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Old 10-16-2006, 09:48 AM   #1
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Default RallyCross Results are up....and you'll never guess who won...

http://www.spokes.org/admin/results/06rx1_raw_.htm
http://www.spokes.org/admin/results/06RX1b_fin.htm
http://www.spokes.org/admin/results/06RX1b_pax_.htm
http://www.spokes.org/admin/results/06RX1b_sum_.htm


This should be startling/scary enough...

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Raw time 202.331 pa 1 Brian Watts

All this of course after Dave's Acura took a nasty spill and lost an axle. Otherwise I'd probably be third.
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Old 10-16-2006, 10:05 AM   #2
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Very nice! I can't believe I let you win that easily. That weird last run pretty much sealed it. Thanks a ton for letting me play in your car!
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Old 10-16-2006, 10:13 AM   #3
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Very nice! I can't believe I let you win that easily. That weird last run pretty much sealed it. Thanks a ton for letting me play in your car!
Anytime You didn't let me win that easy. I had to moon you and pray for cones. The AWD gods favored me only because of my strikingly bad looks.
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Old 10-16-2006, 11:09 AM   #4
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Anytime You didn't let me win that easy. I had to moon you and pray for cones. The AWD gods favored me only because of my strikingly bad looks.
congrats on the win
but lets see that' moon run again ahahah
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Old 10-16-2006, 01:29 PM   #5
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I'd say his win was due to running in the best conditions... since by the time he ran the course had been smoothed to Austin City street conditions... it was just an autocross for him...


Or maybe it was the eleventy billion rock cleaning test runs he was sent on during course cleaning/rock pick up
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Old 10-16-2006, 01:33 PM   #6
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I'd say his win was due to running in the best conditions... since by the time he ran the course had been smoothed to Austin City street conditions... it was just an autocross for him...


Or maybe it was the eleventy billion rock cleaning test runs he was sent on during course cleaning/rock pick up
it might be due to a certain someone running over the timing light
resulting in you moving the light forward a few inches which = less distance traveled for him to win ahaha jk
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Old 10-16-2006, 01:42 PM   #7
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I'd say his win was due to running in the best conditions... since by the time he ran the course had been smoothed to Austin City street conditions... it was just an autocross for him...


Or maybe it was the eleventy billion rock cleaning test runs he was sent on during course cleaning/rock pick up
I'm pretty sure we were mad at Dave and Brianne for running, what.....30+ runs previously? I'm sure my 4 or 5 runs around the track with no cones, no lines, and on a rough surface had a huge benefit

The course was the same for me as it would have been for you. It held up remarkably well. I think the only change made was to the opening slalom.

If you want to attribute my way to something, make it playing hours of Richard Burns Rally beforehand praciting scandinavian flicks...or hell, I could just be a good dirt driver. Can't I be good at something every once in awhile?
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Old 10-16-2006, 01:44 PM   #8
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Can't I be good at something every once in awhile?
No, unacceptable....
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Old 10-16-2006, 01:55 PM   #9
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The course was the same for me as it would have been for you. It held up remarkably well. I think the only change made was to the opening slalom.
im supprised the monster truck didnt dig any deeper into the course
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im supprised the monster truck didnt dig any deeper into the course
Open Diff RWD. FTL. That is a Mickey Thompson offroad pre-runner test/show truck from the TVTC center.

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I'm pretty sure we were mad at Dave and Brianne for running, what.....30+ runs previously? I'm sure my 4 or 5 runs around the track with no cones, no lines, and on a rough surface had a huge benefit
Not so much mad at them, as worried about the condition of the course. If they'd rutted the site, we'd have been propery screwed for the event. It didn't happen so it was a non issue.

From a Sportsmanship perspective... they were competing against each other. If it had been against me, I might have had more issues. But changing conditions are changing conditions...


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Can't gravity be suspended every once in awhile??
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Old 10-16-2006, 02:19 PM   #11
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Compared to the course sweeping runs the day before, you really tightened up and drove well! Now bring it out to the autocross this weekend and repeat your performance on asphalt
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Old 10-16-2006, 02:29 PM   #12
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I'm pretty sure we were mad at Dave and Brianne for running, what.....30+ runs previously? I'm sure my 4 or 5 runs around the track with no cones, no lines, and on a rough surface had a huge benefit

The course was the same for me as it would have been for you. It held up remarkably well. I think the only change made was to the opening slalom.

If you want to attribute my way to something, make it playing hours of Richard Burns Rally beforehand praciting scandinavian flicks...or hell, I could just be a good dirt driver. Can't I be good at something every once in awhile?

Dave was there weeks before getting that site ready, removing brush and rocks.. did you see how that back end was not mowed and was very rough? because it wasnt the original part of the design, it was not clear and the rocks werent removed. if the course didnt look like it had not been driven on, half of the guys who have never seen a coned course before would have DNF'd their first runs just trying find the course

Dont hate on him because his contributions made the event more enoyable for everyone, how many of you are running against him at Rallye De Paris?

Seems like everyone is discrediting his experience, his time and money spent on his car, and his efforts this weekened
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Dave was awesome. He did tons of work to help make this event a success. We knew he was gonna whoop us, but we were a little sore to hear that Brianne had snuck out there and spent some time recce'ing the site/course. That and the possibility of significant rutting were the only complaints, and they weren't big deals at all. BTW, let's try to focus on the positives and not get dragged down on minor or non issues. Who is up for another one?!?!
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these minor issues add up, and youve got to hear the complaints to make the events better
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I think you quoted the wrong guy. I didn't have anything bad to say about Dave.

