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Old 05-03-2017, 01:15 PM   #29201
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640 CCA @ 0F
That's better. It's also a typical Johnson controls hit or miss battery. People hate exide but I hear about a lot fewer issues with those than JCI. I don't know of any other brand that leaks so much either.

That's what warranties are for. Hit or miss crap.
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Old 05-03-2017, 02:27 PM   #29202
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That's better. It's also a typical Johnson controls hit or miss battery. People hate exide but I hear about a lot fewer issues with those than JCI. I don't know of any other brand that leaks so much either.

That's what warranties are for. Hit or miss crap.
been going 4 years strong on this rebadged as a Sears Diehard Platinum

850CCA @ 0F

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Old 05-03-2017, 02:28 PM   #29203
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Better last 4 years being $300 and weighing 50 lbs.
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Old 05-03-2017, 03:16 PM   #29204
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Better last 4 years being $300 and weighing 50 lbs.
Seriously, that ain't cheap.
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Old 05-03-2017, 03:19 PM   #29205
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I don't know of any other brand that leaks so much either.
No leakage or corrosion on two of my vehicles.

I'd bet far more batteries die because of abuse than manufacturing or design defects. It's good to be covered in either case.
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Old 05-03-2017, 08:59 PM   #29206
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Managed to epoxy the piece the was bent in, fairly happy with the result. Could have been a little cleaner but better than a hole!
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Old 05-03-2017, 10:23 PM   #29207
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Better last 4 years being $300 and weighing 50 lbs.
because the extra 15 lbs really hurts something....

and I think i paid about 220 on sale.
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Old 05-03-2017, 10:25 PM   #29208
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It wouldn't matter if it was in the back, but adding a single pound to the front of the car, especially over/in front of the front wheels is just making the car that much more unbalanced.
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Old 05-04-2017, 11:30 PM   #29209
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It wouldn't matter if it was in the back, but adding a single pound to the front of the car, especially over/in front of the front wheels is just making the car that much more unbalanced.
well i added about 70lbs of MLV in the doors and back, so is that better?
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Old 05-05-2017, 12:07 AM   #29210
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It wouldn't matter if it was in the back, but adding a single pound to the front of the car, especially over/in front of the front wheels is just making the car that much more unbalanced.
Having a 5MT, his car is less front-heavy than yours. I think he'll be just fine.
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Old 05-05-2017, 05:34 AM   #29211
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CVT weighs maybe a few pounds more... think about it. It's 2 drums and a belt vs an entire set of gears.
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Old 05-05-2017, 05:57 AM   #29212
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Fortunately, I don't have to think about it thanks to the service manual.

CVT is 66lbs heavier in total, but it's actually lighter in the rear than the 5MT.

Front/Rear distribution:

CVT: 59.6 / 40.4
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Old 05-05-2017, 06:43 AM   #29213
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Fortunately, I don't have to think about it thanks to the service manual.

CVT is 66lbs heavier in total, but it's actually lighter in the rear than the 5MT.

Front/Rear distribution:

