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Old 03-12-2008, 03:08 AM   #1
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Default How does the automatic tranny compare to the manual?

For those who've driven both, how is the auto? Is there more turbo lag, how's acceleration? How's the tranny shift, is it responsive? Just wondering, I'd like to drive an auto but I'm happy with my manual.
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Old 03-12-2008, 03:18 AM   #2
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Search is your friend

Seriously though...check out the Transmission Forum and then just type "4eat" into the (search this thread) link. Works like a charm.
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Old 03-12-2008, 02:11 PM   #3
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<<< they suck ,the exeception is that they don't break like the 5mt when abused and with a VB and TC mod they are good for drag racing
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Old 03-12-2008, 02:24 PM   #4
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This question like asking what sex is like with and without a condom ...
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Old 03-12-2008, 02:31 PM   #5
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My advice : DO NOT buy turbo car with 4eat
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Old 03-12-2008, 02:33 PM   #6
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This question like asking what sex is like with and without a condom ...
actually the analogy totally makes sense.

without - faster and more satisfying
with - longer lasting and reliable

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Old 03-12-2008, 03:00 PM   #7
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actually the analogy totally makes sense.

without - faster and more satisfying
with - longer lasting and reliable

LOL
add to that...

without - more likely to cost you ALOT of money sometime in the future
-somewhat particular about fluids
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Old 03-13-2008, 12:40 PM   #8
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The auto is piss-poor for performace. The automatic that i drove, 2005 i believe, felt like a normal car. It was harder to spool the turbo and wasn't nearly as fun to drive. If i test drove the automatic at the dealership instead of the stick, I wouldn't have bought my WRX.

And +1 to the comment about a 4EAT being like sex with a condom. What's the point? You sure can't feel anything with the auto or the condom.
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Old 03-13-2008, 12:54 PM   #9
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This question like asking what sex is like with and without a condom ...





Auto is slower, but that is expected. You're less 'involved', but the ease of operation in stop-and-go traffic is undeniable.

For me, I like manual. It's simply more fun.
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Old 03-13-2008, 12:59 PM   #10
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you could ask all the 5MT drivers that i beat in STX class
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Old 03-13-2008, 01:00 PM   #11
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^^^
I MUCH prefer a manual in stop and go traffic to an automatic. But that's just me.

I don't know why anyone would prefer an automatic WRX to a manual, but if you really want an automatic, my advice is to drive one and see if you like it!
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Old 03-13-2008, 01:02 PM   #12
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I'm not saying the 4EAT is better, I'm just saying its not as bad as people make it out to be.
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Old 03-13-2008, 01:18 PM   #13
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Prepare for battle!

Here comes the AUTO bots!
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Old 03-13-2008, 03:13 PM   #14
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i knew this mexican girl in high school that had a automatic wrx. ye good oh maria, she liked to ride in my car har har har... lol
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Old 03-13-2008, 03:21 PM   #15
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I'm not saying the 4EAT is better, I'm just saying its not as bad as people make it out to be.
It really isn't.
My completely stock 02 4eat wagon ran a 14.55 at the strip and keeps up with manual rexs auto xing, just it's a tad more difficult to keep it in the powerband at lower speeds because of the longer gears
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Old 03-13-2008, 07:06 PM   #16
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The auto is piss-poor for performace. The automatic that i drove, 2005 i believe, felt like a normal car. It was harder to spool the turbo and wasn't nearly as fun to drive. If i test drove the automatic at the dealership instead of the stick, I wouldn't have bought my WRX.

And +1 to the comment about a 4EAT being like sex with a condom. What's the point? You sure can't feel anything with the auto or the condom.

That's actually not true . . . if you down shift the auto by hand it can be just as fast as a manual. It's only if you leave it in D all the time does it get annoying.

I won my class this season (with two 1st, and a 2nd) at my local 2007 summer rallyx. There were about 15 or 20 other competitors (including 5 or 6 regulars who came to every event) who were mostly in manual GC's and RS's. My car . . . a largely stock 4EAT TS. Driving an automatic well takes time to learn, just like driving a manual well. There's a stigma attached to automatics that largely stems from the 1970's and 80's American automatics which were slow and heavy and usually only had 3 gears. They've come a long way since then. Most people who say "autos suck" usually just haven't taken the time to learn how to drive one properly.
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That's actually not true . . . if you down shift the auto by hand it can be just as fast as a manual. It's only if you leave it in D all the time does it get annoying.

I won my class this season (with two 1st, and a 2nd) at my local 2007 summer rallyx. There were about 15 or 20 other competitors (including 5 or 6 regulars who came to every event) who were mostly in manual GC's and RS's. My car . . . a largely stock 4EAT TS. Driving an automatic well takes time to learn, just like driving a manual well. There's a stigma attached to automatics that largely stems from the 1970's and 80's American automatics which were slow and heavy and usually only had 3 gears. They've come a long way since then. Most people who say "autos suck" usually just haven't taken the time to learn how to drive one properly.
The truth, you speak it.
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Old 03-14-2008, 11:51 AM   #19
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The auto is piss-poor for performace. The automatic that i drove, 2005 i believe, felt like a normal car. It was harder to spool the turbo and wasn't nearly as fun to drive. If i test drove the automatic at the dealership instead of the stick, I wouldn't have bought my WRX.

And +1 to the comment about a 4EAT being like sex with a condom. What's the point? You sure can't feel anything with the auto or the condom.
The auto is a bit laggy on the 2.0L.

On the 2.5L WRX, I don't mind it at all!

There is more than enough grunt from the extra 1/2 liter, as well as AVCS, to get the car moving quickly.

If it is like a condom, it's one of those "ultra thin" jobbies. Smooth as silk, and tougher than you think.

If you get an auto, get a 2.5L, not the 2.0.

The difference is huge.

Don't listen to the haters! Auto has its merits.

Now, when I drive around town on my phone, I don't have to tell people, "Hold on, I have to take a turn and downshift."

And I can drink a soda and drive without spilling it on my tie!

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you could ask all the 5MT drivers that i beat in STX class
You going to the meet in ILM this weekend?

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Old 03-14-2008, 06:27 PM   #21
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I have a 2005 9-2X Aero with 4eat, it was my first car, graduation present, my dad insisted on a 5spd, but idk why I pussied out of it. For the first 1.5 years I simply hated the car without any mods, then I was Stage 1 for about 3 months, before finally going Stage 2 in the summer along with a Protune, it's a completely different car. But still my next car will be a manual, no matter what.
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Old 03-14-2008, 06:46 PM   #22
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4eatme tranny is good for city driving. it keeps pace better with other cars than the 5eatme tranny. the 5eatme tranny always likes to go to the next higher gear thus making the car go faster during 25mph to 40mph traffic driving.



if you live in the "sticks" and have both legs go for the 5 speed manual; it'll be more fun.


if you're an old fart go with the auto.


if you're a cheap bastard save the money and take the manual.


if you're a cheap old fart buy a used civic
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Old 03-14-2008, 07:28 PM   #23
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actually the analogy totally makes sense.

without - faster and more satisfying
with - longer lasting and reliable

LOL
lol awesome.
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Apples to Oranges
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Old 03-15-2008, 12:42 AM   #25
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Not really... We're comparing the exact same car with a different transmission. Only one variable. So like comparing 2 different kinds of apples.
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