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Old 04-01-2020, 02:42 PM   #76
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Good eye on the Oil Cap. It was given to me as a gift, and I had it on my Legacy GT when they were originally $150 new. Careful, there are a bunch of fake ones out there.


So here is the difference between the STi OEM short shifter and the Group N Unit. It was designed to be able to be used with the WRC dogboxes.




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Old 04-01-2020, 03:00 PM   #77
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That red battery tray bracket is confusing to look at as it's too close to the terminals. They should keep that a non-red color for safety.

Maybe that's a pink, not sure.
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Old 04-01-2020, 03:04 PM   #78
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The OEM+ of this makes me all tingly

And as a Subaru Parts Manager, I'm sure your dealers Parts Department is loving you as well

Awesome thread so far.
Thanks for the kind words! Its just fun to think of the car Subaru COULD build with the OEM/Group N parts available. The 2007 Spec C Type RA-R comes to mind.

Alot of these parts I got used from S209 Owners who were upgrading. Japan Parts has definitely loved seeing my name tho.

I am still undecided about power mods. There is an OEM S209 Turbo brand new for sale on Ebay right now haha. But I would rather go Twin Scroll if I decided to go down that path. At that point, I think I would jump ship to a Cayman GT4 that I have my eye on. But for now, stock levels are just fine
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Old 04-01-2020, 03:06 PM   #79
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That red battery tray bracket is confusing to look at as it's too close to the terminals. They should keep that a non-red color for safety.

Maybe that's a pink, not sure.
I found the part number for the OEM lightweight Type RA-R battery. Once this ones dies I am going to that setup. IDK if this battery hold down will work with that battery
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Old 04-01-2020, 05:05 PM   #80
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Its just fun to think of the car Subaru COULD build with the OEM/Group N parts available.

Japan Parts has definitely loved seeing my name tho.

I am still undecided about power mods. There is an OEM S209 Turbo brand new for sale on Ebay right now haha. But I would rather go Twin Scroll if I decided to go down that path.
I completely agree. I have very similar goals for my '19 STI.. I'm just a ways behind you still

I'd personally skip the S209 turbo.. IMO it's too much money for a journal bearing, single scroll turbo.. especially with the amount of lag that it's shown on the dyno charts so far.

I just received the shipment notification today for my S208 VF58 turbo.. twin scroll, ball bearing, titanium aluminide turbine wheel & shaft

I plan to pair it with the OEM twin scroll manifold, red Group N turbo inlet, S209 intake, and probably an OEM downpipe considering that I live in California. I'm undecided on whether to go with Cobb's Ti catback (and likely add a Vibrant Ti resonator) or invest the $$$ in the OEM S209 mufflers.. considering both options are roughly the same price

After that, I'm moving on to the S series chassis bracing & suspension bits like you. However, I'd like to source a set of the S208 DampMatic II dampers with the STi pink springs. I'd also like to source a set of of the 18" Type RA-R wheels. And the list goes on.. further than my wallet or I can rationalize.

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Good eye on the Oil Cap. It was given to me as a gift, and I had it on my Legacy GT when they were originally $150 new. Careful, there are a bunch of fake ones out there.

So here is the difference between the STi OEM short shifter and the Group N Unit. It was designed to be able to be used with the WRC dogboxes.
Lucky you! I haven't been able to find a real one for any price. eBay is full of fakes.

Thanks for sharing the great pictures for comparison of the two shifters.

Edit: And this is why the forum user levels (eg Scooby Newbie) shouldn't be based on post counts. You're clearly not a newbie. Keep up the amazing work!

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Old 04-01-2020, 07:05 PM   #81
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  • '15 - 17 have 20mm
  • '18 - '19 (STI & RA) have 19mm
  • S209 will have 20mm
A member on IWSTI measured the 19mm rear bar (from his RA) and an older 20mm bar and found them to be 19.24mm & 20.45mm respectively.
all the generations of US STI are 19-20 MM. I got 20MM whiteline rear bushings for my 06 and they fit tight. My OEM bushings were Poly anyway so the advantage of the whiteline is they have a self lubricated material on the inner bore.
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Old 04-01-2020, 07:47 PM   #82
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Thanks for the kind words! Its just fun to think of the car Subaru COULD build with the OEM/Group N parts available. The 2007 Spec C Type RA-R comes to mind.

Alot of these parts I got used from S209 Owners who were upgrading. Japan Parts has definitely loved seeing my name tho.

