2022 Subaru WRX Official Announcement *Merged*

[SCRAPPYDO]

Originally Posted by dwf137

There are always factors of safety built in to everything that's made. Always. But no manufacturer will go on record telling you that you can use up that factor of safety because it's there to account for manufacturing and material tolerances...

I work on the Artemis Propulsion Program for NASA. I promise you we have safety Margins, but you would be shocked at how close some things come, just because of weight limits and how much protection redundancy gets us.

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[samagon]

Originally Posted by SCRAPPYDO

never miss a chance to post pics of my babies

which one tows the other?

[deanstevenson]

Originally Posted by SCRAPPYDO

never miss a chance to post pics of my babies

That's a stunning Roadster. Just wow.

[rallly 4]

Beautiful roadster. How do you like it

[SCRAPPYDO]

I adore the Roadster, but I am also selling it.

The roadster is a rare 2000.

It has the complete Datsun Comp C package as well.
Twin Webers (was originally Mikunis), the C cam and exhaust, and the 8 quart aluminum oil pan with windage tray installed from the factory.

It has Koni shocks and Datsun performance coils/leaf springs on it.

She drives beautifully and starts every single time. It has a 5 speed which makes it a joy even on the freeway.

[Kostamojen]

Updated the chart for October:



Added two new columns for aprox. Number of Dealerships per brand, and the aprox. Number of Cars available per dealership...

WRX inventory continues to climb, along with the Corvette and GTI. The WRX has one of the highest "Cars per dealership" numbers of all its competition, averaging over 6 cars per dealership at this point.

[timpala11]

Only people that want a VB over a GRC either can’t afford it (like when I got my 19 FA WRX instead of an STI) or don’t care. Wtf wants a sedan these days, it is blowing my mind. As a new homeowner that is close to paying off my 15 yo STI, even I have had delusional thoughts of settling for a VB as a daily. But that’s because I know I can get one for cheap as hell as opposed to a GRC. Even then I’m not willing to pay that much for something I don’t want, but oh well 1st world worst world for me.


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[samagon]

that's kind of crazy that there's more Golf Rs available that GR Corolla.

if VW stuck to similar production numbers as they did for 2023, then over half the 2024 production is still sitting on lots?

did they ramp production for the Golf R?

[dwf137]

Originally Posted by samagon

that's kind of crazy that there's more Golf Rs available that GR Corolla.

if VW stuck to similar production numbers as they did for 2023, then over half the 2024 production is still sitting on lots?

did they ramp production for the Golf R?

Not all that crazy, imo. The Golf R is a significantly different car, and constantly gets unnecessary bad reviews from the journos, meanwhile they're all drooling over the grc. The R is clearly the better car, but everyone buys the garbage that it's "disconnected", or whatever. Also, dct only blows.

[Kostamojen]

Originally Posted by samagon

that's kind of crazy that there's more Golf Rs available that GR Corolla.

if VW stuck to similar production numbers as they did for 2023, then over half the 2024 production is still sitting on lots?

did they ramp production for the Golf R?

IMO the current gen Golf R isn't selling as fast as the MK7's due to the infotainment compaints.

So whats happening is, the boat shows up with the big shipment which only comes a couple times a year for Golf R's, and the inventory jumps and then slowly drops as the shipment sells over like 3-4 months.

The GR Corolla seems to get more shipments since Toyota sends A LOT more boats from Japan then VW sends from Germany (a lot of their models are built in this hemisphere now) and sells at a consistent rate.

That means any given month depending on the VW shipment, there can be plenty of or almost no Golf R's in stock while the GR Corolla maintains a steady low inventory number.

Originally Posted by dwf137

. Also, dct only blows.

The 2025s that are DCT only haven’t hit lots yet, these are still 2024s. Half of the current Golf R inventory are manuals.

[JustyWRC]

Originally Posted by Kostamojen

IMO the current gen Golf R isn't selling as fast as the MK7's due to the infotainment compaints.

So whats happening is, the boat shows up with the big shipment which only comes a couple times a year for Golf R's, and the inventory jumps and then slowly drops as the shipment sells over like 3-4 months.

The GR Corolla seems to get more shipments since Toyota sends A LOT more boats from Japan then VW sends from Germany (a lot of their models are built in this hemisphere now) and sells at a consistent rate.

That means any given month depending on the VW shipment, there can be plenty of or almost no Golf R's in stock while the GR Corolla maintains a steady low inventory number.

The 2025s that are DCT only haven’t hit lots yet, these are still 2024s. Half of the current Golf R inventory are manuals.

I feel left out. I have STILL yet to see a GRC anywhere here.

