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Old 09-21-2019, 05:58 PM   #1
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Talking IAG stage 2 motor - need advice!!

Hello, I been on this forum and just lurk here and there. I decided to finally sign up and ask for help

Long story short, I am cobb staged 2 and blew the motor by mis-shifting to 4th instead of six...(thats the story and I'm sticking to it!) I went to the dealership only to get turned down and now my warranty is voided. In order for them to fix it, it'll be 7k out of pocket. 3500 for the short block and rest is labor. SO, i mind as well get something I really really want.

my budget is around 7-8k and was thinking IAG stage 2 block with a little extra goodies, tgv, egr, bps hybrid, etc. I plan on speed element to do the installation and pro tune.

do any of you have any experience with IAG? is there a must on changing things like water pump, fuel pump, clutch. I read this block is rated at 600hp and I'm expecting around 400, but what is the reality?

Is there any better options instead of this that'll save me a ton and I can add more parts to the list?


any information will be very helpful, I plan to get this started on monday or tuesday.

thank you!
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Old 09-21-2019, 09:10 PM   #2
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IAG is great, yet you can also have TiC build you a decent block for a tad cheaper (not much) also another great builder is outfront motorsports or Crawford, yes they come in a little more $$. they will all get you a great short block able to take a licking and keep on ticking!! I'd upgrade the clutch, hpfp (IBR upgrade), oil pickup (KB).. water and oil pump stock are just fine, only change them if had them get dirty from your engine failure (did the oil or water get contaminated with engine fragments?).. I'd do some head work for better flow and include the IBR intake manifold.. my 2 cents.. good luck.
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Old 09-21-2019, 11:51 PM   #3
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Element Tuning is another (more expensive) option.

http://elementtuning.com/competition...r-wrx-fa20dit/
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Old 09-22-2019, 02:55 AM   #4
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^^ That's another great option.

Another option is Jeremy @ Outfront Motorsports. Cool thing I like about his shop, he actually builds his motors and you get to speak with him personally. I'm sure that's the case with Element Tuning and Phil.

One thing I didn't notice with Outfront's description is that they use "seasoned cased halves". I'm not sure about that lol, I know IAG uses brand new case halves unless your block is reusable.
https://www.outfrontmotorsports.com/...nal-shortblock

Just realized you mentioned Speed Element, so you're in the bay area. Have you considered any other shops to do your motor? - Just asking lol
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Old 09-22-2019, 02:39 PM   #5
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IAG is great, yet you can also have TiC build you a decent block for a tad cheaper (not much) also another great builder is outfront motorsports or Crawford, yes they come in a little more $$. they will all get you a great short block able to take a licking and keep on ticking!! I'd upgrade the clutch, hpfp (IBR upgrade), oil pickup (KB).. water and oil pump stock are just fine, only change them if had them get dirty from your engine failure (did the oil or water get contaminated with engine fragments?).. I'd do some head work for better flow and include the IBR intake manifold.. my 2 cents.. good luck.
the clutch and flywheel is a for sure upgrade! Ill check to see if there is metal in the oil. no matter what ill be getting the heads serviced through a shop as well. I can probably squeeze a few grand more before the holidays but not sure. I might keep everyone updated on this build.

Is there an option to just rebuild? or is that going to cost alot more?
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Old 09-22-2019, 02:40 PM   #6
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Element Tuning is another (more expensive) option.

http://elementtuning.com/competition...r-wrx-fa20dit/
I saw this one actually! but I think this may be a little too much car for me
I think i will get myself into trouble.....
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Old 09-22-2019, 02:45 PM   #7
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^^ That's another great option.

Another option is Jeremy @ Outfront Motorsports. Cool thing I like about his shop, he actually builds his motors and you get to speak with him personally. I'm sure that's the case with Element Tuning and Phil.

One thing I didn't notice with Outfront's description is that they use "seasoned cased halves". I'm not sure about that lol, I know IAG uses brand new case halves unless your block is reusable.
https://www.outfrontmotorsports.com/...nal-shortblock

Just realized you mentioned Speed Element, so you're in the bay area. Have you considered any other shops to do your motor? - Just asking lol
outfront motor looks promising! thanks for the tip!

and yes I am! where JDM is lyfe! But I have considered other options, monday Im going to call around and see who can qoute me cheaper so I can throw in other necessary/luxury mods. I thought of them because they specailize in subbies and frs.. but when he said this will be our first attempt to engine build a 2015 wrx... light weight got nervous lol.

any shops you guys recommend?
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Old 09-23-2019, 02:12 PM   #8
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Might be far from you, but Vince at Rallispec can put together a sweet block for you.

http://rallispec.com/
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Dang, this would have been nice if I was on the east coast; super cheap labor too.

I found someone to do the work for $2350. Parts and labor (gasket kit, oil, machining the heads etc.). Place called tech3 in San Jose. Along with the block install, They値l be putting in a act clutch, killer B oil pick up. Is there anything else I should add since the short block is out?

After I値l install the tgv, egr, pitch stop mount, turbo xs hybrid bpv, then pro tune.

Thoughts??
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Old 09-23-2019, 05:38 PM   #10
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Trying to save money and built motors rarely go together.

Dont farm this out to the cheapest possible source you can find or you'll find yourself constantly chasing problems and issues that never get completely resolved.

You are completely unrealistic with 400hp with just TGVD/EGRD and a tbe. You will need to change to switch to Flex Fuek at a minimum to fulfill that goal.

If you're serious about this start researching the platform in-depth.
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Old 09-23-2019, 07:01 PM   #11
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Trying to save money and built motors rarely go together.

Dont farm this out to the cheapest possible source you can find or you'll find yourself constantly chasing problems and issues that never get completely resolved.

You are completely unrealistic with 400hp with just TGVD/EGRD and a tbe. You will need to change to switch to Flex Fuek at a minimum to fulfill that goal.

If you're serious about this start researching the platform in-depth.
1000x ^ this.

FBO and flex can hit 400 all day.
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Old 09-23-2019, 07:52 PM   #12
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Trying to save money and built motors rarely go together.



Dont farm this out to the cheapest possible source you can find or you'll find yourself constantly chasing problems and issues that never get completely resolved.



You are completely unrealistic with 400hp with just TGVD/EGRD and a tbe. You will need to change to switch to Flex Fuek at a minimum to fulfill that goal.



If you're serious about this start researching the platform in-depth.

I can understand saving money on a built motor is a BIG no no. I値l just go ahead and find a shop that値l do the job right. I値l throw the clutch in later.

I wanted to do flex fuel last but I guess that値l be my next time after the short block install.
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Old 09-23-2019, 09:48 PM   #13
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IAG is great, yet you can also have TiC build you a decent block for a tad cheaper (not much) also another great builder is outfront motorsports or Crawford, yes they come in a little more $$. they will all get you a great short block able to take a licking and keep on ticking!! I'd upgrade the clutch, hpfp (IBR upgrade), oil pickup (KB).. water and oil pump stock are just fine, only change them if had them get dirty from your engine failure (did the oil or water get contaminated with engine fragments?).. I'd do some head work for better flow and include the IBR intake manifold.. my 2 cents.. good luck.
Oh snap! Didn't see this until just now. Thanks for the shoutout Killadawg!
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