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Old 02-27-2023, 07:58 PM   #1826
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It's weird how this works, because I think it's exactly the opposite.

With the hood and wing, it tries too hard to be something that it's not: a hard car. It's just a Corolla, albeit a special one. At the end of the day, it's just a 300hp 3-cyl heavy potato of a car.
Yeah I knew people wouldn't agree, and that's fine. I guess I just feel like without the hood and roof spoiler to go with the widebody, the Core looks half-assed. If you're gonna go "try hard", go all the way. Or just look like a standard Corolla. Obviously they wouldn't because of the AWD system, but the widebody looks so tacked on that I don't really understand skimping on the hood and spoiler besides cutting costs.

They revealed the Circuit Edition first and that made everyone drool. When I saw the Core, I just kept thinking, "...Really? " Not a head-turner for me. I can't find the picture, but not long after the 2011 WRX came out with its widebody, someone swapped an Impreza hood on it since they had a FMIC. That's basically what the Core looks like to me. Just less aggressive, more try-hard.
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Old 02-28-2023, 07:17 AM   #1827
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Yeah I knew people wouldn't agree, and that's fine. I guess I just feel like without the hood and roof spoiler to go with the widebody, the Core looks half-assed. If you're gonna go "try hard", go all the way. Or just look like a standard Corolla. Obviously they wouldn't because of the AWD system, but the widebody looks so tacked on that I don't really understand skimping on the hood and spoiler besides cutting costs.

They revealed the Circuit Edition first and that made everyone drool. When I saw the Core, I just kept thinking, "...Really? " Not a head-turner for me. I can't find the picture, but not long after the 2011 WRX came out with its widebody, someone swapped an Impreza hood on it since they had a FMIC. That's basically what the Core looks like to me. Just less aggressive, more try-hard.
I agree Chano, the hood I could do without, but the weak ass rear spoiler doesn't work for me on this particular car.
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Old 02-28-2023, 09:31 AM   #1828
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Yeah I knew people wouldn't agree, and that's fine. I guess I just feel like without the hood and roof spoiler to go with the widebody, the Core looks half-assed. If you're gonna go "try hard", go all the way. Or just look like a standard Corolla. Obviously they wouldn't because of the AWD system, but the widebody looks so tacked on that I don't really understand skimping on the hood and spoiler besides cutting costs.

They revealed the Circuit Edition first and that made everyone drool. When I saw the Core, I just kept thinking, "...Really? " Not a head-turner for me. I can't find the picture, but not long after the 2011 WRX came out with its widebody, someone swapped an Impreza hood on it since they had a FMIC. That's basically what the Core looks like to me. Just less aggressive, more try-hard.
I agree. I think the CE is the GRC. The base car looks bland. I could do without the roof on the CE, that just looks like a nightmare to maintain.
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Old 02-28-2023, 01:39 PM   #1829
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I'd have gone CE if it had the Morizo wheels, or wheels that looked like them at that $45k price point. The only things it had that I actually wanted were the seats and the GR-FOUR painted on the intercooler.

Like others here I felt the hood/roof/spoiler sort of made the look of the car initially. I soured on that look pretty quickly though after the initial shock of the reveal wore off. It's too much. From there I was neutral at best on the look of the car in general core or CE and that hasn't changed much but I definitely prefer the cleaner look of the core now. I like that it is quietly ugly instead of loudly ugly, doesn't bring attention to its homely figure. Same with the color, nothing to show off so black does a good job at keeping its ugliness under the radar.

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Old 02-28-2023, 01:52 PM   #1830
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The rear fender flare...still nope.

An Elantra N showed up in the neighborhood. That's also a nope. Hard try much?
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Old 02-28-2023, 02:30 PM   #1831
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The emotional side of me really wants to go out and buy one of these... The logical side says no.
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Old 02-28-2023, 02:41 PM   #1832
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The emotional side of me really wants to go out and buy one of these... The logical side says no.
Same here. First car in a long time thatís gotten my interest like this.
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Old 02-28-2023, 03:39 PM   #1833
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The emotional side of me really wants to go out and buy one of these... The logical side says no.
Do it. Manuals, and light-weight fun cars will be dead soon.
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Old 02-28-2023, 05:11 PM   #1834
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silver wheels look great on the car.

