STX WRX Setup / Discussion thread - Page 2

thrdeye · 01-28-2008, 09:00 AM

I think the K&N made a bit of an improvement with throttle response. And it makes some noise, which is cool I guess. It wouldn't be a top priority, but I think Hoppe/Biggly made some good power with a typhoon and an inlet hose.

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PKer · 01-28-2008, 07:02 PM

How important do you think front endlinks are? I'm using my stock bar and stock endlinks right now.

thrdeye · 01-28-2008, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by PKer

How important do you think front endlinks are? I'm using my stock bar and stock endlinks right now.

not necessary. The factory ones are hard enough - metal.

BIGSKYWRX · 01-28-2008, 08:51 PM

^sedan- wagon gets mushy "dogbones"

PhilC · 01-29-2008, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by PKer

How important do you think front endlinks are? I'm using my stock bar and stock endlinks right now.

Stockers work fine on the sedan until you break one. Then you'll find that the stockers cost more each than a set of aftermarkets do. Don't buy the Poltecs to replace them with, ours will need to be cut off if I want to take that front sway off since the bolts are rusted to uselessness.

Butt Dyno · 01-29-2008, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by PhilC

Don't buy the Poltecs to replace them with,

+1. My 27mm Whiteline snapped a Poltec clean in half

john

BIGSKYWRX · 01-29-2008, 10:55 PM

I've had good luck w/ Poltecs front and rear- did snap a oe sedan link when I was running aluminum arms, the Poltecs held up fine

we don't use any salt on our roads (but we do have plenty of snow packed and icy roads

) maybe that's part of it?

what links are you running now?

Butt Dyno · 01-29-2008, 11:12 PM

Kartboys... 1 season down so far with no problems.

DrBiggly · 01-31-2008, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by PhilC

Stockers work fine on the sedan until you break one. Then you'll find that the stockers cost more each than a set of aftermarkets do. Don't buy the Poltecs to replace them with, ours will need to be cut off if I want to take that front sway off since the bolts are rusted to uselessness.

Do what? I don't pay but like $25/endlink for the stockers.

Mine have been through years of Hoppe-ism, Rankins-time, and even the occasional semi-offroad excursion because of me. Not to mention the 110k total miles.

Where are you buying your stockers from and which aftermarkets are you buying? Next time I buy one (Ok, I've bought 1 in like 3.5 years...didn't actually need to really, but figured I would) I'll look at an aftermarket set if they really are that much better.

-Biggly

DrBiggly · 01-31-2008, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by thrdeye

I think the K&N made a bit of an improvement with throttle response. And it makes some noise, which is cool I guess. It wouldn't be a top priority, but I think Hoppe/Biggly made some good power with a typhoon and an inlet hose.

I think it's the best design on the market (at least that I know about.) It is definitely better than the APS one that went into the fender well, where if your filter was dirty it necessitated jacking up the corner of the car, removing a wheel, and then removing the fender liner. The K&N definitely has an advantage there.

I have the graph somewhere, would have to dig it up. But after a retune and the new intake setup (silicon hose too by the way) it did show an improvement that was notable.

Throttle response on my car will suck as long as I have the prototype/hacked headers and the separate wastegate tube downpipe. Wastes way too much heat and doesn't keep the exhaust moving as well as it could. I wouldn't mind going to a 2.5" exhaust of some sort to be honest; I'd get throttle response back with no actual power loss in the band. The throttle response and drivability would do wonders for autox.

edit: As for now, I just get back on the gas a few minutes before each significant corner that I need to dig out of in order to compensate...

-Biggly

Splash · 01-31-2008, 11:16 PM

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edit: As for now, I just get back on the gas a few minutes before each significant corner that I need to dig out of in order to compensate...

Damn dude... Either your courses are HUGE, or your lag is BAAAAD....

DrBiggly · 02-01-2008, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Merriam-Webster

Main Entry: hy·per·bo·le
Function: noun
Etymology: Latin, from Greek hyperbol***275; excess, hyperbole, hyperbola, from hyperballein to exceed, from hyper- + ballein to throw - more at devil
Date: 15th century
: extravagant exaggeration (as "mile-high ice-cream cones")

Exaggeration for effect man. But yes, my lag is really pretty bad.

