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12-10-2018, 02:56 PM | #26 | ||||
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i would recommend running away from mach 3-4 and go for linuxcnc + mesa control card. its WAYYYY better than mach but is much more involved in setup. Quote:
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12-11-2018, 08:55 PM | #27 | |||
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However for me, I'm already upgrading to the a Haas as some things have changed on my end. Looking at a VF1 tomorrow morning, and debating between it or a Super Mini Mill. |
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12-12-2018, 03:20 PM | #28 | |
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They also had a '99 VF2 in great condition, one shift/day 5 days/week that went for $3k |
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12-12-2018, 08:52 PM | #29 |
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linuxcnc is seriously alot better than mach/windows and is worth the effort if you want a robust controller. IMO its as reliable as all the "real" controls i have interacted with (fanuc) and much easier to use (than fanuc) due to a nice visual UI that makes sense. mach# is a joke. be prepared for lots of crashes when windows lets your machine keep going when you tell it to stop.
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12-13-2018, 09:36 AM | #30 | |
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i'm also fully DONE with Haas. after mine die, that's it. sick of dealing with that ****ty company and their ****ty factory resellers with moron service techs. thankfully, i have a really good independent Haas tech. their new machines are becoming a trashcan of chinese junk internal parts that don't last. |
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12-13-2018, 10:21 AM | #31 |
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^hmmmm, I've heard the opposite
No clue from experience as the '99 VF-5 I got there is our first, but it seems great so far after a few months running. Chinese junk seems to be in everything frankly, shame. China has been working over time getting ready to supply the US it's Xmas though. Container ships back and forth providing Amazon with the garbage it needs to send to US customers to cycle through their households for 6 months to a year before going to a landfill for the next 10,000 years. |
12-13-2018, 09:18 PM | #32 |
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Every machinist I've known has bashed Haas when it comes to precision but recommend for getting started due to support/commonality.
Trust me, a DMG Mori would be on my list of if money wasn't an issue For now the VF1 or Super Mini Mill will have me covered for the time being...I'll see how the next year goes and if the money is there for an upgrade to a new machine. |
12-14-2018, 07:35 AM | #33 | |
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Last auction I was at was a place with two dozen Mazak's all brand new within the last 10 years. Some looked like they were just un crated. Every bell and whistle on every machine, tool probes, camera/monitor systems, part catchers, dual spindles, live tooling, etc Best equipment I've ever seen under one roof. aaaaaaaaaannnnndd. . . . .they were liquidating their assets for dimes on the dollar |
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12-14-2018, 02:49 PM | #34 |
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TBH i would take any "big" machine right now in reality you don't need extreme accuracy for alot of parts other than a few critical features here and there. HAAS seems aimed toward guys who are new. they even have the lathe that is "manual no need to know g code" they are the megasquirt of cnc machines.
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12-14-2018, 04:12 PM | #35 | |
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I completely agree. I'm no expert at running CNCs as I've always been on the design side of them professionally. It also makes it great as Haas machines are thus plentiful. |
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12-17-2018, 11:00 AM | #36 | |
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honestly, seeing older 90's Haas on the used market is a good sign they're at least lasting that long, but a machine is only as good as the parts availability for it and your service tech. treat the Remote Hand Jog Control as if it is made of gold. Our Haas are precise enough for what we do, but my biggest gripe about them is their longevity and their abysmal factory support. i've had horrific problems with the ****ing losers at the Haas Factory Outlet here in CO. pure cry babies. they try to bully me for not using their **** service dept and have shipped me incorrect parts just to try to sabotage my independent service tech. |
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