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Old 06-15-2011, 12:07 PM   #51
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i picked up a primus two burner that uses cylinder fuel. Havent used it yet though
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Any experience with Tarp-tent tents? They seem to be good quality and extremely lightweight. I almost bought one of those instead.

I don't plan on doing any hardcore backpacking in bad weather so I think the T2 will suite me fine, hopefully.
I have a couple of them, a Rainshadow 2 and Scarp 2. I like the Scarp better but it comes with a slight weight penalty when compared to other two person TT models. It is still pretty light for a two person, double-wall backpacking tent. I recommend the crossing pole option if expecting high winds.

I do not recommend the Rainshadow if expecting bad weather/heavy downpours. The long, unsupported "roof" allows water pooling (unless you want to get out every few minutes and re-taunt the pitch lines) near the foot area and leaks through despite my best sil-net sealing.
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Old 06-15-2011, 12:19 PM   #53
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Something I did use during the recent trip was our new Bushbuddy wood stove (http://www.bushbuddy.ca).
Nice.

I recently picked up a similar stove, Calder Ti-Tri, and really like it versatility.

http://www.traildesigns.com/stoves/caldera-ti-tri
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Old 06-15-2011, 12:26 PM   #54
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I have a couple of them, a Rainshadow 2 and Scarp 2. I like the Scarp better but it comes with a slight weight penalty when compared to other two person TT models. It is still pretty light for a two person, double-wall backpacking tent. I recommend the crossing pole option if expecting high winds.

I do not recommend the Rainshadow if expecting bad weather/heavy downpours. The long, unsupported "roof" allows water pooling (unless you want to get out every few minutes and re-taunt the pitch lines) near the foot area and leaks through despite my best sil-net sealing.
Thank you! If, for whatever reason, this T2 doesn't work out for me, I'm getting one of the Tarp-tents, probably the Scarp.

For stoves, I'm using the Snow Peak Giga Power. Haven't used it much, just made oatmeal a couple times last summer. I'll be using it much more this summer.
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Old 06-15-2011, 12:38 PM   #55
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I've had the same Snow Peak stove for many years. It has been quite dependable.
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Old 06-15-2011, 01:31 PM   #56
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A few years ago, my wife stated she was tired of crawling in and out of a tent. She said she wanted a tent she could walk into and stand up inside of. She also said she wanted some sort of air mattress to sleep on. Instead of asking for a divorce, I caved and indulged her crazy desires, as incomprehensively extravagant as they were to me at the time. Welcome to the pussification of hikeeba.

Air mattress- We got this: http://www.coleman.com/coleman/colem...d=10079&brand= plus a pump powered by 4 D-size batteries from a Sports Authority store. The mattress has proven comfortable, and the pump has worked well. The two pieces did not cost more than $50 back in the day.

Tent- I wanted a quality shelter that would last. Thanks in part to an REI 20% off coupon, we got an REI Base Camp 6. It's a good tent; decent construction, sturdy design. I like the tent, but setting it up isn't on my Hot 100 Favorite Things To Do list. Long poles are long. Anyhoo, we run two footprints with this tent - one under the tent floor, and one inside on the tent floor - so we can wear our cleanish shoes/boots a few steps inside before sitting in the Barcalounger and taking them off.

Stove- We got a hand-me-down Coleman white gas dual burner stove from my aunt. It has been a reliable performer. At one time, we only cooked over the campfire or on one of my little backpacking stoves. Now we fire up the Coleman, one of my little backpacking stoves, and cook over the campfire. We eat way better and enjoy way more hot food when we car camp than when we're at home.

Sleeping bags- I still whatever sleeping bag of mine is appropriate for conditions, but the wifey has traded her higher-tech bags for a fleece-lined, fabric-shelled, thick, heavy, rectangular-whatever bag that she found at Target. She's been happy with warm in it, so I'm happy.

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We now have a Camp Kitchen Tote - a big Rubbermaid tote that contains the Coleman dual burner stove, assorted pots, pans, utensils, mugs, collapsible dish washing basin, collapsible water carriers, and all sorts of other 'kitcheny' stuff including a charming red and white plastic table cloth.

Way, way back when I was in college I purchased a Peak 1 Dual Fuel backpacking lantern. It is just like a regular Coleman white gas lantern, but half the size, if not smaller. Even though it was marketetd as a 'backpacking' lantern, anyone in their right mind wouldn't take it on a backpacking trip. For car camping, it takes up little space int he kitchen tote, and does a good job illuminating a campsite. We don't use it much because it is so bright.
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Old 06-15-2011, 01:33 PM   #57
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I am little over two weeks out from 9 day annual camping trip in Idaho/Montana's Bitterroot Wilderness.