I was thinking of going with bronze, but silver is pretty good too.
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Old 02-28-2023, 05:11 PM   #1835
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silver wheels look great on the car.

I was thinking of going with bronze, but silver is pretty good too.
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Old 02-28-2023, 06:32 PM   #1836
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I appreciate the feedback from actual owners. I'm trying to stay in the loop about the GRC since I have no clue if I'll try to buy one next year or not. My Impreza has 130k and I never like keeping high mileage cars. This one holds the record. There really isn't anything else exciting to upgrade to besides the GRC, but I really enjoy having zero car payments.

samagon, what color is your GRC? I used to really want the CE in Heavy Metal, but I don't know what color wheels look good with that color car. Gray is too blah. Gold is too flashy. Black makes cars look heavy. Silver can be nice. Bronze might be okay.

I also debated getting the car fully wrapped in the Blue Flame from the current Corolla hatchback. Love that color.

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Old 02-28-2023, 06:37 PM   #1837
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Do it. Manuals, and light-weight fun cars will be dead soon.
A manual Miata will always be more fun, and they'll be around, preserved by old nutjobs, until the Earth's heat death (even after there's no dinosaurs left to burn). Motorcycles kinda ruin any sense of rawness and excitement from moderately quick cars. My 3-cylinder has 2 wheels, no turbos, and will scare the crap out of me and one brave passenger... just like the Morizo.


Eventually someone will make affordable EV sportscars that are more engaging than the current crop of isolation-mobiles... it's just a matter of time. I see no doom and gloom or need to buy into the latest hype for an understeering hopped-up econocar.
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Old 02-28-2023, 06:44 PM   #1838
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Motorcycles kinda ruin any sense of rawness and excitement from moderately quick cars. My 3-cylinder has 2 wheels, no turbos, and will scare the crap out of me and one brave passenger... just like the Morizo.
I'm with you there... my motorcycle is where I get most of my jollies out, but I only ride it a few months of the year really. I have missed having something more emotionally engaging to drive in the winter.

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Eventually someone will make affordable EV sportscars that are more engaging than the current crop of isolation-mobiles... it's just a matter of time. I see no doom and gloom or need to buy into the latest hype for an understeering hopped-up econocar.
I might just end up here, waiting for the next good EV sporty car to replace my leaf with. That was the original intent when I got rid of my R... I was just thinking that the major manufacturers were going to be quicker with creating sporty EV's...
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Word of warning.. the stock pads will turn any non-black wheel into a black wheel in short order. I've learned to love the look. All part of my black car ownership strategy of not giving a s***

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silver wheels look great on the car.

I was thinking of going with bronze, but silver is pretty good too.
The PS4's remain on the stock wheels for now and I intend to run them that way this spring, at least at first. But I will probably swap them around. I love the silver. Black GRC needs some contrast.
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Old 02-28-2023, 08:25 PM   #1840
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Are those Enkei TS10s?

Dustin Williams on YT just got a white GRC Core and I appreciate his enthusiasm for what the aftermarket will produce. Not having the CE hood wasn't a dealbreaker, especially because of the potential for aftermarket hoods in the coming year.

I'm definitely looking forward to the bottom line aero kits. I've always been a sucker for those. I'd also have more aggressive wheel fitment. I'm a poser, so something like 19x9 +30 would look proper on the GRC.

Actually ya'll should probably hope I don't get a GRC cuz I'd rice it out. I'm an FK8 Type R fanboi.
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Old 02-28-2023, 09:59 PM   #1841
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Are those Enkei TS10s?

Dustin Williams on YT just got a white GRC Core and I appreciate his enthusiasm for what the aftermarket will produce. Not having the CE hood wasn't a dealbreaker, especially because of the potential for aftermarket hoods in the coming year.

I'm definitely looking forward to the bottom line aero kits. I've always been a sucker for those. I'd also have more aggressive wheel fitment. I'm a poser, so something like 19x9 +30 would look proper on the GRC.

Actually ya'll should probably hope I don't get a GRC cuz I'd rice it out. I'm an FK8 Type R fanboi.
Yes TS10's, 18x8.5 +35. I just wanted a winter wheel I didn't hate, got more than I bargained for The stock offset is actually +30. Fitment Industries had the same wheels with +25 offset.. I regret not going that way.

