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10-07-2012, 12:37 PM | #2876 |
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That's great to know since I too think the picture and color looks sharper.
**** I'm talking like 2005 here, 60hz.
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10-07-2012, 12:46 PM | #2877 | ||
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id take a 2005 60hz 1080p plasma over a 2012 240hz 1080p LED every day of the week. |
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10-07-2012, 12:46 PM | #2878 |
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10-07-2012, 01:42 PM | #2879 | |
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Come back when you actually understand that plasma is an inherently different technology than LCD and you can't compare those numbers. You do realize the 480 or 600Mhz ratings you'd see on plasmas has no correlation to the "refresh" rate numbers quoted on LCD's right? Probably not. |
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10-07-2012, 01:47 PM | #2880 |
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10-07-2012, 01:55 PM | #2881 |
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I've complained about the 30 pin connector since the ipod days. First mistake by apple is to not use a USB connection to the ipod/iphone. Mistake number two is auto manufacturers putting a 30 pin connector in the car. If the car makers put a USB port in the console then this would be a non issue. It would be compatible with all devices. but they chose to make it compatible with only apple products. Now its not even compatible with some apple products.
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10-07-2012, 01:55 PM | #2882 |
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10-07-2012, 02:00 PM | #2883 | |
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Spinning a short post with marketing terms into me putting subfield drive and refresh rate in the same basket? Color me unimpressed. Was keeping it simple for the common folks. Refresh rates are somewhat bogus anyways.last time I was researching tv's the basis should have been on pixel response time. In that regard ... Plasma technology is still king, no? It was in 2009 anyways... |
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10-07-2012, 02:53 PM | #2884 | |
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Which I'm probably just going to do. |
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10-07-2012, 03:08 PM | #2885 | |
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10-07-2012, 03:29 PM | #2886 |
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Hmm, are there any chinese knockoff lightning cables yet?
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10-07-2012, 03:57 PM | #2887 |
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Have you missed all the news stories? The chip used inside the adapter to route the signals to the correct pins is rather complex. Apple is just now preparing to even approve 3rd party construction for licensed devices. No one has seen any of the data on how the chip exactly works.
Basically, due to the complexity of the chip, no one thinks it's gonna be easy to reverse-engineer. And even if it were, the cost of production of that component is expected to be so high that they don't think Apple's profit margin is inflated on that piece hardly at all. In other words, they think it really does cost almost that much to make. So...not a lot of reason for 3rd party companies to work on knock-offs if there isn't a lot of profit to be made. |
10-07-2012, 04:12 PM | #2888 | |
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10-07-2012, 04:38 PM | #2889 | |
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10-07-2012, 04:40 PM | #2890 | ||
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I am sure they will eventually if they haven't already (Belkin, Kensington, Griffin). Getting people to buy into Apple products by way of accessory lock-in has got to be worth more than any money they would make on a mark up. Last edited by BlackBeastie; 10-07-2012 at 04:48 PM. |
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10-07-2012, 04:45 PM | #2891 |
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Apple said they will be sole producer of the lightning accessories until 2013, then they would look into approving third party manufacturers. Apple said they were planning on profiting from the connector change. A $100 million profit doesn't sound so bad.
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10-07-2012, 04:52 PM | #2892 | ||
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10-07-2012, 05:01 PM | #2893 | |
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10-07-2012, 05:02 PM | #2894 |
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I paid $19 for a second Apple brand cord. I don't feel terribly ripped off. It's the first cord I've had to buy in probably a decade. One for my nightstand and one for work/car/travel.
If I had bought a micro-USB phone, I'd still have had to buy a cord (probably $1.99 from China, but still). I surprisingly enough, don't own a lot of micro-USB devices and therefore don't have a ton of cords laying in wait. I have 30 pin connectors still in my drawer from the early-ish iPod days. Side note: Either my old phone was slow, or the new cord is somehow faster. My phones transfer data at wildly different speeds, which surprised me. |
10-07-2012, 05:23 PM | #2895 |
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I'm not sure if serious? Have you ever done any work in manufacturing? Cause even if the chip costs like $3, that's a huge significant cost, because now, you also need to integrate it into the device. Manufacturing costs to implement a processor into a plug like that is many times what it costs to produce the older style "dumb" cables.
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10-07-2012, 05:25 PM | #2896 |
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10-07-2012, 06:03 PM | #2897 | |
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10-07-2012, 06:11 PM | #2898 |
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That is what I was saying. I'm not talking just parts. But all-in manufacturing. Even for a knock-off. In tooling, design and components? Yes, it doesn't appear that there's much of a margin. If Apple sells it for $30, they need to sell theirs for $20 or less to get people to buy it. Now Apple may be making $10 a piece on each one. The knock-off could cut quality and drop that price too, but a dramatic part of the price is hard coded to that processor. Since they can't get that processor(it's Apple's chip, the fabs won't be selling it without Apple's authorization), they'd have to reverse engineer their own. That's an enormous amount of capital to put into something like this. Normal knock-off cables aren't anywhere near this level of sophistication. Think of powered dual-link DVI adapters. Knock-off versions hardly ever work right, because they're way more complex than just a regular single link DVI adapter.
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10-07-2012, 06:14 PM | #2899 |
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