Last year we saw torrential downpour for 7 of the 9 days, and really put our equipment through some hell.

That said, I always bring a tarp and/or plastic sheeting for the top of my tent for these trips. "weather proofing" just cant stand up to multiple days, even on the more expensive units.

Maybe we should rename this thread to camping equipment and tips thread...

Tips: Bring your 18v power tools, specifically your drill/flashlight/reciprocating saw. I have brought mine the last two years and have really enjoyed the convenience of being able to put together camp furniture, or putting up a screw for a hanger for a clothes line or something along those lines.

The saw is nice to cut away a branch quickly.

The flashlight will most likely last you through your trip. I read for about 30-60 mins every night in addition to regular use and only killed one of my two batteries.

We also bring some scrap 2x4s and plywood and make extra tables/flat surfaces.


Oh, and i cant speak highly enough about coleman's xtreme coolers. I have had ice last 5-6 days easily with proper placement in the shade, and the use of solar blankets both inside and outside the cooler.
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Old 06-15-2011, 01:51 PM   #58
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For stoves, I'm using the Snow Peak Giga Power. Haven't used it much, just made oatmeal a couple times last summer. I'll be using it much more this summer.
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I've had the same Snow Peak stove for many years. It has been quite dependable.
I have the Snow Peak Lite Max. The stove itself weighs in at 1.9 oz w/o a fuel canister. It's a great stove to use during the warm months. And I love that it's so lightweight.

Once the snow hits the ground, I go back to my tried-and-true MSR Whisperlite white gas stove. Heavy by today's standards, but it's a workhorse when it comes to melting snow. Only minus I'd say is that it doesn't really simmer, it's either burning on high or it's off. I got that stove in 1996 so it's 15 years old now without ever having to rebuild it.
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Old 06-15-2011, 02:04 PM   #59
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Only minus I'd say is that it doesn't really simmer, it's either burning on high or it's off. I got that stove in 1996 so it's 15 years old now without ever having to rebuild it.
I have one of those camp stoves as well, it has to be 30 years old. Has two settings, off and nuclear.
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Old 06-15-2011, 02:04 PM   #60
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Pontiac Aztek RULES!

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Old 06-15-2011, 02:17 PM   #61
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I'll take one of these instead.


Owned by a couple from New Zealand. I spotted them in Arizona.
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Old 06-15-2011, 02:17 PM   #62
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Army tents > *

Sleeps 8 on bunkbed style cots with a kitchen/dining area.




Here you can get a better feel for the size. The smaller tent keeps all our gear dry.


Like the motorhome garage that keeps the snow/rain off the tent? We stay a week in it in the Upper Peninsula for deer season. Gets so toasty inside I can wear shorts and a t-shirt with a foot of snow outside.
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Old 06-15-2011, 03:29 PM   #63
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To the other end of the spectrum, I did some great backpacking trips last year with my goal of carrying no more than 35 pounds including food and water.

These were my favorite pieces of gear:

Therm-A-Rest Neo Air

VERY comfortable, packs small, lightweight and super warm due to its inner aluminized mylar shield.



Jetboil

Boils 2 cups of water in 2 minutes. Everything packs in the cup. Light, easy to use, insulated. Pretty much perfect.



Steripen Journey

Converts any water to safe drinking water using ultraviolet light. Does a one liter Nalgene bottle in 90 seconds. Super light, easy to use. Only drawback is it likes batteries.



Kelty Gunnison 2

Great 2-man tent. Good ventilation, vestibules on each side, easy to pitch, lightweight, cheap.



Leki Teton Super Makula Antishock

Light, easy to extend, strong locks, comfy grips. Saved my bacon on steep slopes many times.



A good shot from my Glacier hike (Two Medicine Area):


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Old 06-15-2011, 03:37 PM   #64
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?
so let me rephrase. Is there something I can apply to the 'fabric' top of the tent to water proof it?

The tarp is an option I guess. Maybe I'll just do that.
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Old 06-15-2011, 03:44 PM   #65
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Sonic, that's beautiful man! I have a lot of love for Michigan except for it's extreme flatness! haha I wish I could be in the mountains.
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so let me rephrase. Is there something I can apply to the 'fabric' top of the tent to water proof it?

The tarp is an option I guess. Maybe I'll just do that.
You can go to an outdoor store and pick up a spray bottle of Scotchguard or choose from one of the many products from Nikwax to add water repellency and some claim waterproofness to certain materials.

I have used some Nikwax products to restore waterproofness to my Gore-tex and to similar clothing. And it works well.
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Scotchguard last like an hour. Dont bother.
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Sonic, that's beautiful man! I have a lot of love for Michigan except for it's extreme flatness! haha I wish I could be in the mountains.
Montana put the zap on my head. I've never seen any place like it.
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Montana put the zap on my head. I've never seen any place like it.

