PhatBotti Tuning - Tuning FAQ & Misc Info - Page 2

amp0412 · 12-02-2011, 11:25 AM

awesome job ron.

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Cobb Tuning · 12-02-2011, 11:36 AM

Hi Ron,

Nice job!

We've had quite a few monitor name changes since the AccessPORT firmware overhaul in Feb. of this year. We recommend that anyone running the old firmware update to the latest. They are more in-line with Subaru's naming convention (as well as my own), so they are close to RomRaider's naming scheme (see name changes relevant to your list below). There are also numerous monitor additions as well as monitors added for specific ECUs for a consistent assortment.

As it relates to the stored values for A, B, C, D of A/F Learning 1, these were added to this update so you can log them via the AP.

"Learned Ign" is your list would be "Dynamic Adv." for AP as it relates to the described RomRaider parameter.

Monitor name changes (old -> new):
"Air/Fuel Ratio" -> "A/F Sens 1 Ratio"
"Fuel Trim (Long)" -> "A/F Learning 1"
"Fuel Trim (Short)" -> "A/F Correction 1"
"Ignition Adv." -> "Ignition Timing"
"Knock Correction" -> "Feedback Knock"
"Knock Learning" -> "Fine Knock Learn"
"Turbo Dynamics" -> "TD Boost Error"

Hope that helps,
Bill

Airboy · 12-02-2011, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhatBotti Tuning TKR

[b]The HKS SSQV is the worst valve on the market...stay away at all costs.

Please elaborate

Phatron · 12-02-2011, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobb Tuning

Hi Ron,

Nice job!

We've had quite a few monitor name changes since the AccessPORT firmware overhaul in Feb. of this year. We recommend that anyone running the old firmware update to the latest. They are more in-line with Subaru's naming convention (as well as my own),

yeah, i just copy/pasted those from Eric....just didnt get around to changing them. i'll try and update today/tonight.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Airboy

Please elaborate

Its not only the HKS BOV.....its most on the market. All the bov's come with chitty weak springs that leak at idle. Basically i like any bpv/bov that has a spring kit and is adjustable.

Equilibrium Tuning · 12-02-2011, 02:22 PM

Dyno Tuning Pro: Much greater level of detail and consistency of power measurement allowing for finer adjustments more repeatable results.

-- Ed

Maxwell Power · 12-02-2011, 04:16 PM

PRO: No old ladies, other drivers, inclement weather, deer or pets to run over or get run into by.

Equilibrium Tuning · 12-02-2011, 04:26 PM

Dyno Tuning Con: You'd have to have some serious balls to test for shift knock on a dyno

-- Ed

PhatBotti Tuning TKR · 12-02-2011, 04:38 PM

im gonna drive up to MPS and hide in the corner while doms on the dyno and throw a fake deer at the car.

Weather does suck....im doing 3-4 guys in canadia and alaska right now. they all paid and then emailed me and said they couldnt do pulls because there's 15 feet of snow outside their igloo.

Maxwell Power · 12-02-2011, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Equilibrium Tuning

Dyno Tuning Con: You'd have to have some serious balls to test for shift knock on a dyno

-- Ed

Then mine are made of steel because I've tested for it plenty of times. On a mustang dyno it's not as nerve wracking but on this DynoCom it's scarey. In an evo it's terrifying.

Equilibrium Tuning · 12-03-2011, 01:24 PM

Bigger ones than me bud. I leave that testing for the "track"

.

-- Ed

reid-o · 12-03-2011, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maxwell Power

Then mine are made of steel because I've tested for it plenty of times.

I bet you used this line in college quite a bit lol

kakarot09 · 12-04-2011, 07:18 PM

^^ hahaha
Thanks for making this Ron. Link saved.

punchjamesarnol · 12-05-2011, 12:48 AM

Subscribed...

STi Mikey · 12-05-2011, 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Equilibrium Tuning

Dyno Tuning Con: You'd have to have some serious balls to test for shift knock on a dyno

-- Ed

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maxwell Power

Then mine are made of steel because I've tested for it plenty of times. On a mustang dyno it's not as nerve wracking but on this DynoCom it's scarey. In an evo it's terrifying.

