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11-14-2003, 01:46 AM | #1 |
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04 WRX fixed most of my Knock problems with UTEC. Just 2 problems now!
yay for me. I just dropped time -1 across the board (10-100) from 4700to5300 rpm.
Now I only got 2 problems 1) I still get knock when the control switches from ECU to UTEC. basically once in 1st, and once everytime I shift. 2) I get max boost at 4300rpms in 4th. ***!!! I know this has something to do with running too rich at the low RPMs. Leaner = higher EGTs = faster spool. So can I just do -10 across the board from 0rpms to 2750 rpms from 10-100? much thanks for all the help!!!!
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11-14-2003, 01:51 AM | #2 |
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oh and here's a 1st to 3rd redline run!
Code:
774 -9.4 1.3 1 00 00 15.1 +10.0 1.0 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 1.3 797 -9.1 1.3 1 00 00 15.2 +5.9 1.0 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 1.3 833 -9.1 1.5 5 00 00 15.1 +5.2 1.0 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 1.6 1103 -8.1 2.1 14 00 00 14.8 +4.8 3.0 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 2.0 1591 -6.5 2.0 15 00 00 14.5 +7.7 6.0 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 2.1 1975 -5.1 2.2 17 00 00 16.7 +11.4 8.0 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 2.2 2332 -3.6 2.4 25 00 00 15.3 +17.0 12.0 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 2.5 2643 -2.6 2.6 39 00 00 14.8 +22.6 17.0 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 2.6 2893 -1.8 2.8 53 00 00 13.2 +25.8 19.0 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 2.8 2984 -0.4 2.9 53 00 00 14.9 +23.2 21.0 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 3.0 3008 +1.1 3.0 53 00 00 14.2 +20.1 23.0 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 3.0 3112 +2.9 3.1 53 00 00 14.4 +17.3 26.0 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 3.2 3415 +4.7 3.2 58 00 00 14.2 +18.1 30.0 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 3.3 3809 +6.4 3.4 73 50 00 13.5 +17.5 34.0 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 3.5 4329 +8.2 3.6 100 50 00 14.8 +16.7 42.0 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 3.7 4714 +9.6 3.8 100 60 00 14.7 +18.0 52.0 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 3.9 5167 +10.6 4.0 100 70 00 14.8 +18.3 59.0 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 4.0 5630 +11.9 4.1 98 70 13 rich +20.8 98.0 +13.0 +0.5 80.00 4.1 6195 +12.3 4.1 99 70 00 rich +21.5 100.0 +14.5 +0.9 80.00 4.2 6313 +12.3 4.2 99 70 00 rich +24.6 100.0 +15.0 +0.8 80.00 4.2 6788 +12.3 4.2 81 60 00 rich +27.3 99.0 +23.0 +0.8 71.00 4.2 6242 +8.0 3.1 1 00 00 rich +39.4 13.0 ECU. +0.7 ECU. 3.5 7062 +5.7 3.9 99 10 00 rich +34.7 81.0 +25.0 +0.8 80.00 4.0 4734 +5.3 4.1 99 40 04 rich +11.4 93.0 +4.7 +0.5 80.00 4.0 4528 +5.9 3.8 99 60 00 rich +8.9 80.0 +1.0 +1.1 80.00 3.9 4516 +10.6 3.9 100 80 00 rich +9.6 86.0 +1.1 +1.1 80.00 4.0 4636 +13.3 4.0 99 80 00 rich +10.0 90.0 +9.6 +1.1 80.00 4.0 4734 +14.7 4.0 99 80 00 rich +10.3 93.0 +18.4 +0.9 80.00 4.0 4938 +15.5 4.1 99 90 00 rich +13.1 97.0 +18.9 +0.5 80.00 4.1 5159 +15.3 