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Old 08-12-2003, 09:22 AM   #1
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Default Innocent man killed in street racing accident in MD

http://www.thewbalchannel.com/news/2395699/detail.html

Anne Arundel County police said Chelliah Johnson, 53, was hit as he was attempting to cross Laurel Fort Meade Road just before 9 pm Sunday.

Suspects are known to be driving a white and black Acura Integra racing on Rt. 198 in Laurel, MD. The guy worked at the Red Carpet Inn and was crossing the street to get food on his break and was struck by one of the 2 integras that were street racing. They were going fast enough to have thrown him over 225 ft and sever both legs and one of his arms. The police collected 7 peices of his body at the scene. Of course both integras took off....

If you see a black or white Integra with some front end damage, report it to police.

Now I hope no-one on this forum is stupid enough to street race so hopefully I am preaching to the choir, but if you do, or have even thought about it - STOP. You are not only putting yourself in danger (which I personally could care less about) but you are putting other, innocent people in danger of being victims of your retardation.
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Old 08-12-2003, 09:37 AM   #2
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What a bunch of 'tards...I'll keep an eye out. It's one thing to endanger yourself but it is another to hurt innocent people. It's tragic how stupid people can be these days. It also tragic that idiots like this have to ruin it for people who are generally law abiding citizens.
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Old 08-12-2003, 10:32 AM   #3
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I hope that not only street racers pay attention to this drastic display or irresponsibility but my wish is that pedestrians wise up and pay attention to whats going on around them in parking lots and when crossing a road.

I am so sick of people walking right out in front of me just because they think they have the right of way. If you step out in front a car you may have the right of way but that doesn't matter much when your dead! Its amazing how dumb people are sometimes.

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Old 08-12-2003, 10:53 AM   #4
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THe body parts wound up in front of my job Tischer Acura. As a matter of fact we found a small piece of the body after the cops left.........
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Old 08-12-2003, 11:09 AM   #5
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I'm sure they'll catch these guys. I hope they fry. In fact, I say an eye for an eye. Use their own car to run them over.
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Old 08-12-2003, 12:01 PM   #6
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THe body parts wound up in front of my job Tischer Acura. As a matter of fact we found a small piece of the body after the cops left.........
Would it be sick for me to ask which part?
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Old 08-12-2003, 12:22 PM   #7
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Would it be sick for me to ask which part?
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Old 08-12-2003, 12:48 PM   #8
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I think it would be apropriate in this case DON'T YOU !
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Old 08-12-2003, 12:59 PM   #9
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i hope the guy gets the death penalty. or at least life in prison with no parole. i am so sick of idiot ricers doing 150mph in their 18 second 2fast 2furios **** mobiles on public roads. i almost got nailed by one yesterday! that **** has to stop. that guy could have been my brother or my father. zero tolerance.
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Old 08-12-2003, 01:53 PM   #10
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Nothing shows sensitivity and sorrow like politicizing a tragedy.
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Old 08-12-2003, 02:37 PM   #11
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Not that I in any way support what happened, or think street racing is the best idea around. But the death penalty for street racing? Are you guys serious? I think some of you live in the wrong country. We need fewer laws not more, stuff like this gives politicians the reason to take away even more of our rights. Yes this is a tragic event, but its important not to overreact.
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Old 08-12-2003, 03:03 PM   #12
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Well, what if it was a different playground. What if it was a kid playing Russian Roulette with a pistol. Instead of pointing it at his own head, he was pointing it at someone else. He doesn't want to shoot the other person. He's just playing a game with a dangerous object.

Cars and guns are equally dangerous objects. They'll both kill whoever you point them at, or whoever happens to step in the way at the wrong time.

If one chooses to play a game with a dangerous object and kills someone in the process, that person is a danger to society and should be removed from it. That person obviously has really poor judgement.

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1) Sorry. I used 'you' instead of the more anonymous 'one'.
2) Death penalty for killing someone while street racing, not for street racing.

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Old 08-12-2003, 03:06 PM   #13
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They would probably be charged with involuntary manslaughter, and a slew of traffic offenses like hit and run, speeding, negligence, recless driving. I doubt that would be enough to get them execution or even life in prison but probably the good part of 20-30 years.

If they are minors I doubt they would be in jail for more then 10.
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Old 08-12-2003, 03:20 PM   #14
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Yeah, but my whole point is, what if I was there street racing in the same exact spot, 10 minutes before. I just happened to get lucky and not kill anyone. But we both did exactly the same thing. Doesn't really seem right to have 2 very different punishments, but it also doesn't seem right to throw everyone who street races in jail.
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Old 08-12-2003, 03:21 PM   #15
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Yeah, but my whole point is, what if I was there street racing in the same exact spot, 10 minutes before. I just happened to get lucky and not kill anyone. But we both did exactly the same thing. Doesn't really seem right to have 2 very different punishments, but it also doesn't seem right to throw everyone who street races in jail.
No you didn't do the exact same thing. The other guy killed someone. See my edit above.
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Old 08-12-2003, 03:32 PM   #16
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Yeah, but my whole point is, what if I was there street racing in the same exact spot, 10 minutes before. I just happened to get lucky and not kill anyone. But we both did exactly the same thing. Doesn't really seem right to have 2 very different punishments, but it also doesn't seem right to throw everyone who street races in jail.
and what if someone goes to the top of a clock tower with a automatic rifle and sprays a crowd of people with bullets. And by chance, no-one got hit. So under your reasoning, that person did the exact same thing as someone who just went up to check out the view, and shouldnt be punished or jailed.

