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Old 06-25-2021, 10:09 PM   #201
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Do you seriously not see the difference between this


and this?


The front end of the CivicX was basically flat and then swept back in a sporting way. On the Civic 11, if you drop a line from the headlight down to the ground, the profile would look like a backwards "B". That double hump front end is really dorky looking and it ruins what I think would be a nice looking design if they skipped it.
I drove a bug eye for 10 plus years, so I'm fine with it.

So it sticks out a tiny bit more. Still think its nitpicking, and odds are neither of us will buy one. Besides if it bugs yah find a good fiberglass man to pull it off, reshape and paint.
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Old 06-25-2021, 10:21 PM   #202
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OK, with the kit and in this color, it looks better. Honda/Acura always seems to make some amazing blues.

https://jalopnik.com/the-factory-kit...k-g-1847175516
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Old 06-26-2021, 01:49 AM   #203
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Dat look good.
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Old 06-26-2021, 02:22 PM   #204
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I do like that spoiler on the hatch. It seems to "square off" the rear nicely.
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Old 06-29-2021, 07:51 AM   #205
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I saw an all black Civic Sedan this morning (with black wheels). Much to my surprise, it not only looked good, but it also looked like a very large and long car.
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Old 06-29-2021, 09:39 AM   #206
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I saw an all black Civic Sedan this morning (with black wheels). Much to my surprise, it not only looked good, but it also looked like a very large and long car.
I saw a bunch of the Honda lot yesterday. The overbite is ugly in person but itís not an ugly car.

You shouldnít have been surprised how big it is. The civicX sedan was already big. This is even bigger.
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Old 07-07-2021, 01:20 AM   #207
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Old 07-27-2021, 09:43 AM   #208
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Default The 11th-Gen Honda Civic Turbo Is Hiding a Lot of Extra Power, and Hondata Found It

The 11th-Gen Honda Civic Turbo Is Hiding a Lot of Extra Power, and Hondata Found It

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2022...e-ecu-reflash/
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Old 09-21-2021, 06:53 AM   #209
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It's more expensive than the sedan

Pricing is out for the 2022 Honda Civic Hatchback, and as expected, itís more expensive than the sedan. Your entry-level model is the LX, which is combined with the 2.0-liter four-cylinder and a CVT. It starts at $23,915, including the destination charge. Thatís $1,220 more than the LX sedan.

For your troubles, the Hatchback features a ďsportier driving characterĒ than the sedan, much more utility in the cargo area, and especially slick exterior styling. For those who like to row your own, you can also spec it with a six-speed manual transmission. Three-pedal enthusiasts will be looking at a $25,115 starting price for the Sport trim. And in case you wanted an automatic Sport, itís the exact same price as the manual at $25,115.

All of the above comes with the 2.0-liter four-cylinder, but if you want the meatier 1.5-liter turbocharged four-cylinder, youíll need to step up to an EX-L. This trim is only available with the CVT, and it starts at $27,615. Thankfully, Honda offers a manual option with the turbo engine, which is available with the fully-loaded Sport Touring. This top-of-the-line model will run you $30,415, and just like the 2.0-liter Sport trims, the CVT-equipped Sport Touring is the same MSRP as the manual.

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The manual-equipped Sport Touring model will be the driverís choice of Civics until the 11th-gen Si and Type R variants make their eventual launches. Its most obvious competition is the Mazda3 Hatchback, which is also available with a six-speed manual and exclusively paired to the modelís top trim. Before options, the Mazda will run you $28,995, making the Civic the more expensive choice. Of course, you can add options to the Mazda and get it much nearer to the Civicís final price.

In addition to the pricing information revealed today, Honda says the Hatchback is going on sale Ö starting today. If youíre lucky, you might see some on your dealer lots soon. Weíll be driving this version of Civic soon, too, so look out for first drive impressions next month.
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Old 09-21-2021, 09:49 AM   #210
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so mazda and honda offer a manual in the top trim.

