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07-14-2018, 07:05 AM | #1 | |
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Next Nissan GT-R to be 'fastest super sports car in the world'
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07-14-2018, 11:32 AM | #2 |
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As soon as I would say they won't be able to do it, I realize that after what they were able to achieve with the R35, it isn't wise to doubt them.
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07-14-2018, 12:02 PM | #3 |
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07-14-2018, 02:08 PM | #4 |
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I love the R35, driven 3 and two of them were modded, and one of those was really f’in modded. But “electrification” sours me. If I wanted that I’d just go out and buy a Tesla P/D. No interest but best of luck to them. Not interested in a new NSX challenger. I see the current NSX as a complete sophistication cluster F that I would never want to own even if I could afford it. I’d take GT3RS over it any day or just a GT3. I don’t care if a dsg or whatever is quicker either, I still want to shift the g damn thing myself and I mean foot pedal and lever. How about, Nissan, build a R34 successor. AWD, twin turbo inline 6, forge the motor, and work on weight reduction as best you can with current safety regs, and make it as small as you can. Godzilla stomped around and killed stuff, and he didn’t have a battery pack.
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07-14-2018, 03:18 PM | #5 | |
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07-16-2018, 03:58 AM | #6 | |
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The GT-R is great and all, and while it's gotten faster and faster through the years, it's just not as earth-shattering as it used to be, especially considering how it's gone from being a $70k car to now a $100k car. This car is getting really long in the tooth and its chassis been around for over a decade now, to the point where its age is reminiscent of the old NSX during its lifespan (though at least Nissan threw on a bunch of extra horsepower at the GT-R over the years). I don't expect the next generation to start at any less than $110k whenever it comes out, and I'm not sure what they can do to it to really make a statement with the next one since it's not magically going to lose 500 pounds or be a lot more affordable than before or get 30 mpg. Its territory has just changed so much. Remember when the GT-R was new and Porsche was claiming that its 7:38 Nurburgring time was BS because it didn't seem logical and they even had one of their own drivers take one around and could only manage something like 7:50? Then Nissan put the set of wheels/tires from that lap on display, released the in-car footage of the lap and offered to give Porsche's driver lessons on how to drive the car? Now nobody is really worried about it. |
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07-16-2018, 09:51 AM | #7 |
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Looks like the Master Race car builders in Germany have a dual challenge. Possibility GT-R will beat the 911 at the Ring like last time and be a better bargain once again. Who will get new import taxes of 20% or more ? More likely Germany
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07-16-2018, 10:19 AM | #8 |
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Glad to see Nissan not caring about the "it's a computer on wheels" stereotype of the current GT-R. Because this will only add to it.
I'm sure they'll build something that will be insanely fast. But likely not on track. Electrification and race tracks don't seem to get along, yet. That said I don't see them beating Porsche at the 'Ring. Have you seen the GT2RS? No electrification there. And it beat the 981 Spyder's time. I'm sure Porsche is just getting started, too. |
07-16-2018, 10:26 AM | #9 |
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All Nissan has to do is knock 500 to 800 lbs off current car. At almost 4,000 lbs should be able to do that without too much trouble.
Chevrolet Corvette (C7) - Wikipedia Curb weight, 3,347 lb (1,518 kg) (Base) 3,444 lb (1,562 kg) (Z51) 3,523 lb (1,598 kg) (Z06) 3,560 lb (1,615 kg) (ZR1). 991.2 GT3 2017- 1,430 kg (3,153 lb) (PDK), 1,413 kg (3,115 lb) (manual) |
07-16-2018, 11:43 AM | #10 | |
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The NSX should be used as a reference point too. Japanese, all wheel drive, hybrid. They were discounting them tens of thousands of dollars to sell them last I checked. Turns out many enthusiasts didn’t want an over complicated mess of a car that weighs that much. It’s irrelevant anyways, because everyone is going to hybrid all the things. The days of a pure mechanical car are going the way of the dodo. They are all migrating to over complicated designs and the price will reflect that. MSRP’s are already going higher and higher very year. Battery packs, more driving nannies, all lead to higher consumer costs. Experts are saying when, not if, the automotive loan market is going to burst or pop. Won’t be like 2008 on homes but will have some real negative consequences. Years from now we’ll look back and see exactly when they over complicated everything. I see one thing happening, there are going to be some current models that retain their value exceedingly well. What a mess. |
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07-16-2018, 12:01 PM | #11 |
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^^No one wants simpler - people are stupid, lazy, and insecure - God forbid a different car has a better 0-60 time or more useless gadgets. Clevon has taken over! This will be the penis extension of choice for a particular pool of lucky (to have money) Clevons.
I have a Jag loaner right now - what a ****box - 99% of cars under ~100K drive the same now. Leaf or Corolla is the way to go - and if you're spending money, you have to look backwards in time to get the most enjoyment. |
07-16-2018, 02:30 PM | #12 | |
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The funniest thing this year as an example of this are the Apple earpod things. The white wireless things. They look absolutely ridiculous. People here sport them at the gym like they are doing it man. I’m just waiting for barcode tattoos on them all, and wearable cameras that interface with their phone. That way they can record 24/7 for their vlog/you-boob/followers, etc. The older I get the less products I want, the less I spend. It’s run amuck. That next product won’t fill the void in ya, neither will that new car where you traded in the exact same thing to get the slightly newer thing with one extra gadget. |
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07-16-2018, 02:51 PM | #13 | |
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07-16-2018, 02:59 PM | #14 | |
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So much yawn. Why does Nissan need to do this? Just compete in the STI/RS/R/CTR realm. Affordable. Attainable. There are so many of these over-the-top cars, it can't be an overly profitable venture for them. As stated by others, build a modern R34.
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The wireless headphone statement you have, I cannot agree with. I recently switched to wireless headsets for certain activities because I'm sick and tired of ripping headphones out of my ears when the cable gets caught on crap. 99% of the time I'm wired, but working out, mowing the lawn, etc. wireless. Not the trendy apple ones because I don't apple, but still. |
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07-16-2018, 04:18 PM | #15 | |
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07-16-2018, 06:14 PM | #16 |
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So you're just attacking people's stylistic choices on the type of wireless headset that they chose. Duly noted.
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07-16-2018, 10:47 PM | #17 |
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With a statement like that, I cannot wait to see what Nissan releases . . . in 2029.
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07-17-2018, 10:20 AM | #18 |
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07-17-2018, 10:36 AM | #19 |
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07-17-2018, 12:51 PM | #20 |
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07-17-2018, 02:31 PM | #21 |
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AirPods are considered the best or amongst the best wireless earphones. Sound quality matters more than style to a lot of people.
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07-17-2018, 03:54 PM | #22 |
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If sound quality is numero uno they bought the wrong deal either way. Get some Sennheisers instead, or Shures. Apple’s W1 chip is offered in better pods than the white starfleets
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07-17-2018, 03:59 PM | #23 |
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Not to derail, but what are the best wireless? I have the Jaybird ones and some over ear Bowers and Wilkins - can I get over ear quality in any wireless bud? I too hate Apple and all the Tesla drivers that wear them LOL
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07-17-2018, 10:23 PM | #24 |
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07-17-2018, 11:51 PM | #25 | |
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Contrasting to that, your examples about Mazda, Toyota and Subaru doing it don't quite match up since the "simpler" cars that they are making have always been simple, straight-forward FR cars, assuming you are talking about the Miata and 86 twins (which are not really competing for a demographic overly concerned with stats or breaking records). That might be more relevant toward a proper Z car though (which has generally been a bit on the heavy side and never really that fast compared to other cars you can get for the same money), not so much the GT-R. |
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