CVT: 59.6 / 40.4
5MT: 58.3 / 41.7
Must be mostly fluid weight. I can't imagine the cvt weighing that much more unless it's also armored to be used on military mine sweepers. It's just not that big. Have you seen that video of the see-through lineartronic cvt? Not that big.
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Old 05-05-2017, 01:08 PM   #29214
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Must be mostly fluid weight. I can't imagine the cvt weighing that much more unless it's also armored to be used on military mine sweepers. It's just not that big. Have you seen that video of the see-through lineartronic cvt? Not that big.
There's also the torque converter, and the clutch pack for the center diff that's not actually a diff, so that could account for some of it.
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Old 05-05-2017, 01:18 PM   #29215
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There's also the torque converter, and the clutch pack for the center diff that's not actually a diff, so that could account for some of it.
Yes I was ignoring those because the manual has a clutch and also a center differential sooo
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Old 05-05-2017, 02:13 PM   #29216
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Yes I was ignoring those because the manual has a clutch and also a center differential sooo
Yeah, clutches are very light though. Not sure about the center diff, but my assumption is the automated assembly for the clutch pack is probably heavier than a viscous center diff, by assumption. Who knows where the weight really comes from, the large conical gear pair?
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Old 05-05-2017, 03:27 PM   #29217
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Sooooo... If I wanted to get coilovers some day, but couldn't find an option I like that didn't drop the car a ton, would I be able to use those HDPE spacers on top of the coilovers to lead to minimal drop/rise?
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Old 05-05-2017, 03:31 PM   #29218
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Sooooo... If I wanted to get coilovers some day, but couldn't find an option I like that didn't drop the car a ton, would I be able to use those HDPE spacers on top of the coilovers to lead to minimal drop/rise?
I've been wondering the exact same thing.
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Old 05-05-2017, 05:50 PM   #29219
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Really? Seems like 99.999999% of people either want their car raised or dropped. I don't want a raise because that would turn it into crosstrek-like handling, and I don't want a drop because steep hills, potholes, etc.
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Old 05-06-2017, 03:33 PM   #29220
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Oh and keen, I feel the need to mention that, while the amp is only rated at 50w/channel at a minimum @ 4 ohms, it was rated well over 300w on its birth sheet. All R-F amps come with one. IIRC it was 350+ which would make it nearly 60w at least. Not that it really matters. I just needed to correct that.
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Old 05-06-2017, 04:53 PM   #29221
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Sooooo... If I wanted to get coilovers some day, but couldn't find an option I like that didn't drop the car a ton, would I be able to use those HDPE spacers on top of the coilovers to lead to minimal drop/rise?
Yes, depending on the coilover. AFAIK, most coilovers give a 0.5"~1" drop from stock height, even at the highest configuration. So in theory, getting a spacer on the tophat will allow you to remain at stock height, even with coilovers.
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Old 05-06-2017, 05:03 PM   #29222
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I've been absent from these forums for quite some time, but I thought it was time to lurk about and chime in now that I've had my 2012 for just about 5 years.

Still pretty low mileage at just under 45k Miles.
All is running great!

Replaced the OEM tires with some Pirelli Cinturato P7 All Season Plus tires a few months ago as well as the OEM battery. Since the Free Oil Changes have ended I have done my own as well as replaced the Diff. Fluid front and rear.

Thanks To all who have shared I continue to gain a wealth of information and tips from this site.
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Old 05-06-2017, 05:27 PM   #29223
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Yes, depending on the coilover. AFAIK, most coilovers give a 0.5"~1" drop from stock height, even at the highest configuration. So in theory, getting a spacer on the tophat will allow you to remain at stock height, even with coilovers.
I might try that. Although I'd like someone to take me for a drive in a WRX or similar with coilovers first. I've been in stock suspension ones, so I could definitely check out the difference without having to ride in another one with stock parts.

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I've been absent from these forums for quite some time, but I thought it was time to lurk about and chime in now that I've had my 2012 for just about 5 years.

Still pretty low mileage at just under 45k Miles.
All is running great!

Replaced the OEM tires with some Pirelli Cinturato P7 All Season Plus tires a few months ago as well as the OEM battery. Since the Free Oil Changes have ended I have done my own as well as replaced the Diff. Fluid front and rear.

Thanks To all who have shared I continue to gain a wealth of information and tips from this site.
DAMMIT I thought I had lowest miles. Just over 53k right now I think. Maybe 54 by now.
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Old 05-06-2017, 05:35 PM   #29224
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I might try that. Although I'd like someone to take me for a drive in a WRX or similar with coilovers first. I've been in stock suspension ones, so I could definitely check out the difference without having to ride in another one with stock parts.
Honestly, with coilovers you're just paying for adjustability in dampening, and height. Struts can do the same, but not as precise.. IE, My Koni yellows have dampening, but it's just a knob that turns with no indication, and height just depends on the spring. Where as, my buddies Ohlin's, 34 way adjustability for dampening + height adjustments.

Sounds like you just want a stiffer/sportier ride? If I were you just get some RCE Yellows... Well... That's what i'm planning to get soon.
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Old 05-06-2017, 05:37 PM   #29225
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DAMMIT I thought I had lowest miles. Just over 53k right now I think. Maybe 54 by now.
I'm at 40k with 2.0i.

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