I am still undecided about power mods. There is an OEM S209 Turbo brand new for sale on Ebay right now haha. But I would rather go Twin Scroll if I decided to go down that path. At that point, I think I would jump ship to a Cayman GT4 that I have my eye on. But for now, stock levels are just fine
Oh nice! JP is always a pleasure to work with.

GT4 would be killer also!

And I had eyed the Group N shifter a few times before, was looking for the best option with an H pattern, and kept going back to that. The CAE shifter is just a hassle, and not easily compatible on a VA chassis either.
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Old 04-01-2020, 08:33 PM   #83
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all the generations of US STI are 19-20 MM. I got 20MM whiteline rear bushings for my 06 and they fit tight. My OEM bushings were Poly anyway so the advantage of the whiteline is they have a self lubricated material on the inner bore.
The rear swaybar on the Type RA is definitely smaller than the S209 and earlier STi's. The engineer at WBM said the Bilsteins were valved to reduce understeer and make the car more neutral. During autox I already lift the rear inside wheel on hairpins. Curious to see how the S209 suspension does before I move to a more adjustable setup.
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Old 04-01-2020, 11:16 PM   #84
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The rear swaybar on the Type RA is definitely smaller than the S209 and earlier STi's. The engineer at WBM said the Bilsteins were valved to reduce understeer and make the car more neutral. During autox I already lift the rear inside wheel on hairpins. Curious to see how the S209 suspension does before I move to a more adjustable setup.
Interesting, I didnt know that about he RA, thank you for sharing the info!
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Old 04-02-2020, 05:32 AM   #85
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Interesting, I didnt know that about he RA, thank you for sharing the info!
Yea it was baffling when I found this out as well. Stole this from a fellow member on IWSTI from his RA



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Old 04-02-2020, 05:35 AM   #86
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I completely agree. I have very similar goals for my '19 STI.. I'm just a ways behind you still

I'd personally skip the S209 turbo.. IMO it's too much money for a journal bearing, single scroll turbo.. especially with the amount of lag that it's shown on the dyno charts so far.

I just received the shipment notification today for my S208 VF58 turbo.. twin scroll, ball bearing, titanium aluminide turbine wheel & shaft

I plan to pair it with the OEM twin scroll manifold, red Group N turbo inlet, S209 intake, and probably an OEM downpipe considering that I live in California. I'm undecided on whether to go with Cobb's Ti catback (and likely add a Vibrant Ti resonator) or invest the $$$ in the OEM S209 mufflers.. considering both options are roughly the same price
That setup sounds awesome. Since you are going twin scroll JDM and want to stay OEM+ Prodrive makes an upgraded downpipe that was availible as a Performance Pack back in the day. Google it, and you can see that there are a few for sale still.
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Old 04-02-2020, 04:50 PM   #87
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Yea it was baffling when I found this out as well. Stole this from a fellow member on IWSTI from his RA




GREAT info! It shows the level of detail that goes into the factory suspension tuning as well for individual models.
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Old 04-02-2020, 08:47 PM   #88
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GREAT info! It shows the level of detail that goes into the factory suspension tuning as well for individual models.
Its definitely one of those things that is interesting about OEM designs. Its more about the sum of all the parts working so well together.
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Old 04-11-2020, 01:10 AM   #89
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I had originally planned on ordering a set of STi Pinks for the Type RA Bilsteins. While searching for parts on ebay I almost spit my coffee out when I saw a set of S209 Bilsteins and Pink 10mm STi springs for sale. Made an offer, and they were on their way.















Before





After





Impression. The 10mm drop is perfect for my taste. The car is flat in the corners compared to stock. The ride quality is unchanged. Overall, with all of the S209/JDM Bracing and Suspension the car is very precise and flat without be harsh when you dont need it to be.
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Old 04-11-2020, 01:29 AM   #90
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Now that the suspension mods are basically done I am moving onto the drivetrain. Again, trying to build something of a Type RA-R for the VA chassi with this car. I love Group N parts, and I love rare parts even more. There are a few of these still floating around out there, but not many. I scored a new unopened Group N STi Shifter assembly. These were originally designed for use with the WRC Dogboxes. All solid bushings everywhere. I also have on order Group N Transmission Mount, Group N Transmission Crossmember Bushings, Group N Shifter Bushing.









The reverse lockout is now a solid 1 piece design.





