Welcome to the North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club Thursday March 28, 2024
Home Forums Images WikiNASIOC Products Store Modifications Upgrade Garage
NASIOC
Go Back   NASIOC > NASIOC General > Member's Car Gallery

Welcome to NASIOC - The world's largest online community for Subaru enthusiasts!
Welcome to the NASIOC.com Subaru forum.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, free of charge, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.







* As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. 
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads. 
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-07-2013, 11:55 PM   #4376
climbhigh09
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 254163
Join Date: Aug 2010
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Location: MD
Vehicle:
2011 WRX 20GXTR
Black

Default

I work with harsh environment designs all the time and have seen nylon lock nuts fail fairly often. The interior of the car isn't too bad- no solar or solvents, but the temp range is fairly broad and cycles daily. So, no nylon locks on my scoobs if I can avoid it, loc-tite or a different mechanical stop-gap.

You should be able to google the clutch throw adjustment pretty easily. I know I saw it in the tech site, but it doesn't look like I saved that page.

Nice save with the fam in tow.
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
climbhigh09 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
Old 01-08-2013, 12:03 AM   #4377
xluben
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 261612
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Vehicle:
2002 WRX - 750WHP
9.5s @ 150mph

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by climbhigh09 View Post
I work with harsh environment designs all the time and have seen nylon lock nuts fail fairly often. The interior of the car isn't too bad- no solar or solvents, but the temp range is fairly broad and cycles daily. So, no nylon locks on my scoobs if I can avoid it, loc-tite or a different mechanical stop-gap.

You should be able to google the clutch throw adjustment pretty easily. I know I saw it in the tech site, but it doesn't look like I saved that page.

Nice save with the fam in tow.
Thanks for the input. The interior of the car isn't a very harsh environment, so I'm not too worried about it. The temp inside the car can dip a bit below freezing in the winter, and may get up to 100F or a little higher in the summer, but during operation the driver foot area is going to be very well controlled in the 70F range. Overall I don't think that is too extreme.

The only real stress it will see is vibration and the nylon should do fine against that. Over time I suppose it could dry out, harden, and crack, but I think that is a long ways off. I'll definitely keep an eye on it, and loctite it in place if need be. I adjusted the linkage on the rod, but I didn't use any guide. I just did what seemed right.

I'll have an update on the work I did tonight in a few minute here...
xluben is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2013, 12:35 AM   #4378
xluben
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 261612
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Vehicle:
2002 WRX - 750WHP
9.5s @ 150mph

Default

Tonight I fixed up the clutch linkage for good (I hope). First, I went out and bought a new shoulder bolt that was the correct length (and a new nylon locking nut).



It is a 1/2" long shoulder with a 5/16" shoulder diameter and the size is perfect for this application. It actually works better than the OEM rod. The OEM rod is 3/4" long and about 5/16" OD (actually seems a hair smaller). The cotter pin reduces the working length of the rod to 5/8". This results in about 1/8" of side-to-side slop in the linkage.



And after looking at the OEM design a little more, I have determined that the cotter pin holds the rod in place, and the plastic piece (shown in the photo above) acts as a secondary attachment method in case the cotter pin fails. I have a feeling that my cotter pin broke long ago, and this little piece of plastic has been holding it together since then.


^(I just realized I put the wrench and allen key on the wrong sides in this photo. Oops)

I found that the width of the linkage in the car (non removable) is basically identical to the open end of the 7/16" wrench I was using. I used a table vice and this wrench to bend the U bracket back into the correct shape/width and straighten it out.

As seen in the pictures from yesterday it used to be much, much wider than it needed to be, and it was also quite crooked (even after straightening it a bit). Before I straightened it at all (when it failed) it had a severe bend (close to 45 degrees) and was spread apart even wider than yesterday's photos.



The 1/2" length of the new shoulder bolt is basically perfect. The nut tightens down onto the shoulder of the bolt without actually putting any tension on the linkage, so there is zero binding. But there is very minimal free space (much less than OEM), so much less side-to-side movement is possible.