4.1 99 80 00 rich +12.9 100.0 +20.0 +0.4 80.00 4.1 5385 +15.5 4.1 100 80 00 rich +14.8 99.0 +20.0 +0.4 80.00 4.1 5668 +15.1 4.1 99 80 00 rich +15.9 99.0 +20.0 +0.5 80.00 4.2 5757 +13.9 4.2 99 70 00 rich +16.4 100.0 +21.0 +0.6 80.00 4.2 5984 +13.5 4.2 98 70 00 rich +16.8 100.0 +21.9 +0.7 80.00 4.2 6116 +12.7 4.2 100 70 00 rich +17.0 100.0 +22.5 +0.9 80.00 4.2 6265 +12.5 4.2 99 70 00 rich +18.7 100.0 +22.6 +0.8 80.00 4.2 6373 +12.3 4.2 99 70 00 rich +22.1 100.0 +23.0 +0.8 80.00 4.2 6485 +12.3 4.2 99 60 00 rich +23.0 100.0 +23.0 +0.7 80.00 4.2 6653 +12.1 4.2 99 70 00 rich +23.1 99.0 +23.0 +0.8 80.00 4.2 6802 +12.1 4.2 99 70 00 rich +23.8 99.0 +23.0 +0.9 80.00 4.2 6734 +11.0 3.9 1 00 00 rich +10.3 32.0 ECU. +0.8 ECU. 3.7 7122 +10.0 4.0 100 40 00 12.8 +31.2 80.0 ECU. +0.8 ECU. 3.9 5282 +9.0 4.0 100 50 01 rich +16.0 90.0 +5.0 +0.2 80.00 4.0 5089 +9.2 4.0 100 60 00 rich +13.7 90.0 +4.7 +0.4 80.00 4.0 5065 +11.0 4.1 99 80 00 rich +13.5 98.0 +4.0 +0.4 80.00 4.1 5192 +12.5 4.1 99 80 00 rich +15.3 99.0 +20.0 +0.4 80.00 4.1 5291 +14.5 4.1 99 80 00 rich +15.2 99.0 +20.0 +0.4 80.00 4.2 5411 +14.5 4.1 99 80 00 rich +15.5 99.0 +20.0 +0.4 80.00 4.1 5446 +14.5 4.1 99 80 00 rich +16.3 99.0 +20.0 +0.5 80.00 4.1 5509 +14.5 4.1 98 80 00 rich +16.9 100.0 +20.0 +0.5 80.00 4.2 5611 +13.9 4.1 99 70 00 rich +16.8 100.0 +21.0 +0.5 80.00 4.2 5737 +13.9 4.2 99 70 00 rich +16.8 100.0 +21.0 +0.8 80.00 4.2 5747 +13.9 4.2 99 80 00 rich +17.2 100.0 +20.1 +0.7 80.00 4.2 5952 +13.3 4.2 99 70 00 rich +17.5 100.0 +21.5 +0.7 80.00 4.2 5952 +13.1 4.2 99 70 00 rich +17.9 100.0 +21.8 +0.9 80.00 4.2 6049 +12.5 4.2 99 70 00 rich +19.3 100.0 +22.1 +0.9 80.00 4.2 6116 +12.1 4.2 99 70 00 rich +19.5 100.0 +22.6 +0.9 80.00 4.2 6218 +12.7 4.2 98 70 00 rich +19.5 100.0 +22.7 +0.9 80.00 4.2 6253 +12.9 4.2 99 80 00 rich +22.7 100.0 +22.0 +0.9 80.00 4.2 6349 +13.5 4.2 99 70 00 rich +22.7 100.0 +23.0 +0.8 80.00 4.2 6459 +13.5 4.2 98 70 00 rich +23.1 100.0 +23.0 +0.8 80.00 4.2 6535 +12.5 4.2 99 60 00 rich +23.5 100.0 +23.0 +0.7 80.00 4.3 6574 +12.5 4.2 99 70 00 rich +23.6 100.0 +23.0 +0.8 80.00 4.3 6640 +11.9 4.2 99 70 00 rich +24.1 100.0 +23.0 +0.8 80.00 4.2 6706 +11.9 4.2 99 70 00 rich +24.3 100.0 +23.0 +0.8 80.00 4.2 7002 +11.9 4.3 92 70 00 rich +25.2 11.0 +23.0 +0.1 80.00 4.3 6915 +9.0 3.6 1 00 00 lean +10.4 24.0 ECU. +0.8 ECU. 3.5 6561 +3.9 3.3 1 00 00 12.1 +10.4 37.0 ECU. +0.7 ECU. 3.3 6105 -2.0 3.2 1 00 00 16.1 +8.5 41.0 ECU. +0.8 ECU. 3.2 5668 -7.5 3.1 1 00 00 rich +8.5 37.0 ECU. +0.3 ECU. 3.1 5350 -10.8 3.0 1 00 00 19.2 +8.9 37.0 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 3.0 4975 -11.4 2.9 1 00 00 lean +8.6 37.0 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 2.9 4547 -11.8 2.8 1 00 00 lean +8.7 37.0 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 2.8 4391 -11.8 2.7 1 00 00 24.2 +8.9 37.0 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 2.6 3422 -11.8 2.4 1 00 00 lean +9.1 37.0 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 2.0 3501 -11.6 2.2 1 00 00 lean +11.2 37.0 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 2.1 3561 -11.4 2.0 1 00 00 24.0 +11.3 37.0 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 2.0 3508 -11.6 2.0 1 00 00 24.0 +11.2 37.0 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 1.9 |