Another thing I had been looking around for is a rare shift knob to go with my setup. I thought about the S209 knob, but it was a little to common. I remember the first time I sat in an STi back in 2004. I was 14. I remember the shift knob vividly. It was smaller but heavy feeling. Oh, and it was Titanium. This was an option on the GD STi's and they were not cheap. You can find them for over $250 in new shape, or for around $150 in fair shape. I found this on a Facebook Subaru Group. Its basically in new shape. The sticker at the bottom is known to be worn over time.







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Old 04-22-2020, 07:16 PM   #91
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Still waiting on my shipment from Japan Parts to arrive with all the Group N goodies for the shifter and transmission bushings. While not a JDM part I absolutely love the way the JPM Coachworks gauge surround looked on these cars. Gave it an OEM feel.





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Old 04-23-2020, 05:34 PM   #92
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Almost all the parts for my Group N drivetrain setup has arrived from Japan Parts. The Group N Transmission mount showed up.

I went with the "000" mount over the "040" mount because a lot of people talk about the NVH that the "040" Competition Group N mount gives vs the standard Group N mount.



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Old 04-28-2020, 05:06 PM   #93
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The titanium shift knob also came on the 2008 sti as part of the popular package if you ordered it with the OEM short shifter. I still have mine and the original stickers in a box randomly...turns out that was a good idea!
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Incredible build. I absolutely love OEM parts, especially STi parts.

Such a refreshing change from all the aftermarket flared/coilover/body kit builds that are a dime a dozen.

Love it!
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Wow I've been eyeing that titanium shift knob for awhile and can never find in that condition. eBay sellers are pricing it at $300+ Loving this OEM+ build so much. Definitely inspiring!
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Almost all the parts for my Group N drivetrain setup has arrived from Japan Parts. The Group N Transmission mount showed up.

First and foremost, well done! There's only a handful of cars, here, that have given me the motivation to even want to modify my RA and yours is one of them. I don't have all too much for it, for now, but I've got a few pieces.

That said, I wanted to get your thoughts on the RA-R suspension, which is uniquely not Bilstein, and see if you were aware of the differences?

I've been trying to dig and dig, but I can't seem to find any info on why the RA-R is running unique suspension and not Bilsteins; one thing that popped into my head was possibly weight?

Japan parts knows me well too, I think Nick as well - ah, this hobby is a disease.
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The titanium shift knob also came on the 2008 sti as part of the popular package if you ordered it with the OEM short shifter. I still have mine and the original stickers in a box randomly...turns out that was a good idea!
Didn't know it was available past the GD. That's cool. I definitely like the look of the knob, however I find it too small for my liking. Probably going to make a change someday,
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Old 04-30-2020, 08:34 AM   #98
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Incredible build. I absolutely love OEM parts, especially STi parts.

Such a refreshing change from all the aftermarket flared/coilover/body kit builds that are a dime a dozen.

Love it!
Thanks for the kind words!
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Old 04-30-2020, 08:45 AM   #99
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First and foremost, well done! There's only a handful of cars, here, that have given me the motivation to even want to modify my RA and yours is one of them. I don't have all too much for it, for now, but I've got a few pieces.

That said, I wanted to get your thoughts on the RA-R suspension, which is uniquely not Bilstein, and see if you were aware of the differences?

I've been trying to dig and dig, but I can't seem to find any info on why the RA-R is running unique suspension and not Bilsteins; one thing that popped into my head was possibly weight?

Japan parts knows me well too, I think Nick as well - ah, this hobby is a disease.
The RA-R of this generation I feel is very watered down compared to the all mighty Spec C RA-R. I wouldn't put it past Subaru to just cut some costs on a special edition.

I am a fan boy so ignore my reason for going with the S209 Suspension, but the difference between the RA setup and S209 setup was not as drastic of a difference as I would have hoped. With all the bracing and pillow ball bits it definitely handles better for sure. But at a premium.

You still have those RA-R mirrors?
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The RA-R of this generation I feel is very watered down compared to the all mighty Spec C RA-R. I wouldn't put it past Subaru to just cut some costs on a special edition.

I am a fan boy so ignore my reason for going with the S209 Suspension, but the difference between the RA setup and S209 setup was not as drastic of a difference as I would have hoped. With all the bracing and pillow ball bits it definitely handles better for sure. But at a premium.

You still have those RA-R mirrors?

I absolutely do still have them, patiently waiting to snag a few more parts before getting around to getting them installed - they were worth the wait and price!

Personally, I thought they did a decent job on the RA-R, but agree that it wasn't as hardcore as the Spec C RA-R; I like the fact that they got a lot of weight out of the car though, but it could've been better.

So if you had to buy all the parts again, was there anything you'd skip based on what you know now?
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