Once I had it all straightened out the way I wanted I put it back in the car. I threaded the U joint on until the holes in the U joint and the hole in the linkage lined up if the clutch was fully released, and the MC rod was fully extended. This puts the clutch engagement point near the middle of the pedal travel. Much better than near the floor like it had been.



Getting the locking nut tightened down onto the back of the U bracket was quite a task. With very little room to work with I ended up using a 13mm crow's foot, 2" extension, universal swivel joint, 8" extension, and 3/8" drive ratchet all connected together. This did work and it should be locked in place now. Locking this down would be much easier to do with the MC removed from the car.



You can see that it is all very straight and there is barely any room for side to side motion. In the photos the nut is tightened down on to the shoulder of the bolt, but there is still a tiny bit of room on either side of the linkages, so that they don't bind at all.



This is how this linkage should have been connected from the factory. It has much less side-to-side movement possible and won't fail like the OEM cotter pin and plastic nub did. Subaru just wanted to save a few dollars and went with the cheaper, and easier to assemble method of connecting the linkage. I happened to look over and see that the brake uses the same connection...



The rod and cotter pin setup is identical to the clutch linkage. You can see the side-to-side slop that is possible here. I may want to preemptively replace this at some point. Right now it still looks fine. I honestly don't think it's likely to fail unless it is assembled incorrectly (as the clutch could have been since the dealer replaced the MC). I did notice that the U bracket on the brake appears to be hardened vs. the softer clutch U bracket, so it should be a lot less likely to bend.

Parts Used: 5/16" OD Shoulder Bolt with 1/2" Shoulder Length and Accompanying Nylon Locking Nut
xluben is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2013, 12:42 AM   #4379
FLEX'N WRX
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 163672
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Where the sidewalk ends...
Vehicle:
GV
Same color as veneers

Default

Glad that annoyance was dealt with. Definitely improved linkage.
FLEX'N WRX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2013, 07:17 AM   #4380
climbhigh09
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 254163
Join Date: Aug 2010
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Location: MD
Vehicle:
2011 WRX 20GXTR
Black

Default

Actually, the temp in your car (even with your new tint and northern location) probably breaches 200 in the summer; hence all the dead dogs in cars. Still well within the nylon rating though. And no one gets hurt if that part fails (as you demonstrated already), so it's nbd. Just don't put one on your steering linkage too ;-)

Sure seems like the fella the replaced your master bent the hell out of that bracket to get it out and did a half a$$ job putting it back together. It's hard for someone who does that work everyday to be as dedicated to your car as you will be, assuming the skill is comparable between you and him. I can't even take my car in for an oil change anymore- too many minor mistakes like that just end up taking more of my time to correct than it's worth (spillage, overfills, stripped pan, etc.).
climbhigh09 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2013, 10:01 AM   #4381
xluben
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 261612
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Vehicle:
2002 WRX - 750WHP
9.5s @ 150mph

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FLEX'N WRX View Post
Glad that annoyance was dealt with. Definitely improved linkage.
I agree. It's better than before, and I got the adjustment much better too.

Quote:
Originally Posted by climbhigh09 View Post
Actually, the temp in your car (even with your new tint and northern location) probably breaches 200 in the summer; hence all the dead dogs in cars. Still well within the nylon rating though. And no one gets hurt if that part fails (as you demonstrated already), so it's nbd. Just don't put one on your steering linkage too ;-)

Sure seems like the fella the replaced your master bent the hell out of that bracket to get it out and did a half a$$ job putting it back together. It's hard for someone who does that work everyday to be as dedicated to your car as you will be, assuming the skill is comparable between you and him. I can't even take my car in for an oil change anymore- too many minor mistakes like that just end up taking more of my time to correct than it's worth (spillage, overfills, stripped pan, etc.).
I usually crack my windows on the hot days if I park outside, so it is rarely unbearably hot in my car, but I suppose some high temps are possible. Unlikely it would be anything that would cause a failure of that locking bolt though.

