2023 (?) Crosstrek

[JustyWRC]

Originally Posted by SCRAPPYDO

really are you confused, are you just trying to be clever and failing. Doing something different but ugly as an inflamed monkey's ass is not good. Quirky in a good way is one thing, like the Juke, or the Evoke.

this WRX is not Evoke quirky.

this WRX is Aztek ugly.


Big grand canyon sized difference in those things. You drew your Venn Diagram circles completely wrong.

People have complained Subarus were ugly for years. And would have said something similar to "Aztek ugly". And, yes, much of my statement is trolling; but, really not far off the mark. Just because certain people REALLY don't like this look. Is where I was at at the first site of the Bugeye. I've just been lucky enough Subaru hasn't made anything sooooo ugly to me I wouldn't buy it.

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[Straight6]

Don't feed the trolls. The WRX and Crosstrek look great. They are a huge success for Subaru and will continue to be so.

[4S-TURBO]

The WRX looks like **** and the Crosstrek looks appropriate for what it competes with.

[SCRAPPYDO]

Originally Posted by JustyWRC

People have complained Subarus were ugly for years. And would have said something similar to "Aztek ugly". And, yes, much of my statement is trolling; but, really not far off the mark. Just because certain people REALLY don't like this look. Is where I was at at the first site of the Bugeye. I've just been lucky enough Subaru hasn't made anything sooooo ugly to me I wouldn't buy it.

So you agree its but ugly, but you are just confident that Subaru buyers will cave and buy it anyway. Got it.

I recall the bugeye debut. It was glorious. People were excited. It was different than the GC8 but that blue commercial with the bug eye rallying, YOU KNOW THE ONE, changed the game. It was a complete paradigm shift. It was Revolutionary. People adored it.

This is the ugliest thing Subaru has ever made. The B9 tribeca was better looking than this car.

[chanomatik]

If I think a car is outright ugly, I'm not going to buy it no matter how well it drives. You'll never catch me driving a bugeye since that's the ugliest an Impreza has ever been in my eyes. Stock for stock, gun to my head, I'd take the 2022 WRX.

Mod to mod, though, all I'd need to do with the bugeye is swap the headlights with JDM ones or Morettes. 2022 WRX, however, needs a LOT more work.

[4S-TURBO]

Ovoid headlights were the only difference between the bugeye and the next two facelifts. Of which you owned. So per your tastes, one angle (the front), was ugly. Front side and rear are ****ed on the 2022 WRX.

[chanomatik]

However you need to compute it!

However, aftermarket could easily fix the 2022 WRX. Once companies get their hands on them, we'll see "body kits" left and right.

[JRodrigues]

Originally Posted by heavyD

Hexagonal wheel openings are an SUV styling cue

Lambo disagrees

[4S-TURBO]

Originally Posted by chanomatik

However you need to compute it!

However, aftermarket could easily fix the 2022 WRX. Once companies get their hands on them, we'll see "body kits" left and right.

Aftermarket?

But how bout those arch vents on the Crosstrek in the Crosstrek thread?

[JustyWRC]

Originally Posted by SCRAPPYDO

So you agree its but ugly, but you are just confident that Subaru buyers will cave and buy it anyway. Got it.

I recall the bugeye debut. It was glorious. People were excited. It was different than the GC8 but that blue commercial with the bug eye rallying, YOU KNOW THE ONE, changed the game. It was a complete paradigm shift. It was Revolutionary. People adored it.

This is the ugliest thing Subaru has ever made. The B9 tribeca was better looking than this car.

I actually like it. I gave the back end a good 10 minute look while I discussed things with the Subaru guy. It's odd; but, I'm not crying about it like the rest. Nor can I blame them either.......if that sounds weird enough.

As for the Bugeye. I'm sure people like it. I offend people now that have owned them. We have someone at the dealer that currently owns a Bugeye Impreza and "current" body WRX(dislikes the '22 as well). I just think people ultimately didn't care in 2002 because.............USDM WRX. FINALLY

[chanomatik]

Originally Posted by JRodrigues

Lambo disagrees

Originally Posted by 4S-TURBO

Aftermarket?

But how bout those arch vents on the Crosstrek in the Crosstrek thread?

FOR REAL. Gotta keep things cool when rockin' that Forester engine.

[4S-TURBO]

Originally Posted by chanomatik

FOR REAL. Gotta keep things cool when rockin' that Forester engine.

Aren't those fancy fender vents for bleeding pressure in the wheel wells when rock crawling at 1/2 mph?

An air outlet at the trailing edge of the front wheel opening allows air to exit from the wheel well more freely, contributing to reduced lift on the front tires and improved driving stability. Another air outlet added at each side of rear bumper reduces body sway due to air trapped behind the bumper.

NERD IT

[chanomatik]

Why not fender vent all the things?

[Bluefoton]

"contributing to reduced lift on the front tires and improved driving stability"

I love when engineering meets marketing BS.

Marketing: "Find me an effect for the vents"

Engineering: "at 130 mph, the airflow will result in an increased downforce by 12 microNewtons"

Marketing: "So it works!"

Engineering: "... which also happens if you add one tenth of a hundredth of ounce of windshield washer fluid..."

Marketing: "So it works!"

Engineering: "...and the simulations presumed mathematically impossible tires, no driver, no side-wind, a 2D infinite perfectly flat asphalt, and we neglected 89 variables whose contribution is 10 times the obtained results"

Marketing: "IT WORKS"

Bring on the flux capacitor and performance blinker fluid

[SCRAPPYDO]

Originally Posted by Bluefoton

"contributing to reduced lift on the front tires and improved driving stability"

I love when engineering meets marketing BS.