[SpectralOoze]

Originally Posted by timpala11

Only people that want a VB over a GRC either can't afford it (like when I got my 19 FA WRX instead of an STI) or don't care. Wtf wants a sedan these days, it is blowing my mind. As a new homeowner that is close to paying off my 15 yo STI, even I have had delusional thoughts of settling for a VB as a daily. But that's because I know I can get one for cheap as hell as opposed to a GRC. Even then I'm not willing to pay that much for something I don't want, but oh well 1st world worst world for me.


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I disagree. For MSRP, sure. But the other factor that sent me to the VB was Texas Toyota dealers are full of the most arrogant salesmen I've ever met. I got "lucky" enough to find a GRC at MSRP, and the experience was such a drag that I ultimately grew to hate the idea of bothering anymore. I was trying to buy one for almost a year and a half. I work hard enough as it is, spending my off days dealing with some guy who hates his job is just an insufferable experience. I couldn't even test drive a GRC during that period. Final straw was the subtle insinuations I "couldn't afford" the car, because these clowns can't handle being called out for shady misrepresentation of online pricing etc. The whole experience was sour and I just got over the idea of trying to get in the seat of a GRC.

I got my VB for a killer deal and it's been a wonderful experience. My friend was fortunate enough to have the patience to buy a GRC, but I also haven't been able to drive it. It mostly sits in his garage so he can stare at it, I guess. the GRC seems dope, but in my opinion it isn't special enough for a markup, and getting VB under sticker at 1.9% just feels like highway robbery. Plus it hasn't caught on fire either way, I just saw no point in stressing myself out to get a novelty piece that's ultimately going to be a worse daily driver and primary vehicle. I don't feel like I settled. the VB is great. full stop.

[jimbobjohnbrown]

DAYUMMM!

https://www.motor1.com/news/735814/s...sales-tanking/

The late model year changeover is a real thing, but those numbers are bad.

[SoDealer]

Once again. SBR will continue to shrink WRX and BRZ sales on purpose regardless of demand

[KC]

Originally Posted by jimbobjohnbrown

DAYUMMM!

https://www.motor1.com/news/735814/s...sales-tanking/

The late model year changeover is a real thing, but those numbers are bad.

Umm, can someone tell me what 3,23 is?

Also, How many days were they on the lots? Didn't they supplant the production of BRZ for new foresters?

[jimbobjohnbrown]

Originally Posted by KC

Umm, can someone tell me what 3,23 is?

LMFAO, I just noticed that!

... I'm guessing it's supposed to be 1,329. Edit: 2,323

[samagon]

Originally Posted by SoDealer

Once again. SBR will continue to shrink WRX and BRZ sales on purpose regardless of demand

based on the chart that Kosta has been providing and updating that's not what I'm seeing at all.

the inventory on lots for the previous months has continued to increase, you'd think if Subaru were shrinking both that the inventory would be shrinking, rather than growing?

in the case of the BRZ it does however make a bit of sense that they are devoting more time on the assembly line to GR86 instead of BRZ, considering the volume of both cars, but regardless, they still have growing inventory...

[Snow Drift]

Originally Posted by KC

Umm, can someone tell me what 3,23 is?

Also, How many days were they on the lots? Didn't they supplant the production of BRZ for new foresters?

3,23 is supposed to be "2,323" for YTD Sep 2024.

https://media.subaru.com/pressreleas...-sales-results

[timpala11]

Originally Posted by SpectralOoze

I got my VB for a killer deal and it's been a wonderful experience. My friend was fortunate enough to have the patience to buy a GRC, but I also haven't been able to drive it. It mostly sits in his garage so he can stare at it, I guess. the GRC seems dope, but in my opinion it isn't special enough for a markup, and getting VB under sticker at 1.9% just feels like highway robbery. Plus it hasn't caught on fire either way, I just saw no point in stressing myself out to get a novelty piece that's ultimately going to be a worse daily driver and primary vehicle. I don't feel like I settled. the VB is great. full stop.

I guess my post was a little too unfair to the VB. I will say to your point that Toyota financing was ridiculous when I looked, something like 10% for the GRC (lol gtfoh with that). I haven’t test driven one as I am not really in the market for now, but I assume it is a better daily than my STI, and I’m sure the VB is even nicer to DD. I’m still pissed at no hatch and the factory performance, but it is what it is. I don’t even really care about the plastic tbh, eye of the beholder etc.

I can definitely afford a VB before a GRC (especially if I keep the STI which has been pissing me off lately) but personally I would be settling. But whatever I can get to daily I will bc the STI is taxing on my dumb perfectionist self. Glad you’re enjoying your VB!


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[JustyWRC]

Originally Posted by jimbobjohnbrown

DAYUMMM!

https://www.motor1.com/news/735814/s...sales-tanking/

The late model year changeover is a real thing, but those numbers are bad.

