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Old 01-04-2023, 01:49 PM   #1676
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Is this groundhogs day? You guys are still sword fighting over the ADM discussion? I think I now know less about the vehicle and more about ADM and peoples posturing to which trim they decided they now want when previously stating that trim was dumb and lambasting others and vice versa


This is why we can't have nice things people. I swear, some of you would complain about having to pay taxes on a $2 billion lottery winning
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Old 01-04-2023, 01:49 PM   #1677
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Is this groundhogs day? You guys are still sword fighting over the ADM discussion? I think I now know less about the vehicle and more about ADM and peoples posturing to which trim they decided they now want when previously stating that trim was dumb and lambasting others and vice versa


This is why we can’t have nice things people. I swear, some of you would complain about having to pay taxes on a $2 billion lottery winning
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Old 01-04-2023, 02:31 PM   #1678
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Is this groundhogs day? You guys are still sword fighting over the ADM discussion? I think I now know less about the vehicle and more about ADM and peoples posturing to which trim they decided they now want when previously stating that trim was dumb and lambasting others and vice versa


This is why we can't have nice things people. I swear, some of you would complain about having to pay taxes on a $2 billion lottery winning
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Is this groundhogs day? You guys are still sword fighting over the ADM discussion? I think I now know less about the vehicle and more about ADM and peoples posturing to which trim they decided they now want when previously stating that trim was dumb and lambasting others and vice versa


This is why we can’t have nice things people. I swear, some of you would complain about having to pay taxes on a $2 billion lottery winning
double post says yes, it is groundhog day.

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Old 01-04-2023, 04:38 PM   #1679
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at this point, I'm just waiting the remaining days for delivery of mine so I can post up pictures for you and say I told you so from when you scoffed at my statement that I was planning on going into a dealer when they started landing on lots and make a deal before the end of the year, that's going to be fun.
You said you'd be able to stroll into a dealer in December, do a test drive, and drive away for MSRP. It's 2023 so you didn't make it

The ribbing, was that your word? LMAO. I guess you've got nothing better to do. SMH. I also don't care what you do or what you don't. It's not my money. But who was heckling who again? Was I the one who name dropped and started bull**** or was that you? That's rhetorical btw.
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Old 01-04-2023, 04:42 PM   #1680
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Between the two, I'd take the GR Corolla, but circuit edition, I don't want a Morizo, because it would be a DD for me, so kids in the back and all that. I don't do cloth, so the core is out. Drag race, roll race & lap times don't matter that much to me, I just want something fun, but it has to be able to get out of it's own way, I can't do slow cars, won't do FWD, and won't buy an auto again (unless it's an EV) three years in and my IS feels slow (it felt "adequate" when I bought it) and the past 3 years hasn't changed my feeling about autos, if anything, I like them less now.

I wish there was a lightweight (well "lightweight" for 2023) compact 4dr wagon/hatch with a 6mt & turbo 3/4/6 on the market with ~1hp/10lb or better, I'd take that over everything else currently out there.

Anything 4dr "compact" RWD with decent horsepower is ~3,900lbs or more now, that's like 900lbs more than I want, not to mention they all cost ~60k (or more, so much more) when configured, and very few of them have a manual option.

I will continue to not buy a new car, I guess.

To the ADM conversation that continues to rage on; I won't pay ADM, it will prevent me from buying a vehicle I want; however, I'm not going to buy a car I don't want just because they aren't asking ADM for it.
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Old 01-04-2023, 04:53 PM   #1681
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A GR version of the Corolla Cross would be cool. Flared fenders and the GRC drivetrain in a decently sized family package. It only weighs like 3285 lbs in current form.

Slap some of those anniversary stripes on the side for them hard parkers...

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Old 01-04-2023, 05:53 PM   #1682
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You said you'd be able to stroll into a dealer in December, do a test drive, and drive away for MSRP. It's 2023 so you didn't make it

The ribbing, was that your word? LMAO. I guess you've got nothing better to do. SMH. I also don't care what you do or what you don't. It's not my money. But who was heckling who again? Was I the one who name dropped and started bull**** or was that you? That's rhetorical btw.
closer than you could have ever presumed.

I spoke to the dealer today, the sales manager tells me they expect the car will arrive in 10 business days, I'm taking this to mean I'll take delivery sometime around January 21, or a bit later.

the deal we struck is MSRP. however, I couldn't back out of the PIO, also there are dealer options I couldn't back out of either, tint, ceramic coating, non-transferable unlimited powertrain warranty (good anywhere), non-transferable unlimited oil changes (only at their dealer, and on the standard service interval). to be clear, the cost for those things was very fair, it wasn't some BS $15000 paint protection to hide an ADM.

all of these things you find no value in, I'm sure, so you'll tell me it's a horrible deal, but for me, I don't have to take it to a tint installer, or find someone to ceramic coat. same as you, this will be a long term car for me, so extended warranty, and free oil changes are very nice. aside from maybe a TRD intake (when/if), and some RPF1s, I'm going to keep it stock.

so yeah, close enough for me to say, I told you so, but I'll wait till I take delivery to post a photo of me next to it with a hand written, dated sign, that says that.