Montana/Idaho are beautiful areas. I look forward to this trip every year, probably more then anything else.
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Old 06-16-2011, 03:31 PM   #70
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I have a couple of them, a Rainshadow 2 and Scarp 2. I like the Scarp better but it comes with a slight weight penalty when compared to other two person TT models. It is still pretty light for a two person, double-wall backpacking tent. I recommend the crossing pole option if expecting high winds.

I do not recommend the Rainshadow if expecting bad weather/heavy downpours. The long, unsupported "roof" allows water pooling (unless you want to get out every few minutes and re-taunt the pitch lines) near the foot area and leaks through despite my best sil-net sealing.
I backpack all the time, well moreso in the summer than winter but I am acquiring gear for winter touring as well.

I have the Tarptent Contrail and it's okay for mild weather but when things get ugly it sucks. Sure is light though. Problem with any sil-nylon tent is that as soon as it gets wet the fabric relaxes and you lose any tautness to the pitch. Nothing like getting out of your tent in a rainstorm to tighten up the draw cords... Water pools on the top of it down near your feet. Wish I'd gone with the Moment instead. http://www.tarptent.com/moment.html It's slightly heavier but a much better design.

Also have a quite old Sierra Designs Clip Flashlight. Not sure if they make this model any more, I've had it for close to 20 years now and it's still going strong. It has survived winds that literally flattened it out on top of me, drenching rain and light snow. It's very snug inside for 2 people, you can't even sit up inside it but weighs only about 3.5 lbs.

For car camping I just take a $35 Coleman tent. Roomy and cheap, works okay in the rain. Hell, I'm car camping. If the weather turns to absolute **** I pack everything up and go home.

Just bought a Big Agnes "Hager House" 3-person tent. A bit on the heavy side at just a hair under 6 lbs but it's actually big enough to get 3 adults inside it, though it would be cramped quarters. Most of the time it'll be me, another person and my dog and it's plenty spacious for that. One person carrying poles + stakes, one person carrying the fly and the dog can carry the tent body and it's less than 2lbs. each. It's also quite sturdy and should be fine for 3-4 season backpacking. It can also be pitched with just the poles and fly for a lightweight summer single-wall shelter. I'll probably sew some mosquito netting around the bottom of the fly to make it bug proof.

Down sleeping bags are the way to go if you can keep them dry. I have a Mtn. Hardwear +20 down bag with their water-resistant breathable shell for winter use. It's kept me warm down into the single digits but I was wearing warm clothes inside it also. It's a bit on the heavy side for a down bag at about 2.5 lbs. so I acquired a Feathered Friends +30 "Osprey" bag that weighs 1.5 lbs. for summer use. Great bag, Feathered Friends makes really high quality stuff.

For stoves I've had the MSR Whisperlight which I bought back in the day when it was the best thing around, then I upgraded to a Coleman Peak 1 which is pretty much the same thing but with a dual valve assembly that allows complete control of the flame then a few years ago I went to a Snowpeak Gigapower canister stove. Personally I think the Jetboil is overrated. If I was going to buy a heavy stove that can only boil water I'd go with the MSR Reactor instead. The Reactor has been shown to be superior to the Jetboil in just about every circumstance. Still, I prefer my Snowpeak because it's smaller, lighter, cheaper, and you can actually cook over it with a frying pan.

Backcountry quesadillas and margaritas, anyone?



Or perhaps some fried trout?

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Or perhaps some fried trout?

Ill see your trout, and raise you mine:










I love me some brook trout.
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Ill see your trout, and raise you mine:

..snip pictures of delicious fried fish...

I love me some brook trout.
Then why are you eating Cutthroats?
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Then why are you eating Cutthroats?

****, youre right... there might be some brookies in there too. IDing fish has never been my strong suit. Catching and eating them however... Its ridiculously easy in the wilderness. You can watch 4-5 bigger fish chase your bait.

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Keep in mind, my pics are from a 6000 ft lake that doesn't even have an official trail to it, 3000 ft above and 8 miles away from the nearest car. Anything you have there is carried on your back as horses can't make it due to having to cross some cliff bands. Would have loved to have had a proper stove there.

Next time you go fishing let me know, those pics are making me hungry!
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I'll take one of these instead.


Owned by a couple from New Zealand. I spotted them in Arizona.
I saw something similar while car camping in Juniper Springs, FL. It was a Toyota p/u with a topper and a extendable panel (to the side), from the roof of the topper, where you could pitch a small two person tent. I thought is was the awesomest thing ever. Haven't seen another one since (and I car camp a lot).
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