Marketing: "Find me an effect for the vents"

Engineering: "at 130 mph, the airflow will result in an increased downforce by 12 microNewtons"

Marketing: "So it works!"

Engineering: "... which also happens if you add one tenth of a hundredth of ounce of windshield washer fluid..."

Marketing: "So it works!"

Engineering: "...and the simulations presumed mathematically impossible tires, no driver, no side-wind, a 2D infinite perfectly flat asphalt, and we neglected 89 variables whose contribution is 10 times the obtained results"

Marketing: "IT WORKS"

Bring on the flux capacitor and performance blinker fluid

Lies
Damn Lies
Marketing

[Bluefoton]

Updated styling analysis video

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[Bluefoton]

double post

[blackseafleet]

Originally Posted by JustyWRC

Interesting over the years people chide Subaru for "becoming like every other car maker" and "loved" their old quirkiness; but, now seem to chide them for doing something different than any other car maker?

sorry you’re not getting a sales bonus from anyone in my family with all these new models. subaru has used the same excuse you just did since the mid 2000s while becoming even uglier. it’s not ‘quirky’, it’s plain awful design.

my brother supervises the manufacturing of these damn things and he would never consider owning a subaru from the last 8 years.

it’s telling.

ugly duckling swan songs for former buick owners.

they could do so much right and they choose not to. the crosstrek looks good and drives like hot garbage above sea level. this update is going to look even more bloated like when the forester moved to SGP

[JustyWRC]

Originally Posted by blackseafleet

sorry you’re not getting a sales bonus from anyone in my family with all these new models. subaru has used the same excuse you just did since the mid 2000s while becoming even uglier. it’s not ‘quirky’, it’s plain awful design.

my brother supervises the manufacturing of these damn things and he would never consider owning a subaru from the last 8 years.

it’s telling.

ugly duckling swan songs for former buick owners.

they could do so much right and they choose not to. the crosstrek looks good and drives like hot garbage above sea level. this update is going to look even more bloated like when the forester moved to SGP

Subaru is not the one claiming the quirkiness. That's statements from this site going back far longer than your join date. A bout models going back much further than the mid 2000s. And it's "telling" your brother wouldn't buy one? I've been to the factory. Lots of cars in the parking lot. I'd gander to say more that are not Subaru than were. Is that "telling" as well? Subaru only has 4% of the auto market. Is that "telling" as well?

[Pre]

Originally Posted by blackseafleet

ugly duckling swan songs for former buick owners.

I think they are for people who think they are off-road people, but never go off-road. That's who the target audience is. They off-road in their dreams. Reality is they sit in drive thrus everyday. But the car, the imagination that they have about it, is they are rock climbing with no rope. Driving their Crosswreck out to a desert with huge pieces of rock. Instead of climb, they make a little fire, and drink Bud Light Seltzers.

[R P]

Originally Posted by Pre

I think they are for people who think they are off-road people, but never go off-road. That's who the target audience is. They off-road in their dreams. Reality is they sit in drive thrus everyday. But the car, the imagination that they have about it, is they are rock climbing with no rope. Driving their Crosswreck out to a desert with huge pieces of rock. Instead of climb, they make a little fire, and drink Bud Light Seltzers.

Actually, what you describe applies more to Jeep owners. I know many that buy them for show, and have NEVER had them off-road.


On the other hand, most Crosstrek owners don't buy them for off-road, more for their ability to handle snow. What they don't realize, although many do discover, is just how good they are off-road.

[4S-TURBO]

[car_freak85]

Originally Posted by JustyWRC

I actually like it. I gave the back end a good 10 minute look while I discussed things with the Subaru guy. It's odd; but, I'm not crying about it like the rest. Nor can I blame them either.......if that sounds weird enough.

As for the Bugeye. I'm sure people like it. I offend people now that have owned them. We have someone at the dealer that currently owns a Bugeye Impreza and "current" body WRX(dislikes the '22 as well). I just think people ultimately didn't care in 2002 because.............USDM WRX. FINALLY

Justy, you're not remembering the '02 launch very well... People chided it for looking like the recently-released Neon. Magazines commented on the avant-garde shape of the tail lamps. The bugeye was NOT praised as beautiful when it released... BUT WE FINALLY HAD IT AND HOT DAMN, IT LIVED UP TO THE HYPE!

As an OG bugeye owner, I'd argue the bugeye styling really didn't start to trend as "classic" until the VA-chassis released.

[JustyWRC]

Originally Posted by car_freak85

Justy, you're not remembering the '02 launch very well... People chided it for looking like the recently-released Neon. Magazines commented on the avant-garde shape of the tail lamps. The bugeye was NOT praised as beautiful when it released... BUT WE FINALLY HAD IT AND HOT DAMN, IT LIVED UP TO THE HYPE!

As an OG bugeye owner, I'd argue the bugeye styling really didn't start to trend as "classic" until the VA-chassis released.

I remember it very well. Was itching at a Blaze Yellow being offered to me. But, 2 things kept me from ever even test driving one:

1. Bugeye(I was one of the complainers though I was thinking Corolla/Integra more than Neon.)

2. I just knew if they finally brought the WRX, then eventually they would the STi. So, I wasn't gonna waste my time. Patience is a virtue and 2 years later, I had the first STi in TN. The day I gave them my deposit(the day after the unveiling) on my sold order is the day I finally drove a WRX. Was very happy with my decision cause that was a fun drive.

It lived up to the hype cause what did we have before that? Nothing.......wasn't really hard.

[4S-TURBO]

Why not chide them for looking like 911 headlights?