-Biggly

Butt Dyno · 02-02-2008, 03:52 PM

Oh Jesus Christ.

http://sccaforums.com/forums/thread/283202.aspx

They want to let the E36 M3 into STX.

john

BIGSKYWRX · 02-02-2008, 04:11 PM

and the RX8 by several of the posters- geez

BIGSKYWRX · 02-02-2008, 04:37 PM

I don't know why, but I posted to that thread

Ralliart4 · 02-03-2008, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ButtDyno

Oh Jesus Christ.

http://sccaforums.com/forums/thread/283202.aspx

They want to let the E36 M3 into STX.

john

OH just wait a damn John Wayne minuite......... are they nuts. SCCA f'ing it up for the fun again good friggin job.

Butt Dyno · 02-03-2008, 12:22 AM

Yeah... let's take probably the most diverse ST* class and jam an overdog into it after it's been on the exclusion list for several years. Something something rules stability something something.

Ralliart4 · 02-03-2008, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ButtDyno

Yeah... let's take probably the most diverse ST* class and jam an overdog into it after it's been on the exclusion list for several years. Something something rules stability something something.

But why.. really is there any real reason to ask the exclusion to end? Are these guys just board or something.

The story of 'oh they wont be dominant any more because of the wrx' is BBOOOOBOOOOO.. that car is so much more affordable and available now and already dominant in the higher classes.

qcslvr30 · 02-03-2008, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Ralliart4

OH just wait a damn John Wayne minuite......... are they nuts. SCCA f'ing it up for the fun again good friggin job.

For the record, this was not brought up by the SCCA. This is a discussion on SCCAForums(not affiliated with SCCA) by members who are merely thinking out loud. Too much wieght is put into these "what if?" disussions on web forums. If you are worried about it, write a quick letter to the SCCA and explain why you don"t think such an idea is appropriate.

It's okay, take a deep breath, the sky is not falling.

James

Butt Dyno · 02-03-2008, 09:53 AM

Okay, "they want to let" was perhaps a bit overdramatic.

It came pretty close to the apparent end of the latest emissions thread (http://sccaforums.com/forums/thread/278185.aspx), where I still haven't seen anyone explain why the STS/2 cars can do something that the EPA clearly considers tampering, but the STX/U cars can't.

I'm not sure about "too much weight for what ifs" though, at least in this case. I would think that if the threads go well / don't go well it would definitely influence what the STAC ends up recommending.

john

Scooby921 · 02-08-2008, 01:05 PM

If you intend to run any national events and hope to win any contingency money, the tire decision for STX just got simplified. With Yokohama not providing contingency money this season and Toyo not having a "legal" tire to even try out, all roads lead to Bridgestone.

Anyone want some Advans? I have two sets to unload.

r0nzar · 02-08-2008, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Scooby921

If you intend to run any national events and hope to win any contingency money, the tire decision for STX just got simplified. With Yokohama not providing contingency money this season and Toyo not having a "legal" tire to even try out, all roads lead to Bridgestone.

Anyone want some Advans? I have two sets to unload.

interested....pm'ed you to keep this on topic

vwawd · 02-08-2008, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Scooby921

If you intend to run any national events and hope to win any contingency money, the tire decision for STX just got simplified. With Yokohama not providing contingency money this season and Toyo not having a "legal" tire to even try out, all roads lead to Bridgestone.

What's the issue with Toyo's tire?

Scooby921 · 02-08-2008, 02:35 PM

To be legal a tire has to be available in 4 diameters and 6 sizes. Toyo R1R is only available in 3 diameters. Unless they release something in a 16" diameter before the end of April, the tire isn't legal.

thrdeye · 02-08-2008, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Scooby921

To be legal a tire has to be available in 4 diameters and 6 sizes. Toyo R1R is available in 3 diameters and 7 sizes.

....or available as OEM on a vehicle. This made the Neova legal before it was available in the required sizes.