Subaru... you hear that... top trim gets a manual.
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Mazda and Honda don't define performance in the sedan segment.
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Mazda and Honda don't define performance in the sedan segment.
Subaru defines performance sedans in the plastic CUV cladding segment. I saw a new Civic today. The front end still looks weird, but it's not a terrible looking car. I still like the 10th gen, which I should have bought, better.
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Subaru defines performance sedans in the plastic CUV cladding segment. I saw a new Civic today. The front end still looks weird, but it's not a terrible looking car. I still like the 10th gen, which I should have bought, better.
It's weird because it's actually a good looking car but the receding forehead profile over the front grille looks so strange. I just don't understand why they didn't smooth that out better.
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Old 09-22-2021, 11:28 AM   #214
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It's weird because it's actually a good looking car but the receding forehead profile over the front grille looks so strange. I just don't understand why they didn't smooth that out better.
I agree. It's like they had an attractive design as the starting point and then added the funky/ugly front end to make it distinctive. It's not far off being nice looking.
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Old 09-22-2021, 01:07 PM   #215
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It's weird because it's actually a good looking car but the receding forehead profile over the front grille looks so strange. I just don't understand why they didn't smooth that out better.
Or just share the hatchback's front design.
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Old 09-22-2021, 07:22 PM   #216
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Subaru defines performance sedans in the plastic CUV cladding segment. I saw a new Civic today. The front end still looks weird, but it's not a terrible looking car. I still like the 10th gen, which I should have bought, better.
I dig them, from the rear they look like current gen A3s/S3s. They're much classier and dignified than the previous generation that looked like it was designed by a 12 year old with a Transformers fetish.
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The new Type R will be a hard thing to ignore. It will be a very practical .. just wish it didn't have that center exhaust. Not seeing how a hitch will work.
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I dig them, from the rear they look like current gen A3s/S3s. They're much classier and dignified than the previous generation that looked like it was designed by a 12 year old with a Transformers fetish.
The rear view on this new one is similar to an A3. I personally liked the ultra aggressive, very Japanese, styling of the 10th gen. The light blue 10th gen CTR was, IMO, the best looking car in the world that cost less than $50k out the door.I should have bought one.
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My neighbor has one. It looks awesome especially in person.
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The rear view on this new one is similar to an A3. I personally liked the ultra aggressive, very Japanese, styling of the 10th gen. The light blue 10th gen CTR was, IMO, the best looking car in the world that cost less than $50k out the door.I should have bought one.
The 10th gen was styled by the US team, and Japan hated it, so they styled the 11th gen.

I much prefer the 10th gen also. 11th gen looks "nice" but not sporty at all. But hopefully the Type R will fix that.
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The CTR stands out because you donít see many of them nor do you see many modern vehicles with that amount of boy racer cladding. Lower model 10th gen Civics IMO have not aged well at all as they look pretty bad IMO. This new design will age much more gracefully.
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A load of people bought the 10G Type-R because the performance is so solid and the interior is a nice place to spend time.. so much so they could ignore the exterior. Loads more never bought one because they were so ugly.

I think the bitching over the hood line protruding beyond the grille is hilarious. Before the Taurus introduced jelly bean aerodynamic aesthetics to modern cars, every car either has a wedge nose with pop-up headlights or a recessed grille. Some of my favorite 70s cars were BMWs with their long hoods that hung out over the front bumper.

Remember, in the real world you're going to experience the car from a high angle where that design element won't even register, except for the rear where you'll be stuck in traffic behind tens of thousands of 11th gens over the next 20 years.
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The CTR stands out because you donít see many of them nor do you see many modern vehicles with that amount of boy racer cladding. Lower model 10th gen Civics IMO have not aged well at all as they look pretty bad IMO. This new design will age much more gracefully.
Weirdly, I see more CTRs around town than I do STIs. I still think the sport hatch and SI look good.
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Weirdly, I see more CTRs around town than I do STIs. I still think the sport hatch and SI look good.
I don't see many here at all. Most owners have garaged them in hopes they will double in value in 20 years. This has to be the most garaged <$100k car in the history of automobiles.
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Old 09-23-2021, 12:27 PM   #225
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I don't see many here at all. Most owners have garaged them in hopes they will double in value in 20 years. This has to be the most garaged <$100k car in the history of automobiles.
I think Iíve seen one in every color. In fact, I saw one out driving in heavy rain today all kitted up with an extra set of rally style headlights. It was a very ugly look.

The worst thing about the CTR is the sound. It looks like an anime villain and sounds like a grandma car. Thereís a modded one on campus though and it sounds good with a cat back.
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