You guys ever try it at 650whp?? I tuned this bad boy a couple months back, dyno passes got pretty sketchy but we lived to see another day (THANK GOD

)

My Movie (5) - YouTube

nattywrx · 12-05-2011, 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STi Mikey

You guys ever try it at 650whp?? I tuned this bad boy a couple months back, dyno passes got pretty sketchy but we lived to see another day (THANK GOD

)

My Movie (5) - YouTube

Now that is some super sketchy stuff right there lol. I felt like the car was going to fly off as soon as it started rolling on the dyno.

PhatBotti Tuning TKR · 12-05-2011, 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nattywrx

Now that is some super sketchy stuff right there lol. I felt like the car was going to fly off as soon as it started rolling on the dyno.

Yup, wasnt me driving, lol. I was actually logging I think on that run. The owner is nuts. He is a friend of mine. When it comes to cars, all I can say is insanity

NITROS · 12-06-2011, 10:37 AM

why isnt this a sticky yet?

NSFW · 12-07-2011, 12:43 AM

Nice job, Ron. Lots of good stuff in this thread.

Equilibrium Tuning · 12-07-2011, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STi Mikey

You guys ever try it at 650whp?? I tuned this bad boy a couple months back, dyno passes got pretty sketchy but we lived to see another day (THANK GOD

)

My Movie (5) - YouTube

Yea.... F That!!

-- Ed

jkunze · 12-07-2011, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STi Mikey

You guys ever try it at 650whp?? I tuned this bad boy a couple months back, dyno passes got pretty sketchy but we lived to see another day (THANK GOD

)

My Movie (5) - YouTube

That is some scary *****. That car obviously didn't want to be on a treadmill. It wanted the open road.

PhatBotti Tuning TKR · 12-08-2011, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phatron

Yes there is a difference. Here is a pic of a 2008 LGT MAF (left) vs 2011 STI MAF (right).....you can see at 5 volts the LGT is maxed out ~338 g/s.....while the STi maxes out ~384 g/s.

2004-2007 STi limit is 348 g/s (stock scale stops at 4.92 MAFv)
2008+ STi limit is 384 g/s (stock scale stops at 5 MAFv)

2002-2005 WRX limit is 292 g/s (this is where that 300hp limit came from)(stock scale stops at 4.69 MAFv)
2006-2007 WRX limit is 295 g/s (stock scale stops at 4.69 MAFv)
2008+ WRX limit is 375 g/s (stock scale stops at 5 MAFv)

LGT's seem to have been at 338 g/s @ 5 MAFv the whole time

random info

BrakeSTI · 12-12-2011, 08:29 PM

1 Subscribed, 2 wow the search button really works, 3 thanks for the great info it saved me from getting ridiculed for asking noobish questions.

alottaboost · 12-19-2011, 01:28 PM

Just an FYI... FP just jacked the price up on the HTA 68

so the second post could use an update...

Maxwell Power · 12-19-2011, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alottaboost

Just an FYI... FP just jacked the price up on the HTA 68

so the second post could use an update...

THAT TURBO SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't be sad.

I don't get why people think it is so great. It blows, in a bad way.
There are so many better turbos out there. It is by far the most over-hyped POS turbo I have EVER seen.

The hta68 is a HUGE mismatch in compressor and turbine wheels. It requires tons of back pressure and high shaft speed to make boost. IT is the exact opposite of what a Subaru should be running. Save your engine, run something else.

alottaboost · 12-19-2011, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maxwell Power

THAT TURBO SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't be sad.

I don't get why people think it is so great. It blows, in a bad way.
There are so many better turbos out there. It is by far the most over-hyped POS turbo I have EVER seen.

The hta68 is a HUGE mismatch in compressor and turbine wheels. It requires tons of back pressure and high shaft speed to make boost. IT is the exact opposite of what a Subaru should be running. Save your engine, run something else.

I guess it just looks good on paper. For that amount of money, it used to compete with turbos... in it's current price range... looks like an 8cm Blouch 18/20G would be the better buy for me.