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01-28-2008, 09:00 AM	#26
thrdeye Scooby Specialist Member#: 24569 Join Date: Sep 2002 Chapter/Region: South East Location: East Tennessee Vehicle: 2004 Mazda RX8 Titanium	I think the K&N made a bit of an improvement with throttle response. And it makes some noise, which is cool I guess. It wouldn't be a top priority, but I think Hoppe/Biggly made some good power with a typhoon and an inlet hose. * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

01-28-2008, 07:02 PM	#27
PKer Scooby Specialist Member#: 27647 Join Date: Oct 2002 Chapter/Region: SCIC	How important do you think front endlinks are? I'm using my stock bar and stock endlinks right now.

01-28-2008, 08:51 PM	#29
BIGSKYWRX Scooby Guru Member#: 7958 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Plains of Eastern Montana Vehicle: 09 GH B+	^sedan- wagon gets mushy "dogbones"

01-29-2008, 10:55 PM	#32
BIGSKYWRX Scooby Guru Member#: 7958 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Plains of Eastern Montana Vehicle: 09 GH B+	I've had good luck w/ Poltecs front and rear- did snap a oe sedan link when I was running aluminum arms, the Poltecs held up fine we don't use any salt on our roads (but we do have plenty of snow packed and icy roads ) maybe that's part of it? what links are you running now?

01-29-2008, 11:12 PM	#33
Butt Dyno Street's closed, pizza boy Member#: 17301 Join Date: Apr 2002 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: NoVA Vehicle: 2018 Focus RS 2006 Evo #17 STU	Kartboys... 1 season down so far with no problems.

02-02-2008, 03:52 PM	#38
Butt Dyno Street's closed, pizza boy Member#: 17301 Join Date: Apr 2002 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: NoVA Vehicle: 2018 Focus RS 2006 Evo #17 STU	Oh Jesus Christ. http://sccaforums.com/forums/thread/283202.aspx They want to let the E36 M3 into STX. john

02-02-2008, 04:11 PM	#39
BIGSKYWRX Scooby Guru Member#: 7958 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Plains of Eastern Montana Vehicle: 09 GH B+	and the RX8 by several of the posters- geez

02-02-2008, 04:37 PM	#40
BIGSKYWRX Scooby Guru Member#: 7958 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Plains of Eastern Montana Vehicle: 09 GH B+	I don't know why, but I posted to that thread

02-03-2008, 12:22 AM	#42
Butt Dyno Street's closed, pizza boy Member#: 17301 Join Date: Apr 2002 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: NoVA Vehicle: 2018 Focus RS 2006 Evo #17 STU	Yeah... let's take probably the most diverse ST* class and jam an overdog into it after it's been on the exclusion list for several years. Something something rules stability something something.

02-03-2008, 09:53 AM	#45
Butt Dyno Street's closed, pizza boy Member#: 17301 Join Date: Apr 2002 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: NoVA Vehicle: 2018 Focus RS 2006 Evo #17 STU	Okay, "they want to let" was perhaps a bit overdramatic. It came pretty close to the apparent end of the latest emissions thread (http://sccaforums.com/forums/thread/278185.aspx), where I still haven't seen anyone explain why the STS/2 cars can do something that the EPA clearly considers tampering, but the STX/U cars can't. I'm not sure about "too much weight for what ifs" though, at least in this case. I would think that if the threads go well / don't go well it would definitely influence what the STAC ends up recommending. john

02-08-2008, 01:05 PM	#46
Scooby921 Merci Buckets Moderator Member#: 88606 Join Date: Jun 2005 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Michigan Vehicle: 2018 Grand Cherokee Velvet Red Pearl	If you intend to run any national events and hope to win any contingency money, the tire decision for STX just got simplified. With Yokohama not providing contingency money this season and Toyo not having a "legal" tire to even try out, all roads lead to Bridgestone. Anyone want some Advans? I have two sets to unload.

02-08-2008, 02:35 PM	#49
Scooby921 Merci Buckets Moderator Member#: 88606 Join Date: Jun 2005 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Michigan Vehicle: 2018 Grand Cherokee Velvet Red Pearl	To be legal a tire has to be available in 4 diameters and 6 sizes. Toyo R1R is only available in 3 diameters. Unless they release something in a 16" diameter before the end of April, the tire isn't legal.