess if the fighting continues.
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Old 03-18-2019, 03:01 PM   #55
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I received the documentation as well. Kind of alarming to me.

Is this issue rare or is there a good chance my car will run into this issue sometime in the future? I planned on using this car for as long as I can. I make sure my car gets all regularly scheduled maintenance done, keep car stock no mods, and only use 93 octane gas.

From my understanding after skimming through the papers all the cars in the given VIN range will automatically be given an extended 8yr/100k mi powertrain warranty once the settlement is officially approved sometime in May.
Stay off of the forums, honestly. The folks with the problems are always the most vocal. That doesn't mean that the failures don't happen, but it isn't going to help your anxiety at all to subject yourself to these threads.

Keep doing what you're doing; you're under warranty for a long time yet, and if you stick to the above, I don't think you'll have any issues with the dealership or SOA if you do need a repair.

P.S. Follow the maintenance regime recommended for "severe driving conditions" or whatever they call it in the manual. Basically change the oil and filter every 3,000 miles.

http://www.cars101.com/subaru/maintenance-2017.html
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Old 06-17-2019, 11:16 AM   #56
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Is there really anything wrong with the connecting rods? If you came across a rod how would you identify it?
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Old 06-17-2019, 12:39 PM   #57
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Quick update on this.

My car has been at the dealership since early April and they are fixing it under the extended warranty provided by the terms of the lawsuit settlement. This was after I had to authorize up to $1000 in diagnostic charges, since they had to take the engine apart to determine if it was truly bearing failer.

Thankfully, that was the case. However, now the dealership is saying that while they're fixing the bearing issue, I need to cough up $1650 for a new turbo. They claim that metal filings got in there, clogged the oil lines, and now the turbo's junk.

What do you think? Sounds like BS to me, since I thought the oil filter would have caught that. At any rate, it was due to the bearing failure, so sounds like they *should* cover it. The car was around 400 miles from the last oil change (performed by the same dealership) when it failed.

How are the rest of y'all fairing with this?
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Old 06-17-2019, 12:49 PM   #58
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You can't be serious? The filings that damaged the turbocharger are due to a manufacturing issue they have acknowledged so I can't understand how they can justify passing off the cost to the consumer. I would fight that tooth and nail. Talk to SOA as your dealer sound like a clown show.
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Old 06-17-2019, 01:54 PM   #59
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That is correct that the turbo should be replaced under those circumstances. But I don't see why you should be paying for it.
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Old 06-18-2019, 08:05 PM   #60
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Quick update on this.

My car has been at the dealership since early April and they are fixing it under the extended warranty provided by the terms of the lawsuit settlement. This was after I had to authorize up to $1000 in diagnostic charges, since they had to take the engine apart to determine if it was truly bearing failer.

Thankfully, that was the case. However, now the dealership is saying that while they're fixing the bearing issue, I need to cough up $1650 for a new turbo. They claim that metal filings got in there, clogged the oil lines, and now the turbo's junk.

What do you think? Sounds like BS to me, since I thought the oil filter would have caught that. At any rate, it was due to the bearing failure, so sounds like they *should* cover it. The car was around 400 miles from the last oil change (performed by the same dealership) when it failed.

How are the rest of y'all fairing with this?
The failure caused your turbo to eat itself, you arnt responsible at all.
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Old 08-23-2019, 04:43 PM   #61
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Update: Happy ending.

Got my car back this week (after 13 months down) and didn't have to pay a dime for the repair (we'll disregard the towing costs and using another car for over a year). SOA claims dept agreed that the turbo ate itself because of the bearings, so I have new engine and hopefully better luck with this one. Break-in time!
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Old 08-23-2019, 08:30 PM   #62
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So, after reading through a bunch of posts and the legal docs, am I correct that my 2012 Base (103k miles) that coughed up a rod bearing last week would not be reimbursable by SOA?
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Old 08-23-2019, 08:38 PM   #63
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Update: Happy ending.