Actually the wheel I really wanted to put on this was Rota Garagiste 19x9 +34. I figured out they're a rep of the Forgeline GA1R so I would not feel the remotest shame for rocking them. GA1R are like $2k per wheel

I hope you get one of these and throw the book at it!
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Old 03-01-2023, 07:26 AM   #1842
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Nice wheel specs! I was looking at those Rota wheels too. I think I've settled on the Rota KB-R 19x9.5 +40. Now I'm just looking at replica center cap specs with 3D manufacturer logos, like "GR" and the Toyota logo. I got a set of 3D "STI" logo stickers for black center caps on my Impreza and it looks OEM even though the wheels are aftermarket as well. I get compliments all the time.

Having been in the game for a while I'm legitimately making sure that if I do get a GRC CE that everything I want will be installed on Day 1. Including whatever might affect the performance, like overheating clutch packs.

Speaking of which, Just Driven just put out a new video and they're tackling solutions for the clutch pack overheating. Interesting bit of info at the end where he talks about tracking the GRC on stock tires that constantly slip are a big contributor to the overheating issue.


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Old 03-01-2023, 10:04 AM   #1843
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Nice wheel specs! I was looking at those Rota wheels too. I think I've settled on the Rota KB-R 19x9.5 +40. Now I'm just looking at replica center cap specs with 3D manufacturer logos, like "GR" and the Toyota logo. I got a set of 3D "STI" logo stickers for black center caps on my Impreza and it looks OEM even though the wheels are aftermarket as well. I get compliments all the time.
I'm all about the fake caps. I got a set of Toyota logo stick on caps on these wheels and overall it achieves the OEM look.

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Having been in the game for a while I'm legitimately making sure that if I do get a GRC CE that everything I want will be installed on Day 1. Including whatever might affect the performance, like overheating clutch packs.

Speaking of which, Just Driven just put out a new video and they're tackling solutions for the clutch pack overheating. Interesting bit of info at the end where he talks about tracking the GRC on stock tires that constantly slip are a big contributor to the overheating issue.

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I wouldn't worry about having a fix for that on delivery. I don't think it will be possible to overheat the center clutch outside of a hard track day session at high ambient. Maybe I'll find out in June with the freebie track day.

I have to laugh at 'constant slip' though. I flogged the car a couple times keeping an eye out for any ill behavior attributable to open diffs as I do not have performance pack. Snow tires, the twistiest backroads I've got all covered in grit and salt. Perfect conditions for getting it to push and all it did was blow my socks off. It's difficult to imagine better cornering behavior. Last resort was to go in too hot and I couldn't get there, was way too fast for comfort. Point being, it takes quite a lot to get this thing to slip even with open diffs. Exceeding its limits is way out of reach for me on public roads.
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For giggles, I reached out to one of the local dealers about ordering a GRC. Their response: No. They already have 40+ people on a waiting list. Looks like I need to go out of state if I want one.
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For giggles, I reached out to one of the local dealers about ordering a GRC. Their response: No. They already have 40+ people on a waiting list. Looks like I need to go out of state if I want one.
I just did the same and got the same response.

Hoping Toyota increases production accordingly and we can drop these wait lists at some point.
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Hoping Toyota increases production accordingly and we can drop these wait lists at some point.
Agreed. Until then, bull***t like this be the norm:

https://denver.craigslist.org/ctd/d/...594752593.html
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Agreed. Until then, bull***t like this be the norm:

https://denver.craigslist.org/ctd/d/...594752593.html
Hopefully they end up getting hosed just like the guy on carsandbids.
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Hopefully they end up getting hosed just like the guy on carsandbids.
I would use google voice or whatever to call them repeatedly to get bent, alas I can't be bothered.
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Agreed. Until then, bull***t like this be the norm:

https://denver.craigslist.org/ctd/d/...594752593.html
I'm surprised that's not Urban Motors trying to do that. That is exactly how I'd spec one though.
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Hopefully they end up getting hosed just like the guy on carsandbids.
I hope so. An angel gets its wings every time a flipper gets bent on a deal.

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I'm surprised that's not Urban Motors trying to do that. That is exactly how I'd spec one though.
Totally. They have great inventory, but their prices are stupid high.
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