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Old 11-11-2018, 08:41 AM   #1626
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Old 11-11-2018, 11:05 AM   #1627
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Tesla raises prices, cuts options to simplify its EV lineup

It's in the name of reducing costs and speeding up production.
Tesla has made good on its plan to cull options for its electric cars, and the changes are... mixed. Electrek has learned that Tesla has raised the prices of the Model S 75D and Model X 75D by $1,000 to $78,000 and $84,000 respectively, albeit with $500 price drops for their 100D counterparts (now $96,000 and $99,000). However, you now get the black Premium interior standard, with cream and white interiors costing $1,500 instead of the earlier $3,300. And it's what you don't see that may matter the most -- Tesla has scrapped a number of choices, including some drivers might like.

On the Model S, the automaker has scrapped the panoramic sunroof, rear-facing child seats and 21-inch black Arachnid wheels as options (you can still get the wheels as aftermarket parts). You'll only find the 72-amp onboard charger in "single phase" markets, too. Model X shoppers, meanwhile, will have to go without the six-seat configuration and the 72-amp charger option. Whichever car you choose, you now have just three interior options on most cars and two on the P100D variants.

Elon Musk wasn't shy about explaining move like this in October. It's about "simplifying production," which could both speed up deliveries and reduce costs. Those measures could help Tesla remain profitable and ease the pressure to step up Model 3 output.

https://www.engadget.com/amp/2018/11...ify-ev-lineup/
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Old 11-11-2018, 06:28 PM   #1628
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But seriously, y u no wagon Tesla? I think a lot of US Tesla customers would bite. Europe would eat them up. Come on.

Do a 3 wagon...
The upcoming model Y is the small SUV variant of the model 3, expected in 2020.
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Old 11-12-2018, 08:54 AM   #1629
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The roadster is going to be absolutely insane. I’m not really interested in any other Tesla, but am definitely getting a roadster. It’s performance should be so ridiculous that I can forgive the lack of engine noise.
Hopefully the seats are made from something other than vinyl.
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Old 11-12-2018, 07:38 PM   #1630
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Hopefully the seats are made from something other than vinyl.
Why? No one can tell that they are not leather and they feel great. No complains at all here.
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Old 11-12-2018, 07:56 PM   #1631
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Why? No one can tell that they are not leather and they feel great. No complains at all here.
How you’re not able to tell a difference is beyond me. But as long as you don’t mind, that’s all that matters. Point being, vinyl is cheap material and you’re paying a premium price for the vehicle.

Eventually there is going to be a point where most consumers will start to care less about “performance” of an everyday vehicle and expect more in term of interior quality, features, comfort, etc. Going with vinyl is just a way to cut costs while improving margin. I’d expect vinyl seats as an option a base crappy ford xl truck costing $25k. Not a car fetching north of $50k.
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Old 11-12-2018, 08:35 PM   #1632
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The Model 3 does have a sort of 3D printer look and feel to it.
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Old 11-12-2018, 09:38 PM   #1633
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How you’re not able to tell a difference is beyond me. But as long as you don’t mind, that’s all that matters. Point being, vinyl is cheap material and you’re paying a premium price for the vehicle.

Eventually there is going to be a point where most consumers will start to care less about “performance” of an everyday vehicle and expect more in term of interior quality, features, comfort, etc. Going with vinyl is just a way to cut costs while improving margin. I’d expect vinyl seats as an option a base crappy ford xl truck costing $25k. Not a car fetching north of $50k.
You're also paying for a "green" vehicle and many of the owners (more than most cars) don't want actual leather in the car It fits the demographics pretty well.
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Old 11-12-2018, 09:43 PM   #1634
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How you’re not able to tell a difference is beyond me. But as long as you don’t mind, that’s all that matters. Point being, vinyl is cheap material and you’re paying a premium price for the vehicle.

Eventually there is going to be a point where most consumers will start to care less about “performance” of an everyday vehicle and expect more in term of interior quality, features, comfort, etc. Going with vinyl is just a way to cut costs while improving margin. I’d expect vinyl seats as an option a base crappy ford xl truck costing $25k. Not a car fetching north of $50k.
My IS-F had leather seats but I find the model 3 seats more comfortable and they also feel cooler and refreshing for some reason. They are supposed to be really durable, will not fade or crack and from what I heard they I made from soy.

I got a trial for enchance autopilot and so far I am really impressed. Is really smooth and specially useful in the highway, traffic and on heavy rain. Summon is cool as hell although not necessary.
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You're also paying for a "green" vehicle and many of the owners (more than most cars) don't want actual leather in the car It fits the demographics pretty well.
I think you’re over estimating the amount of people who are buying Tesla purely for being as “green” as possible versus those that simply want latest and greatest with that little slice of exclusivity at the moment.
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Old 11-13-2018, 09:10 AM   #1636
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real leather? Pay more to virtue signal less? Come on...
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Hopefully the seats are made from something other than vinyl.
They'll have a kale option soon.
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They'll have a kale option soon.
Engrained kale dashboards. Fair trade, non gmo, certified organic.
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Old 11-19-2018, 12:28 PM   #1639
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Post Stealing a Tesla just got harder thanks to a new update


Last month, an unlucky Tesla owner managed to record his own Model S being stolen via a sneaky keyfob "relay" tablet hack, part of a wave of European thefts in which the vehicles were never recovered. Tesla has now fought back via a new Model 3 update that might not stop the original theft, but will make it possible for owners and police to track their stolen cars.

Thieves have been stealing Tesla and other vehicle brands for awhile via "relay attacks," which relies on the owners leaving their cars in passive entry mode. It senses the presence of the fob's signal, allowing drivers to enter their EVs without unlocking them. Enterprising thieves in both Europe and the US were boosting the signal from owners' fobs, often located in their house far away from the vehicle, using a tablet or other device.

As Electrek points out, US owners and police were able to track the vehicles and catch the guilty parties. In Europe, however, the thieves were sophisticated enough to deactivate mobile access, but with the latest update, you need a code to do that. As such, crooks won't be able to easily disable tracking and will need to quickly get out of GPS range before they're discovered.

The problem can be avoided altogether by deactivating passive entry mode, particularly when your car is outside or in a public spot. Lots of owners have been demanding the extra layer of security for mobile access mode, however, so this could curtail some thefts. With the update,Tesla also improved the Summon feature to allow its EVs to self-drive out of narrow parking spaces, and made its climate controls easier to use.

https://www.engadget.com/2018/11/19/...-theft-summon/
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