Got my car back this week (after 13 months down) and didn't have to pay a dime for the repair (we'll disregard the towing costs and using another car for over a year). SOA claims dept agreed that the turbo ate itself because of the bearings, so I have new engine and hopefully better luck with this one. Break-in time!
Not having a car for 13 months is total bull****. I'm glad you got it fixed but I would have expected better.
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Old 08-25-2019, 02:52 PM   #64
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I don't think I'll benefit from this but it's good news anyways. Had to raise my engine a at just over 100k. Stock, driven nicely, well maintained... wasn't happy... kinda stoked to have a brandy new motor now though
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Old 09-13-2019, 06:33 PM   #65
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Well I got my letter today from SOA and as I expected my claim was denied for not first presenting the car to a Subaru dealership. I am going to write an appeal for a second shot but don't expect anything to change.

Oh well.
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Old 09-16-2019, 10:05 PM   #66
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Has anyone else recently received correspondence from Subaru regarding this matter?
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Old 09-17-2019, 11:02 AM   #67
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I bought my 2015 WRX from Carmax last year, shouldn't I of gotten some sort of letter or is this only for people who bought directly from Subaru?

I remember getting something for my 2002 Protege when there was a recall and i bought it 2nd (Or probably 4th hand)

Also to add, for people that have had their issues addressed, did you have any modifications? My car is fully stock but i have an AP with the Stage 1 91oct OTS tune just to get rid of the dreaded rev hang. I haven't shown any signs of the issue but i'm worried for months or a year down the road.

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Old 09-17-2019, 11:13 AM   #68
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I bought my 2015 WRX from Carmax last year, shouldn't I of gotten some sort of letter or is this only for people who bought directly from Subaru?

I remember getting something for my 2002 Protege when there was a recall and i bought it 2nd (Or probably 4th hand)
You have an FA20 not an EJ25X; different engine series.

The lawsuit affects 2012-2014 WRX and 2012-current WRX STI's.
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Old 09-17-2019, 11:52 AM   #69
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You have an FA20 not an EJ25X; different engine series.

The lawsuit affects 2012-2014 WRX and 2012-current WRX STI's.
Everywhere i read shows both the WRX and STI. Perhaps you can point me in the right direction for more info on it? Because what i found doesn't mention the motor series.
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Old 09-17-2019, 11:57 AM   #70
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The model year cutoff for WRX's is 2014.
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Old 09-17-2019, 12:07 PM   #71
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Everywhere i read shows both the WRX and STI. Perhaps you can point me in the right direction for more info on it? Because what i found doesn't mention the motor series.
Everything I've read (including the press release at the beginning of this thread) specifically notes models with the EJ; affected models are:
WRX 2012-2014
WRX STi 2012-2017 (EJ is still in the current model as I mentioned earlier)

Go to post one on page one and follow links for more info.
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Old 09-17-2019, 12:53 PM   #72
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Everything I've read (including the press release at the beginning of this thread) specifically notes models with the EJ; affected models are:
WRX 2012-2014
WRX STi 2012-2017 (EJ is still in the current model as I mentioned earlier)

Go to post one on page one and follow links for more info.
Thanks for the guidance man. However on the same website there is another entry that states the FA20 is also effected.

https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2...-lawsuit.shtml

"The proposed class-action lawsuit includes all current and former owners and lessees of about 250,000 model year 2009-2018 Subaru Impreza WRX and WRX STI vehicles and who lost money or vehicle values due to the alleged piston ringland problems.

Subaru allegedly knew WRX and WRX STI components were defective in engines coded EJ255, EJ257 and FA20. The plaintiffs say engines should last at least 120,000 miles but the Subaru engines may last just half that time before they fail."


not trying to give anybody a hard time btw just want to make sure I/Others are informed.

Edit: Just noticed it's for Ringland issues which would be different than Rod and Bearing issues..

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