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04-08-2007, 04:27 PM | #51 |
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Well, they were pretty busy for MY2008, with the Impreza launch, and Tribeca and Legacy refreshings.
So, maybe for MY2009. The Legacy will be due for a new version probably for MY2010 anyway.
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04-12-2007, 05:12 PM | #52 |
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cobb tuning has a twin turbo of this going already
i forget exactly where i saw this, but cobb tuning is building an ez. they already hit the 1000hp mark. i thought someone would have posted this info by now. they are working on developing a twin turb for it. ill see if i cant find it between being overwhelmed with work and being overwhelemed with work.
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04-12-2007, 05:36 PM | #53 | |
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I ran my Turbocharged EZ30R WRX at Subiefest, and it seemed to be working pretty good. Cheers, Jeff Sponaugle |
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04-12-2007, 05:42 PM | #54 |
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04-12-2007, 06:23 PM | #55 |
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^^^^^^^^^^quit ruining everyones thunder with facts. Next thing you know the thread will be moved to OT.
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04-12-2007, 08:35 PM | #56 | |
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I'm just not interested in turboing everything like most people are. I'd rather see the full potential of the EZ's in N/A form. |
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04-12-2007, 08:49 PM | #57 |
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^ And I'm willing to drop my car off at PDXTuning to have them find the full potential of the EZ in N/A form.
My wallet just has reservations about the idea. |
04-12-2007, 08:49 PM | #58 |
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That's the perrin motor.
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04-12-2007, 09:35 PM | #59 | ||
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The pictures of the sleeved is from Perrin's H6. We both have turbo H6's in our cars. Mine is not sleeved, but has the same Pauter rods, Supertec pistons (8:1 CR), and Supertec valve springs. I also put in some custom supertec exhaust valves (which weren't available when JeffP built his. I was just giving you a hard time about saying it is hard to turbo in jest. It of course is somewhat challenging. Perrin had a failure related to the crank bearing, and I had a failure with a stock rod (before switching to the Pauter rods). The rod failure was something I expected at the power level, as those stock rods are even smaller then the WRX ones. We are still activly working to figure out the real limits. I did race my car this last weekend, and it is holding up pretty well. I'll be keeping a close eye on things as we push the platform farther. Putting a turbo EZ30R in an Impreza is an expensive way to make HP, and that is one of the reasons we have not experimented on a customer car. Quote:
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04-12-2007, 09:52 PM | #60 |
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Thanks for the detailed response. Its sad it takes so much work for the motor, but oh well, Subaru didnt really design it like they did the EJ's... I just wish the ECU wasnt such a pain to deal with so a swap would be easier to do
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04-12-2007, 11:00 PM | #62 |
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yes they have. I can't say for the handful of other people with successful swaps, but read through Perrin's write-up about his swap. he specifically mentions adding the AVCS in.
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04-13-2007, 12:20 AM | #63 | |
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04-13-2007, 02:48 AM | #64 | |
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and as far as I've been able to understand, the lump in the cam sprocket is from the AVLS, which allows for the numerous cam profiles. |
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04-13-2007, 06:27 AM | #65 |
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That would be great in my outback for wheelin' machine...
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I do wonder if one would be reasonably close if one started with the AVCS map from an STI, since I think the capability is out there to read that map. Intake cam timing will obviously be different for a turbo application than for a N/A application, but I would think it would at least be a good starting point. Quote:
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Pat: I'll include you on the email discussions as well. Cheers Jeff Sponaugle |
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04-13-2007, 12:29 PM | #69 | |
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04-13-2007, 01:45 PM | #70 | ||
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I haven't looked around much, but I'd be surprised if one could find an accurate weight for a complete EJ20 or EJ25 (with turbo and intercooler and stuff). Quote:
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So, the EZ36 has AVCS on the exhaust side too? but not AVLS? or maybe both? huh....now I'm really confused |
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If you search for "AVLS" in the Normally Aspirated forum Kostamojen posted a PDF description that explains how the AVLS works. The cams don't move forward and backward, there are two sets of lobes and the lifters have two parts to them corresponding to the high and low lift lobes.
Strictly based on what I've read here on NASIOC, the 3.6 has AVCS on both intake and exhaust. I haven't specifically seen any mention of AVLS on the 3.6, but I'd be rather surprised if they did away with it. The press release talks about "improving low end torque without sacrificing top end power", and having variable lift cams certainly helps to do that. Pat Last edited by Patrick Olsen; 04-13-2007 at 04:51 PM. |
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With the lack of AVLS, it may be eaiser to get custom cams made. Also, the bucket weight is MUCH less without the AVLS stuff, and that may help to extend the redline a bit. Jeff Sponaugle |
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