I agree about having other people work on your car. I believe this was the first and last time that someone else did any work on my car. I cringe to think what goes on behind closed doors at any shop...
xluben is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2013, 10:26 PM   #4382
Jdub.csu
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 283784
Join Date: May 2011
Chapter/Region: RMIC
Location: Colorado
Vehicle:
2015 MUSTANG GT PP
GUARD

Default

We get a good laugh at the **** people do to their cars

Wonder how the **** they can't tell something is seriously wrong with their cars

deal with parts that are bad from the factory

Work on cars that are trash pits

Work on cars that if we leave a finger print on they get pissed. Sorry guys its a shop we aren't gonna do a full detail on a 39 dollar oil change

Techs that damage things get fired rather quickly at our shop
Jdub.csu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2013, 10:30 AM   #4383
xluben
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 261612
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Vehicle:
2002 WRX - 750WHP
9.5s @ 150mph

Default

Anyone have thoughts on the Harman Motive / AQ Motorsports exhaust? It looks really nice, but I don't see much info on it. Looks to be fairly similar to the Nameless. I might be interested in trying one of those two.

I hate how Nameless has crap for photos on their website. You have to try and sift through their Facebook page or through hundreds of forum posts to try and actually see photos of the different configuration options.

I really don't know why I want a new exhaust. I like the GReddy a lot. I'm just always curious to try something else...
xluben is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2013, 10:32 AM   #4384
J_Maher_WRX
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 290307
Join Date: Aug 2011
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by xluben View Post
Anyone have thoughts on the Harman Motive / AQ Motorsports exhaust? It looks really nice, but I don't see much info on it. Looks to be fairly similar to the Nameless. I might be interested in trying one of those two.

I hate how Nameless has crap for photos on their website. You have to try and sift through their Facebook page or through hundreds of forum posts to try and actually see photos of the different configuration options.

I really don't know why I want a new exhaust. I like the GReddy a lot. I'm just always curious to try something else...
Well I can say with first hand experience now that the Nameless hatch exhaust sounds awesome. My brother has a 12 hatch

He actually got the muffler delete, he only has the axleback as of now, but there is 0 drone and it sounds great.
J_Maher_WRX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2013, 10:35 AM   #4385
xluben
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 261612
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Vehicle:
2002 WRX - 750WHP
9.5s @ 150mph

Default

I think people have a different definition of drone/noise. There's no way I'd ever consider their muffler delete or even their 4" or 5" mufflers. I'm only considering the Magnaflow option which is supposedly very quiet.
xluben is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2013, 10:45 AM   #4386
J_Maher_WRX
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 290307
Join Date: Aug 2011
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by xluben View Post
I think people have a different definition of drone/noise. There's no way I'd ever consider their muffler delete or even their 4" or 5" mufflers. I'm only considering the Magnaflow option which is supposedly very quiet.
Oh for sure man. I actually considered his muffler delete to pretty quiet... Considering I have their catback with no mufflers and a catless downpipe

The magnaflow is supposedly super quiet, and I can honestly say that the quality of their items are second to none man. I can get my brother to take some pics of his when he gets a chance if you'd like. He got the 3.5" double walled staggered tips, and they protrude about 2" or so beyond the black part of the bumper. Looks sick
J_Maher_WRX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2013, 11:36 AM   #4387
xluben
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 261612
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Vehicle:
2002 WRX - 750WHP
9.5s @ 150mph

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by J_Maher_WRX View Post
Oh for sure man. I actually considered his muffler delete to pretty quiet... Considering I have their catback with no mufflers and a catless downpipe

The magnaflow is supposedly super quiet, and I can honestly say that the quality of their items are second to none man. I can get my brother to take some pics of his when he gets a chance if you'd like. He got the 3.5" double walled staggered tips, and they protrude about 2" or so beyond the black part of the bumper. Looks sick
I haven't actually heard the Nameless muffler delete, but I've heard the one with their small mufflers and it wasn't quiet. I've also heard no axle back at all, and with just a turn down pipe. Neither of those sounded good either.

