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02-25-2007, 10:26 PM | #1 |
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Noble M12 to the US
Racing fans and weekend skidders know the Noble supercar as one ofSouth Africa's finer exports. Now, Ohio-based 1g Racing has secured rights to sell the Noble M12 GTO-3R and M400 in the U.S. The sales, though, will be chassis-only. The British-designed bodies, built in Port Elizabeth, South Africa , will be shipped without an engine or a transmission, as a component - albeit an assembled, painted, and upholstered one with brakes, suspension, wheels, and tires. A number of independent houses are ready to fit powertrains to the car, 1g says in a release. Their Web site suggests the Duratec V-6 found in the Mazda6 might be a good fit - after turbocharging and other mods. The outfit, near Cincinnati, can be found on the Web at www.1gracing.com.
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02-26-2007, 01:06 AM | #2 |
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hasnt this been the case for over a year? 1g gave you options on what you could have in terms of a powerplant.
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02-26-2007, 01:18 AM | #3 |
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wuz the point
anywhere you drive is gonna be illegal 2 fast for the speed limit in usa and why would you spend that much money just to park in the garage |
02-26-2007, 01:24 AM | #4 |
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I think an LS7 would be a nicer fit, personally. It'd be a shame to put a Ford-designed econo-v6 in a car like that, no matter what sort of FI you have in mind.
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02-26-2007, 08:40 AM | #7 |
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they are definatly legal... and you could always track it
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02-26-2007, 08:57 AM | #8 |
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And I don't even think you can get an M12 anymore. Thef irstwas an M12, then M12 3R etc. etc. There onto M400 now... |
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02-26-2007, 09:02 AM | #10 | |
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There's a reason why this car is LEGAL on US streets. There is a reason why this car is shipped over here complete minus engine and tranny, which is also known as turn-key minus in the kitcar industry. Because the car is shipped over without an engine and tranny, it's not really a running car and therefore doesn't have to go through all the federal BS that all the manufactures have to go through. Once an owner buys the "kit" and installs an engine and tranny from a different company, then it becomes a kit car and has special exemptions for safety. There are even companies that exist that will jump through all the DMV hoops for you to get your vehicle registered. Some will even promise to get your "Cobra" kits registered as a classic and exempt you from emission tests, but I think that loophole might be closed now. |
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Ive seen 4 on the roads around cincy over the past year. :shrug:
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02-26-2007, 01:32 PM | #12 | |
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Not sure an LS7 would fit transversely in the engine bay, it's a tight fit around the chassis rails LS7 gets better fuel economy, so perhaps it is the econo-motor Quote:
Car (M400) is shockingly fast |
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02-26-2007, 04:30 PM | #14 |
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In the past
I think 1G used to just be a DEALER for them. You ordered your car, and it came in assembled already. Maybe this is news in that you get a roller now, and you can put your own powertrain in it?
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The reason for the press release is that Noble plans to stop building them and move on to their new car. They have sold the production rights to build the car to 1G. So basically 1G can continue to build the cars even though Noble has stopped. 1G can now pursue making it US legal and not have it be a kit, but I imagine that is unlikely due to the cost fitting airbags, safety equipment and crash testing here is the full release Quote:
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02-26-2007, 07:43 PM | #17 |
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they do sound pretty bad IMO, 1G will never make the car US legal it will always be a kit car like you said thats just way to expensive. They could be really nice cars if you spent an extra 10k after the buying price to fix some of the slightly cheap parts on the car.
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my neighbor, and a buddy from home both have red M12's..
pretty cool minus the hyundai sonata tail lights. |
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One day i will own this kit car and have it legally driven around, this is one rare car i have yet to see traveling around so-cal, we seem to see all kinds of exotics... soon! |
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02-27-2007, 08:32 AM | #21 |
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most of the crimps fall apart at some time or another, the intercooler isnt even close to big enough for the airflow the turbos put out, the ecu and tune is almost embarrasing, the fuel pump is run with 20g wires.... dont get me wrong its a VERY nice car for the money and will put a lot of cars over twice as expensive to shame, the bodywork and paint is the best i have ever seen but there are some minor details that need attention.
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02-27-2007, 08:53 AM | #22 |
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Mopho, thanks for clearing things up. It makes sense now.
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02-27-2007, 02:26 PM | #23 | |
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Personally, I'd rather have a Noble kit car than a 1G production car. |
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02-27-2007, 03:16 PM | #24 | |
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02-27-2007, 07:07 PM | #25 |
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1G WILL NOT improve on the noble, they are responsible for the majority of the problems the car has including lack of warranty support
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