11-14-2003, 04:07 AM | #3 |
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Maybe pull some timing in the 5200-5500 range?? Looks like the transition from factory to UTEC timing really quick like that 13 knock count in first is too big. Id say try pulling 2 degrees at and taper to the surrounding areas. But, I am far from a tuner so dont expect it to be perfect. That is just a ROUGH GUESS.
Does anyone agree with me? RJ |
11-14-2003, 10:19 AM | #4 |
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Kitbar,
Take the lowest timing values from 5000-9000rpms and copy them to the 0% column starting at 5000rpm. Do the same for the fuel map; copy the highest fuel values from the 5000-9000rpm boxes to the 0% column. Hope that helps... Cheers! |
11-14-2003, 10:49 AM | #5 |
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Well, thats a good idea. I didnt really think of that. Haha
RJ |
11-14-2003, 11:09 AM | #6 |
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Hey guys thanks for the suggestions, I'm gonna try it. Basically match the timing values for ECu and UTEC to prevent a big jump in timing. awesome.
Also I was wrong about boost not coming till 4.5k rpm. I did some test runs in 3rd and 4th this morning. It was a bit warmer. I got full boost at 3.1k rpm! Yay! But I got a huge huge smell of gasoline whenever I floored it at that RPM in 3rd and 4th. Is that normal? |
11-14-2003, 12:18 PM | #7 |
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Gasoline smell? Hmmm, I know the base maps are pig rich but I've never encountered any gasoline smell when going WOT...
Your IDCs are pegged at 100%. You might want to reduce the amount of fuel. Although I don't recommend doing so without a wideband O2 sensor to measure your true AFR. When I reduced my AFR to 11.5, my IDCs maxed at 89%. This varies from car to car so take it with a grain of salt. Taking your car to a tuner is money well spent. Most will be able to wring out more HP than you ever imagined possible. Cheers! |
11-14-2003, 12:42 PM | #8 | |
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Yes, I am thinking of going to a tuner about 4 hrs away on the thanksgiving week. I am concerned because if I get it tuned, will the turboxs permanant fix for the 04 rex cause my tuned maps to be worthless? I think the permanant fix should make the 04 rex go rich immediately when you go WOT rather than waiting a few seconds. Is that right?
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11-14-2003, 11:46 PM | #9 |
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No, the tune will not make your tuned map worthless because your tuner will come up with a new map. You can even ask him to make you 2 maps... ex. one performance and one economy.
Yes, the permanent fix is supposed to do that but seems like it's going to be a while before it comes out. Cheers! |
11-15-2003, 07:37 AM | #10 |
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Kit,
FYI, I've been getting knock like crazy the last two weeks, when I was never getting it before. I've narrowed it down to 'winterized gas' from the BP/Amoco station I fill up at. |
11-15-2003, 11:23 AM | #11 | |
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