I'm interested to see the 3.5" staggered, double wall tips. Those would be my preference. If you could point me to them, rather than post them in this thread, that would be great. These are the types of photos they should have on their site! And on-car to see fitment.

I absolutely do NOT want them to stick out 2" past the bumper! I don't like when they stick out at all honestly.
xluben is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2013, 01:57 PM   #4388
J_Maher_WRX
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 290307
Join Date: Aug 2011
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by xluben View Post
I haven't actually heard the Nameless muffler delete, but I've heard the one with their small mufflers and it wasn't quiet. I've also heard no axle back at all, and with just a turn down pipe. Neither of those sounded good either.

I'm interested to see the 3.5" staggered, double wall tips. Those would be my preference. If you could point me to them, rather than post them in this thread, that would be great. These are the types of photos they should have on their site! And on-car to see fitment.

I absolutely do NOT want them to stick out 2" past the bumper! I don't like when they stick out at all honestly.
Terribly sorry Ben, when I was describing the looks of his this morning, I was looking down at his car from the top floor of our house haha they do not stick out at all, they are flush with the valence hahaha ill get him to take some good pictures when we get a chance to clean our cars and we can post them here for you
J_Maher_WRX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2013, 02:59 PM   #4389
PearlRex11
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 284420
Join Date: Jun 2011
Chapter/Region: SWIC
Location: Lakewood, Ca
Vehicle:
2011 WRX Sedan
SWP

Default

My friend has the Harman one on his 11 hatch. he also has equal length headers, I think it sounds nice myself, no rasp and is not too loud for a daily driver IMO . I believe his name is Zzyzx on here, what info would you like.
PearlRex11 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2013, 03:00 PM   #4390
PearlRex11
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 284420
Join Date: Jun 2011
Chapter/Region: SWIC
Location: Lakewood, Ca
Vehicle:
2011 WRX Sedan
SWP

Default

For reference, I too am not a fan of the muffler delete. I'm guessing we have similar tastes in exhaust sound.
PearlRex11 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2013, 03:21 PM   #4391
xluben
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 261612
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Vehicle:
2002 WRX - 750WHP
9.5s @ 150mph

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by J_Maher_WRX View Post
Terribly sorry Ben, when I was describing the looks of his this morning, I was looking down at his car from the top floor of our house haha they do not stick out at all, they are flush with the valence hahaha ill get him to take some good pictures when we get a chance to clean our cars and we can post them here for you
That makes more sense. I thought Nameless was usually pretty flush. I'm just not a fan of them sticking out. It seems that most aftermarket ones do a little.

Quote:
Originally Posted by PearlRex11 View Post
My friend has the Harman one on his 11 hatch. he also has equal length headers, I think it sounds nice myself, no rasp and is not too loud for a daily driver IMO . I believe his name is Zzyzx on here, what info would you like.
I'm curious about fitment, build quality, and sound. How does it compare to others out there? I looks pretty nice, but I don't know much about fitment or sound. I put an AQ Motorsports (same as Harman Motive) downpipe on my brother's car and I thought it was really nice.

Quote:
Originally Posted by PearlRex11 View Post
For reference, I too am not a fan of the muffler delete. I'm guessing we have similar tastes in exhaust sound.
Yeah, I just don't think it sounds very good. It's loud, but not ridiculous, but the sound quality is just off to me.
xluben is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2013, 04:55 PM   #4392
PearlRex11
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 284420
Join Date: Jun 2011
Chapter/Region: SWIC
Location: Lakewood, Ca
Vehicle:
2011 WRX Sedan
SWP