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Dave was there weeks before getting that site ready, removing brush and rocks.. did you see how that back end was not mowed and was very rough? because it wasnt the original part of the design, it was not clear and the rocks werent removed. if the course didnt look like it had not been driven on, half of the guys who have never seen a coned course before would have DNF'd their first runs just trying find the course
No one new what the course would look like until John made it. Of what original design do you speak of?

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Dont hate on him because his contributions made the event more enoyable for everyone, how many of you are running against him at Rallye De Paris?
I wasn't hating on him. I was responding to Zach saying my extra 4 runs the Saturday before somehow "made a difference". The issue with them possibly rutting the course was real. Rutted course + SCCA Saftey Steward = No RallyCross

I have a day job, don't have a Rally prepared vehicle, don't have sufficient entries in a performance Rally, and don't have the necessary insurance. So no, I won't be racing against him at Rallye De Paris. I'm not sure what relevance that has.

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Seems like everyone is discrediting his experience, his time and money spent on his car, and his efforts this weekened
Are you reading the same thread we're reading?
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Dave was awesome. He did tons of work to help make this event a success. We knew he was gonna whoop us, but we were a little sore to hear that Brianne had snuck out there and spent some time recce'ing the site/course. That and the possibility of significant rutting were the only complaints, and they weren't big deals at all. BTW, let's try to focus on the positives and not get dragged down on minor or non issues. Who is up for another one?!?!
+1

Count me in for the next one. Quadruple entered MR2 perhaps?
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maybe i did read it wrong, i just simply didnt like the majority of the event, it cost me a lot to get down there to not enjoy it, thats al i guess
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Did you get any rides? Man, I wish I knew earlier or I would have thrown you in the pasenger seat of Brian's car. I think it's just as much fun riding as driving
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i rode about 6 times, took pictures the rest of the time
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Did you get any rides? Man, I wish I knew earlier or I would have thrown you in the pasenger seat of Brian's car. I think it's just as much fun holding on screaming for mommy as driving
fixed that for you.
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True. LOL
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maybe i did read it wrong, i just simply didnt like the majority of the event, it cost me a lot to get down there to not enjoy it, thats al i guess
I'm sorry you didn't enjoy it, really I am. You are the only person I've heard anything negative from. Maybe Rallycross is not for you, I don't know.

I do know, publicly airing rumors, conjecture, and supposition is potentially damaging to a really positive situation for RallyX enthusiasts, SPOKES and the relationship we enjoy with Dave, DPR, Rally America and the Taylor's operation. It seems like you have misconstrued actual events to fit your story as to why you didn't enjoy the event. If you want to discuss what you didn't like, email me, I'll be glad to listen.

I cannot thank Dave enough. I've known him since he lived down the street from me, his time and effort were in my opinion absolutely vital to making this work. I hope he can help the Taylor's get some Rally America money in there to help them clear the land of rocks, and improve the top layer. Without him, and his truck, we couldn't even have gotten the last 180 in place.

I'm extremely happy with the course, its direction, and the condition SPOKES left the site. Sweepers really separate the good, disciplined, fast drivers drivers (Like Watts was Sunday) from the rest (the 550HP Evo, the 85lb MR2 piloted by me), and better yet they don't rut. We only had to change the start area a little bit to avoid some rutting that was developing. Though I think changes make the event more interesting, as driver's have to adapt.

Personally, I can't wait for the next one. I have another compete stock suspension for the MR2, hopefully not blown and maybe I'll find an exhaust. I might even try to fix the oil leaks.

And then we can enter as many people as we can find in the Junkyard MR2.
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I think you quoted the wrong guy. I didn't have anything bad to say about Dave. ... I was responding to Zach saying my extra 4 runs the Saturday before somehow "made a difference". The issue with them possibly rutting the course was real. Rutted course + SCCA Saftey Steward = No RallyCross

And I was just giving you crap... just like the SPASM/ATXP days...
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I had a great time yesterday and I think it went just how it should have. Hard to beleive that was a 1st event!

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I'm pretty sure we were mad at Dave and Brianne for running, what.....30+ runs previously?
I appreciate the positive things being said and I resent greatly any comments such as this. I will avoid publicly saying anymore but let it be known that the way I was treated up until yesterday was poor at best and that the things being mumbled about me a couple weeks ago don't exactly make me want to take a week away from work to prepare a course for you again.

Also, I think to credit anyone other than Chris Taylor with course design is bogus. Granted, it wasn't exactly as he made it but it was still 90% Chris, 10% spokes.

I think there are a lot of things that need to be resolved and a lot of changes that need to be made to the course to emphasize that it is a rallycross and not a dirty autocross but I'm sure it will all come together in due time.

I look forward to possible future events and if everybody can be a little more upfront and receptive, there's no reason this can't be one of the most succesful events/series in the Lone Star Region!
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I appreciate the positive things being said and I resent greatly any comments such as this. I will avoid publicly saying anymore but let it be known that the way I was treated up until yesterday was poor at best and that the things being mumbled about me a couple weeks ago don't exactly make me want to take a week away from work to prepare a course for you again.
I have no idea what happened before now. I was merely commenting on my 4 to 5 runs on Saturday during the rock pickup party. If a professional rally driver had more practice runs than I did and I was staying near the top, I must have had a moment of brilliance/luck/pulled out of arse moment
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