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12-02-2011, 11:25 AM	#26
amp0412 Scooby Newbie Member#: 179330 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Jersey Vehicle: 05 LGT Wgn 400whp PriceRocket	awesome job ron. * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

12-02-2011, 11:36 AM	#27
Cobb Tuning NASIOC Vendor Member#: 4803 Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Austin, TX	Hi Ron, Nice job! We've had quite a few monitor name changes since the AccessPORT firmware overhaul in Feb. of this year. We recommend that anyone running the old firmware update to the latest. They are more in-line with Subaru's naming convention (as well as my own), so they are close to RomRaider's naming scheme (see name changes relevant to your list below). There are also numerous monitor additions as well as monitors added for specific ECUs for a consistent assortment. As it relates to the stored values for A, B, C, D of A/F Learning 1, these were added to this update so you can log them via the AP. "Learned Ign" is your list would be "Dynamic Adv." for AP as it relates to the described RomRaider parameter. Monitor name changes (old -> new): "Air/Fuel Ratio" -> "A/F Sens 1 Ratio" "Fuel Trim (Long)" -> "A/F Learning 1" "Fuel Trim (Short)" -> "A/F Correction 1" "Ignition Adv." -> "Ignition Timing" "Knock Correction" -> "Feedback Knock" "Knock Learning" -> "Fine Knock Learn" "Turbo Dynamics" -> "TD Boost Error" Hope that helps, Bill

12-02-2011, 02:22 PM	#30
Equilibrium Tuning Former Vendor Member#: 26933 Join Date: Oct 2002 Chapter/Region: BAIC Location: Fairfield, CA Vehicle: 2006 STI CGM	Dyno Tuning Pro: Much greater level of detail and consistency of power measurement allowing for finer adjustments more repeatable results. -- Ed

12-02-2011, 04:16 PM	#31
Maxwell Power Former Vendor Member#: 190729 Join Date: Oct 2008 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Marysville, WA	PRO: No old ladies, other drivers, inclement weather, deer or pets to run over or get run into by.

12-02-2011, 04:26 PM	#32
Equilibrium Tuning Former Vendor Member#: 26933 Join Date: Oct 2002 Chapter/Region: BAIC Location: Fairfield, CA Vehicle: 2006 STI CGM	Dyno Tuning Con: You'd have to have some serious balls to test for shift knock on a dyno -- Ed

12-02-2011, 04:38 PM	#33
PhatBotti Tuning TKR Former Vendor Member#: 239659 Join Date: Feb 2010 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: Tri-State / California Vehicle: STI Mikey & Phatron Tuning Da Subies	im gonna drive up to MPS and hide in the corner while doms on the dyno and throw a fake deer at the car. Weather does suck....im doing 3-4 guys in canadia and alaska right now. they all paid and then emailed me and said they couldnt do pulls because there's 15 feet of snow outside their igloo.

12-03-2011, 01:24 PM	#35
Equilibrium Tuning Former Vendor Member#: 26933 Join Date: Oct 2002 Chapter/Region: BAIC Location: Fairfield, CA Vehicle: 2006 STI CGM	Bigger ones than me bud. I leave that testing for the "track" . -- Ed

12-04-2011, 07:18 PM	#37
kakarot09 Scooby Specialist Member#: 182375 Join Date: Jun 2008 Chapter/Region: SWIC Location: Northern Nevada Vehicle: 2013 Sti World Rally Blue	^^ hahaha Thanks for making this Ron. Link saved.

12-05-2011, 12:48 AM	#38
punchjamesarnol Scooby Newbie Member#: 284835 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: S.D. Vehicle: 2014 Hyundai Equus White Pearl Mica	Subscribed...

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12-07-2011, 12:43 AM	#43
NSFW Scooby Guru Member#: 140444 Join Date: Feb 2007 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Near Seattle, WA Vehicle: 05 Stage Free LGT ATP 3076, 6MT, AVO FMIC	Nice job, Ron. Lots of good stuff in this thread.

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BrakeSTI Scooby Newbie Member#: 291286 Join Date: Aug 2011 Chapter/Region: SWIC Location: Clovis Vehicle: 2008 STI Spark Silver	1 Subscribed, 2 wow the search button really works, 3 thanks for the great info it saved me from getting ridiculed for asking noobish questions.

12-19-2011, 01:28 PM	#48
alottaboost Scooby Specialist Member#: 158029 Join Date: Aug 2007 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Shippensburg, PA Vehicle: 2017 Jeep Wrangler Firecracker Red	Just an FYI... FP just jacked the price up on the HTA 68 so the second post could use an update...