Default

As far as fitment goes, I believe one if his sides sticks out more than the other but my q300 does that as well. My be able to adjust it though. I will get some info for you tomorrow when I see him. Try to snag you some pics also. He is happy with it though.
PearlRex11 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2013, 09:07 PM   #4393
SWP is Sexy
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 302389
Join Date: Nov 2011
Chapter/Region: TXIC
Location: Houston
Vehicle:
2011 WRX
I'm a stormtrooper pewpew

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by PearlRex11 View Post
As far as fitment goes, I believe one if his sides sticks out more than the other but my q300 does that as well. My be able to adjust it though. I will get some info for you tomorrow when I see him. Try to snag you some pics also. He is happy with it though.
I've seen that a couple times, even on OEM. Just play with the hangers until its even
SWP is Sexy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2013, 09:13 PM   #4394
PearlRex11
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 284420
Join Date: Jun 2011
Chapter/Region: SWIC
Location: Lakewood, Ca
Vehicle:
2011 WRX Sedan
SWP

Default

Yeah, that's what I did with mine. Might be able to get a sound clip tomorrow too, I don't think he will nor would I ask him to rev it at the meet, but I can get one at idle and driving off maybe. I'll see what I can do.
PearlRex11 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2013, 11:55 PM   #4395
xluben
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 261612
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Vehicle:
2002 WRX - 750WHP
9.5s @ 150mph

Default

I hate when the don't stick out evenly. That's one of the main reasons I'd rather not have them stick out at all. When it's flush you really can't tell if they're not perfectly even. Most exhausts you can fiddle with and get them pretty close, but some are worse than others.

Have him rev it up and bang off the rev limiter for a while! Everyone will think he's cool!
xluben is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2013, 11:59 PM   #4396
xluben
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 261612
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Vehicle:
2002 WRX - 750WHP
9.5s @ 150mph

Default

Preview of a new mod from tonight. More photos tomorrow.



xluben is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2013, 12:31 AM   #4397
thatsilverwrx
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 307725
Join Date: Jan 2012
Vehicle:
2012 WRX
Now 2015 WRX

Default

That's awesome. I can't wait for the detailed write up on that!
thatsilverwrx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2013, 12:32 AM   #4398
SuaveCougarBait
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 255092
Join Date: Aug 2010
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: Nebraska
Vehicle:
2007 WRX Limited
Garnet Red Peal (33j) e85

Default

^ I'm in this boat
SuaveCougarBait is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2013, 10:06 AM   #4399
xluben
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 261612
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Vehicle:
2002 WRX - 750WHP
9.5s @ 150mph

Default

Here's a link to the VG Shark Fin Antenna Install photos:

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2455581

xluben is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2013, 10:23 PM   #4400
xluben
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 261612
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Vehicle:
2002 WRX - 750WHP
9.5s @ 150mph

Default

I grabbed my camera after work a took a some shots before it got dark. These are what I came up with. From my normal (low) angles you can barely even see the shark fin from the front, so most of the shots are from the rear. I really like how it flows with the car. Definitely better than the OEM antenna (IMO).













Hard to believe this is the same car as the cell phone pics from earlier. It's amazing what a real camera/lens and a few hours of editing can do! I took exactly 100 shots and each of the shots above is a composite of 5-10 images (multiple polarizations).
xluben is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
xluben's Pictures and Review of the SPT Exhaust for the 2011 WRX 5 Door Hatch xluben Car Part Reviews 26 11-08-2012 06:55 PM
My first post and my first Subaru, a 2011 WRX 5 door in white. Decade240 Newbies & FAQs 25 06-20-2012 01:48 PM
2011 wrx 5 door hatch with Rota 17"x7.5 +48 5x100 wheels? BretCutler Tire & Wheel 4 01-14-2011 08:05 AM
2011 WRX 5 Door Ruz4life General Community 55 10-13-2010 11:37 PM
2011 WRX 5 Door Ruz4life General Community 10 10-04-2010 04:02 PM

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:09 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2024 Axivo Inc.
Copyright ©1999 - 2019, North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club, Inc.

As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.

When you click on links to various merchants on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission
Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network.