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Old 11-09-2021, 10:38 AM   #3751
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Shouldn't have used "EV" instead of "Tesla". Everything else sucks, except maybe if you live in Norway.
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Old 11-09-2021, 01:00 PM   #3752
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The current argument now is "that's only to 80 to 90%!!" But how many fill their tanks to 100%. How many clicks does someone have to endure to get the gas to the rim of the filler tube.[/QUOTE]

This is a strange argument. A full tank of gas is not considered to the rim of a filler tube. I'm not aware of any manufacturer that claims a petrol based driving range is filling a car to the absolute brim. A full tank is when the gauge reads full and is at a the first click at the pump.
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Old 11-09-2021, 01:10 PM   #3753
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At this point the EV experience is not one of inconvenience, but luxury. Who could have seen that coming????
Seems like something easily said by a person driving a Model S performance...
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Old 11-09-2021, 01:29 PM   #3754
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This is a strange argument. A full tank of gas is not considered to the rim of a filler tube. I'm not aware of any manufacturer that claims a petrol based driving range is filling a car to the absolute brim. A full tank is when the gauge reads full and is at a the first click at the pump.
It is a weird argument, but also with some history behind it. The original example I saw was using the 2000-ish f250 and f350 trucks. The tanks could hold 30 gallons, but due to a design flaw the pumps would click at 22-24 gallons unless you let the pump trickle in and the gauge would never quite show full. Ford's fix was to change the gauge calibration.

So while the gauge was showing full, there was quite of bit of capacity ignored. The EVs could do the same if they wanted to show quick charging with the new 70+KWH batteries. They would still show over 300 miles of range, but the last 20% would be a waste of materials and capacity.
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Old 11-09-2021, 04:26 PM   #3755
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First Plaid in the 8's:

https://twitter.com/tomtharp/status/1457830909412061186
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Old 11-09-2021, 05:34 PM   #3756
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Seems like something easily said by a person driving a Model S performance...
Model 3 long range now goes 16 miles farther than my car, at 358. The cost is "average" among new cars.
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Old 11-10-2021, 04:16 PM   #3757
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Guess which one is the most efficient

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Old 11-11-2021, 03:07 PM   #3758
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Old 11-11-2021, 03:08 PM   #3759
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double post day!!
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Old 11-17-2021, 01:58 PM   #3760
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Took delivery of our 2022 Model 3 Performance. As a car enthusiast and having only driven manual transmissions for the last 15+ years, I thought I would hate driving the Tesla (besides the ridiculous acceleration). I was wrong.













And a couple of the QC issues...

Rear windshield install/alignment (driver side). This shouldn't be acceptable for a brand new car..







The passenger side headlight is also aligned very poorly and protrudes out. It's not even close to sitting flush on the bottom.

Soonest service appointment to fix the issues is 4+ weeks away. Luckily the Tesla dealership is only a few miles from my house.

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Old 11-17-2021, 02:46 PM   #3761
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That's not bad as it sounds like you got a good one for the most part as the headlight alignment is pretty common for these vehicles. At least the side view mirror plastic isn't delaminating, your steering wheel is aligned to the 12 o'clock position, doors aligned, rubber door seals all wavy, etc.
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Old 11-17-2021, 03:14 PM   #3762
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That's not bad as it sounds like you got a good one for the most part as the headlight alignment is pretty common for these vehicles. At least the side view mirror plastic isn't delaminating, your steering wheel is aligned to the 12 o'clock position, doors aligned, rubber door seals all wavy, etc.
Yeah, overall it's in better condition than I was expecting honestly. Delivery was faster than expected.. only 3 weeks.
  • Order placed on Oct. 23
  • VIN assigned on Nov. 10
  • Delivered on Nov. 13
I'll be getting PPF installed soon and then ceramic coating it like I did with the STI.
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Old 11-17-2021, 03:20 PM   #3763
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Took delivery of our 2022 Model 3 Performance. As a car enthusiast and having only driven manual transmissions for the last 15+ years, I thought I would hate driving the Tesla (besides the ridiculous acceleration). I was wrong.
The only thing better than a manual transmission is a car that's always in the correct gear.

Congrats!
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Old 11-22-2021, 02:03 PM   #3764
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. Data Shows Over 3 Million Tesla Cybertruck Orders, And It's Not Surprising
https://www.torquenews.com/1/data-sh...not-surprising
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Old 11-24-2021, 05:21 PM   #3765
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https://shop.tesla.com/product/model...amic-brake-kit

Tesla factory carbon brakes released.
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Old 11-24-2021, 05:37 PM   #3766
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That seems excessive, but it does include new calipers and such, and they're all massive parts, so $20k is about right.
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Old 11-24-2021, 06:42 PM   #3767
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That seems excessive, but it does include new calipers and such, and they're all massive parts, so $20k is about right.
I don't think is awful and I wish you could only get the front set. The current aftermarket carbon ceramics rotors are smaller and no as thick and the want 9-17k. I assume some steel upgrade from brakes front AP racing will cost $5k.