Originally Posted by samagon

based on the chart that Kosta has been providing and updating that's not what I'm seeing at all.

the inventory on lots for the previous months has continued to increase, you'd think if Subaru were shrinking both that the inventory would be shrinking, rather than growing?

in the case of the BRZ it does however make a bit of sense that they are devoting more time on the assembly line to GR86 instead of BRZ, considering the volume of both cars, but regardless, they still have growing inventory...

To be fair, I believe 4 to 1 was the original plan. The BRZ just did much better in the beginning and held on pretty good.

[samagon]

Originally Posted by JustyWRC

To be fair, I believe 4 to 1 was the original plan. The BRZ just did much better in the beginning and held on pretty good.

I didn't realize that part, either way, growing inventory doesn't tell me that the production is slowing, and if it is slowing, it's not slowing enough to match the demand (lack of, in this instance).

I wish I had room for a BRZ again, the tS (gold brembos) plus the darker blue looks amazing.

[SpectralOoze]

Originally Posted by timpala11

I guess my post was a little too unfair to the VB. I will say to your point that Toyota financing was ridiculous when I looked, something like 10% for the GRC (lol gtfoh with that). I haven't test driven one as I am not really in the market for now, but I assume it is a better daily than my STI, and I'm sure the VB is even nicer to DD. I'm still pissed at no hatch and the factory performance, but it is what it is. I don't even really care about the plastic tbh, eye of the beholder etc.

I can definitely afford a VB before a GRC (especially if I keep the STI which has been pissing me off lately) but personally I would be settling. But whatever I can get to daily I will bc the STI is taxing on my dumb perfectionist self. Glad you're enjoying your VB!


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No harm at all! I definitely think the GRC is much cooler and agree with you on that front. Whether I could quantify that, is another story. My Mazdaspeed Edition Miata was cooler too, but at the end of the day, it served no purpose other than being a toy. A very fast toy, but a toy nonetheless. I ended up parting out all the GTX3076 bits and returned it to OEM turbo setup to sell it as well. It's difficult to maintain a weekend vehicle these days. And I agree, if Subaru released a hatch, that would've been my choice. And I *will* trade this Sedan for a hatch if that ever comes to fruition. I just don't think a GRC would be enough to sway me anymore. Subaru holds their dealers to a standard, Toyota lets their dealers treat us like shark bait in open waters.

[SoDealer]

Originally Posted by samagon

based on the chart that Kosta has been providing and updating that's not what I'm seeing at all.

the inventory on lots for the previous months has continued to increase, you'd think if Subaru were shrinking both that the inventory would be shrinking, rather than growing?

in the case of the BRZ it does however make a bit of sense that they are devoting more time on the assembly line to GR86 instead of BRZ, considering the volume of both cars, but regardless, they still have growing inventory...

sales down 7,000 units YTD and inventory up 1k units. The vast majority of the drop is production. Subaru is choking off WRX while continuing to raise its price so that each unit that does sell can pay for its emissions penalties. It's going to get worse until the end. When was the last time Subaru let a suffering WRX languish without a heavy refresh? Never.

[Apharmd]

Originally Posted by jimbobjohnbrown

DAYUMMM!

https://www.motor1.com/news/735814/s...sales-tanking/

The late model year changeover is a real thing, but those numbers are bad.

The current car, aside from the price/performance/features for the lower trims, is mediocre. It's a sedan that looks, and drives, like a Legacy XT or Outback XT. Between high interest rates and layoffs in the tech sector I'm not surprised that the VB WRX isn't selling well.


How long before Subaru takes the WRX behind the woodshed and puts it out of its misery?

[jimbobjohnbrown]

Originally Posted by Apharmd

The current car, aside from the price/performance/features for the lower trims, is mediocre. It's a sedan that looks, and drives, like a Legacy XT or Outback XT. Between high interest rates and layoffs in the tech sector I'm not surprised that the VB WRX isn't selling well.


How long before Subaru takes the WRX behind the woodshed and puts it out of its misery?

I'm guessing you haven't driven the latest WRX. Far far from an Outback XT or even a legacy XT. I have a 2022, and can tell you from personal experience.



If you think a WRX is only about the engine, you are sadly mistaken. That's only 50% of the picture.... There's suspension steering tires ride height etc.



I'm not here to defend the car, people have their opinion one way or the other, and that's fine.



My gripes are:

Ugly rear bumper. *I like the side cladding.
It's a bit too refined. The boost doesn't throw you back into your seat in the least, everything is very linear. However, that's remedied with a tune, which by the way this car is very responsive to modding. I'm a stock guy, I do not tune, but that's what it would take to make this car a 10.