the only part of the deal that I don't like is the interest. but I have a plan there. once I get out the door, I'll call the bank and put a hefty payment towards the principal. basically enough to make the loan terminate about 12 months early. which, if my math's right, will save me about 30% of the actual cost of the loan.
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Old 01-04-2023, 06:21 PM   #1683
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Nasioc investment experts will tell you to put that cash in the market for higher yields lol
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Old 01-04-2023, 07:26 PM   #1684
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Is this groundhogs day? You guys are still sword fighting over the ADM discussion? I think I now know less about the vehicle and more about ADM and peoples posturing to which trim they decided they now want when previously stating that trim was dumb and lambasting others and vice versa


This is why we can't have nice things people. I swear, some of you would complain about having to pay taxes on a $2 billion lottery winning
I think its ridiculous, you win $2b and then you end up with less than $1b in the pocket due to the lump payment, taxes, etc.
Its bs I tells ya






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Old 01-04-2023, 07:50 PM   #1685
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*Drifts the GR once, gets letter from Toyota revoking Warranty*
Thats a shame about the availability of a CE. Makes me wonder if its really even worth it for Toyota to include an Auto trans, unless theyll be able to ramp up production next year?
They definitely have more line capacity for the G16 at Shimoyama even if Motomachi doesn't have more capacity for GR Corolla. Narrowbody Corolla GR Sport (6MT or 8AT FWD) and Corolla Cross GR Sport (8AT AWD), maybe?

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Old 01-04-2023, 08:02 PM   #1686
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the deal we struck is MSRP. however, I couldn't back out of the PIO, also there are dealer options I couldn't back out of either, tint, ceramic coating, non-transferable unlimited powertrain warranty (good anywhere), non-transferable unlimited oil changes (only at their dealer, and on the standard service interval). to be clear, the cost for those things was very fair, it wasn't some BS $15000 paint protection to hide an ADM.
Nah, you said MSRP, that is not MSRP. That's a bunch of things tacked on, overpriced, and a form of ADM. I don't care though, it's not my money. I only care that it's NOT what you said before and kept repeating ad nauseam while you were being rude all of last year. Stroll on in and you'd test drive and drive one home in December. It's January buddy, and I don't really care either way, just the rude part sticks.

What I find hilarious is that you are acting like a child and think you are going to neener neener some stranger on the internet. I already turned down one of these, so it's not that. You go pay ADM, in whatever method, IDGAF. Off to the IL you go no matter what as I'm long past your bs.
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Old 01-04-2023, 08:06 PM   #1687
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They definitely have more line capacity for the G16 at Shimoyama even if Motomachi doesn't have more capacity for GR Corolla. Narrowbody Corolla GR Sport (6MT or 8AT FWD) and Corolla Cross GR Sport (8AT AWD), maybe?
I wouldn't be shocked to see the engine in more applications. Detuned, maybe even with cheaper internals, teamed with a hybrid.
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Old 01-04-2023, 08:28 PM   #1688
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Nah, you said MSRP, that is not MSRP. That's a bunch of things tacked on, overpriced, and a form of ADM. I don't care though, it's not my money. I only care that it's NOT what you said before and kept repeating ad nauseam while you were being rude all of last year. Stroll on in and you'd test drive and drive one home in December. It's January buddy, and I don't really care either way, just the rude part sticks.

What I find hilarious is that you are acting like a child and think you are going to neener neener some stranger on the internet. I already turned down one of these, so it's not that. You go pay ADM, in whatever method, IDGAF. Off to the IL you go no matter what as I'm long past your bs.
Pre must stand for predictable.

At least we agree I don't need your approval.
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Old 01-04-2023, 08:39 PM   #1689
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Pre must stand for predictable.

At least we agree I don't need your approval.
Aight, I’m tired of this back and forth petty bull****. A lot of you are ruining this thread and what has been a larger issue on this forum.

Here’s how things are working going forward and relevant info.


Pre has asked me to delete his account. I cannot do that and it’s Nasioc policy post and accounts are not deleted. He is choosing to leave the site and that’s his own decision. Any reference, jokes, bashing of him will get points. Purely because I’m annoyed as **** at this petty **** that’s gone on for too long.

Discuss the car. Feel free to talk about sales you find where people pay $30k ADM. However, we are DONE discussing why you would or wouldn’t pay ADM. How it impacts car community, etc. We’ve beaten the horse to death, then lubed up its ass and continued to **** it for a while longer. We’re done, move on.

If I see petty back and forth “gotcha” or antagonizing post, I’m doling out points until you get it or are banned. Your call.


I’m also locking this thread for an hour to make sure you all read my post.
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Old 01-04-2023, 10:08 PM   #1690
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Old 01-04-2023, 10:30 PM   #1691
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See, this is the type of nasioc I want back. We use to be funny and fun people.

I want my (pun not intended) pre 2016 Nasioc back dammit!!!
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See, this is the type of nasioc I want back. We use to be funny and fun people.

I want my (pun not intended) pre 2016 Nasioc back dammit!!!
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I mean, the server/software is still at least that old, right?
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I mean, the server/software is still at least that old, right?
*blows whistle*

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See, this is the type of nasioc I want back. We use to be funny and fun people.

I want my (pun not intended) pre 2016 Nasioc back dammit!!!
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You post your whittle pics and the failed attempt at humor, all the time, thinking it's cute.

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is that the Subaru version with cladding?

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