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Old 11-24-2021, 10:59 PM   #3768
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I don't think is awful and I wish you could only get the front set. The current aftermarket carbon ceramics rotors are smaller and no as thick and the want 9-17k. I assume some steel upgrade from brakes from AP racing will cost $5k.
Eh. 1000+ HP and extra weight in the rear, sounds like a bad idea. Can't find the specs for the Plaid, but it was already 48/52 distribution before.
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Old 11-26-2021, 12:15 PM   #3769
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Old 11-27-2021, 05:57 PM   #3770
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juan, just for the sake of fairness:


tl;dw: NASIOC's own Tim Stevens is kinda disgusted by Tesla's FSD scam and all the false braking events his car does.
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Old 11-28-2021, 09:48 AM   #3771
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juan, just for the sake of fairness:

We bought a Model Y. WE WISH WE HADNâ***8364;***8482;T - YouTube

tl;dw: NASIOC's own Tim Stevens is kinda disgusted by Tesla's FSD scam and all the false braking events his car does.
I didn't get FSD on my Plaid but I paid the subscription the other day because we were traveling for Thanksgiving. I was surprised that this car has more phantom braking than my Model 3 when going under some bridges.

To be fair that guy doesn't know what he is talking about. The FSD upgrade has nothing to do with what he mentioned. The currently FSD suit only adds summon, smart summon and stoping for stop signs and lights. The free basic autopilot suit sees phantom braking. He is also being over dramatic about autopilot and FSD being dangerous; free autopilot is in over 1M cars. Tesla autopilot data already shows that their cars have less accidents with their system activated by many times compared to a human driver and there is no point on debating that. Currently FSD is overpriced IMO but you do get the features available listed on their website so I don't see how it is a scam. Having FSD also adds some value to the car on trades. Whenever it work which might take a few years it will be worth gold.

I hope I can get the FSD beta this week with my subscription and try it out. I have a 99 driving score from my trip.

People think that Waymo or others are perfect but they are wrong :


Adding something like a Supercruise to a Cadillac will cost your over $4k because you have to chose an automatic transmission and it will only work on certain highways. And something like a Bluecruise cannot even take a slight sharp curve on the highway and will all the sudden disengage on the middle of the curve.

I hope that people take a look at the available feature breakdown for FSD before spending their $10k.

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Old 11-29-2021, 10:42 AM   #3772
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We bought a Model Y. WE WISH WE HADN’T - YouTube

tl;dw: NASIOC's own Tim Stevens is kinda disgusted by Tesla's FSD scam and all the false braking events his car does.
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Old 11-29-2021, 01:14 PM   #3773
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Tesla safety systems blind to camels :0
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Old 12-01-2021, 04:57 PM   #3774
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FSD is getting more impressive specially with 10.5. I really hope I get the beta in the weekend to try it out:



I have to take my car for service because I got a low coolant warning coming back from out trip but it says that I can keep driving it but to schedule a service appointment. I also found a nasty paint defect on the bottom of one of the doors and I think the only way to fix it is to repaint the door and I am thinking not doing anything because I don't want to have the car in the paint shop for weeks and I already had PPF installed . I am surprised I didn't notice the defect after washing the car and when I picked it up but it is not a small defect.

I will probably get more points for posting this article:

https://www.teslarati.com/porsche-wh...fires-coverup/

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A REMARKABLY SHORT WARRANTY
An apparent hint of Porsche's challenges with the Taycan's battery could be seen in the warranty for the all-electric sports car, which happens to be one of the lowest on the market with just 60,000 km or three years if following conditions (Porsche Warranty Requirements) are not met:

Vehicles standing longer than two weeks supposed to be connected to a charger

Customers must assure that the Taycan's state of charge remains between 20% - 50%
Customers must make sure that their Taycan is not exposed to continuous sunlight
Vehicles standing longer than two weeks not connected to a charger

Customers must charge the Taycan's battery before to 50%
Customers must check every three months and assure SoC remains at or above 20%
Customers must assure that their vehicle's temperature is between 0C - 20C
While 160,000 km is an average battery warranty in the industry, Porsche confirmed to me the 100,000 km lower, 60,000 km warranty and its restrictions.

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Old 12-01-2021, 05:27 PM   #3775
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Tesla safety systems blind to camels :0
https://youtu.be/vWty5LSS7-w
Pffft. That's just because the cameras haven't sent enough camel images back the the mothership. After a few thousand more camel strikes the algorithm should be able to pick them up***8230;***8230;.right??!!
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