ALL street racing should be punished with at least 1-2 years in jail, permanent license revocation, large fines, and vehicle seizure. In this case the offenders would aslo have manslaughter and a bunch of other charges piled on.
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Old 08-12-2003, 04:28 PM   #17
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The outcome wasn't the same obviously since someone died. But a chance event (someone walking into the street) shouldn't be the difference between a slap on the wrist and the death penalty, or a few years in jail, or whatever else you think should happen to this guy

My situation isn't the same as the one Evan put up above. The street racer has no intent to harm a person, where the guy spraying bullets does. I would say its more like someone who goes hunting for animals in an area where hunting is prohibited and accidently shoots a person. Bad judgement yes, malicious intent no.

I don't think it is realistic to take away anyone license for life for any reason. That will hardly stop someone from driving, so basically you are just going to keep throwing someone in jail over and over for driving a car. When the person wasn't a malicious criminal to begin with, just someone with poor judgement, and perhaps a bit immature. I think jail is a place for people with the intent to injure people, violent criminals and the like. We need to find another way to deal with other types of criminals, crowding up jails is not the answer.
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Old 08-12-2003, 04:39 PM   #18
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Whatever.

I would expect to pay the ultimate price if someone innocent died as a result of my negligent behavior.
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Old 08-12-2003, 04:53 PM   #19
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to borrow from the "arguing over the internet" joke, street racing is much like the special olympics. no matter who wins, you're still retarded.
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Old 08-12-2003, 05:08 PM   #20
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I would expect to pay the ultimate price if someone innocent died as a result of my negligent behavior.
I certainly don't know you, but I would venture that it is somewhat easier to make that claim in a discussion than it is to pay the bill should that extremely unfortunate situation ever occur.
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The outcome wasn't the same obviously since someone died. But a chance event (someone walking into the street) shouldn't be the difference between a slap on the wrist and the death penalty, or a few years in jail, or whatever else you think should happen to this guy

My situation isn't the same as the one Evan put up above. The street racer has no intent to harm a person, where the guy spraying bullets does. I would say its more like someone who goes hunting for animals in an area where hunting is prohibited and accidently shoots a person. Bad judgement yes, malicious intent no.

I don't think it is realistic to take away anyone license for life for any reason. That will hardly stop someone from driving, so basically you are just going to keep throwing someone in jail over and over for driving a car. When the person wasn't a malicious criminal to begin with, just someone with poor judgement, and perhaps a bit immature. I think jail is a place for people with the intent to injure people, violent criminals and the like. We need to find another way to deal with other types of criminals, crowding up jails is not the answer.
If taking someone's license away is the thing to do, maybe we should start by taking the old peoples' who keeps slowing traffic flow on the left lane. Along with those who are looking for streets or directions and slowing down at every block and the speed up because they're retarded. Those all have potentials of getting someone kill. What do you say to that? Where do we stop for stupidity? How about those who can't barely look over the steering wheel huh? Or reach the damn brakes when they need to? Do we want to keep going?

It's good to be safe and preach it but I think it depends on each and every case.

Let me give you another example. Someone was going into a light turning yellow, S/he speed up to get out of there. Because the pedestrian who THOUGHT it was safe, without checking, walks out on this car. The car ends up killing the person. Theorectically the car did the right thing even though he was speeding. Any bystander can say he was street racing because another car next to it did just the same. They COULD have been racing. Just like someone saying "high rate of speed", most people can't tell with a aftermarket exhaust, you could be doing the speed limit but sounds like it was speeding. Think about that.
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Old 08-12-2003, 06:35 PM   #22
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Bottom line...the guy killed an innocent person and he needs to pay...we should all at least agree on that.

BTW- Hey John...do you have grandparents? You sure have it out for the old peeps lol.
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Jackie,
I do, I've got one left.
If I was to get old and cannot drive properly. I will be willing to not endanger anyone else on the road by not driving. I know it would be convenient for me to drive myself in a huge crown Vic or Buick something or other and not get hurt. I would also claim that I mistaken the gas pedal as the brake when I mow down 10 people in one shot after leaving another scene of hit and run. No excuses, if we're going to make something out of it, men, women, children, young, old all have to obey the same laws. No double standards or "it's ok, he is old or she is cute" excuses.
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Old 08-12-2003, 06:55 PM   #24
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Whatever.

I would expect to pay the ultimate price if someone innocent died as a result of my negligent behavior.
so if got an itch on your leg and reached down to scratch it(when you should have dealt with the itch and kept looking at the road) as a pedestrian walks into the road and you strike him. You would expect to pay the ultimate price for that?
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I don't see what good it would do to throw this guy in jail for a long time. The criminal system should be focused on reform not for punishment. This person did not intend to kill anyone, putting him in jail isn't going to "teach" him not to kill again. It would just be a waste of time and money (our money the taxpayers) to put people like this in jail for a substantial amount of time.

I know everyone on here speeds at least some of the time, so think about this. Your going a little over the speed limit, some pedestrian steps out in front of your car and you kill him. You could very easily face the same charges as this guy is going to get. How many of you would be saying "please lock me up and throw away the key"?
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