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Old 08-12-2018, 03:46 PM   #801
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Dare I say VW is making more durable products than Honda right now?
a couple years ago i would have said you were nuts, but after doing tons of research before i bought my car id say they are. vw is vastly better than they used to be and honda has went downhill.
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Old 08-14-2018, 07:49 PM   #802
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Are all the Civics having these issues too?
my hatch had a leaky shock, and a lot of little issues, but has settled down now since 30k miles.

It's built in the UK, I'll be happy if it doesn't catch fire.
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Old 08-16-2018, 09:40 AM   #803
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In my head I call you "Scrappydo II" because you've both owned so many different performance vehicles. It's impressive.
Ha, I know we (Scrappy) must be brothers from a different mother. Unless the Focus RS is unreliable (so far zero issues in 4K miles) it will be my daily for many years to come.

I do have my eyes on getting a used Lotus Elise as a fun car. I have always wanted one and you can basically buy one, drive it for several years, and sell it for the same price you paid. Toyota engine, transmission, etc so easy to maintain and reliable. Just have to pray you never have the clam damaged via someone hitting you or you hitting someone as it totals the car from an insurance perspective.
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Old 08-16-2018, 11:25 AM   #804
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Ha, I know we (Scrappy) must be brothers from a different mother. Unless the Focus RS is unreliable (so far zero issues in 4K miles) it will be my daily for many years to come.

I do have my eyes on getting a used Lotus Elise as a fun car. I have always wanted one and you can basically buy one, drive it for several years, and sell it for the same price you paid. Toyota engine, transmission, etc so easy to maintain and reliable. Just have to pray you never have the clam damaged via someone hitting you or you hitting someone as it totals the car from an insurance perspective.
GT350! Or Cayman S
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Old 08-16-2018, 03:58 PM   #805
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GT350! Or Cayman S
I wish the budget allowed

I have wanted to own an Elise for like 10 years now and I am not getting any younger. I better get one while I can still get myself in and out of one
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Old 08-16-2018, 05:32 PM   #806
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The problem is price. When I was cross shopping dealers near me (the few who had any) wanted like $40-42K and even used ones were going for $38-39K. I bought a brand new totally loaded Focus RS for less money and in New England AWD is nice to have. If you can actually find a Type R for under MSRP or even at MSRP grab one.
Agreed on Price. Dealers are regularly commanding at least $5K over MSRP. It took me 3 months and a 2.5 hour drive to get mine for MSRP.

However as others have pointed out resale is very strong. As owners are being offered north of MSRP on trade-ins. It's been a good car... Good finish, good daily, WAY better gas mileage than WRX. It's definitely not made for cold weather. If you plan to daily the car a pair off all-seasons is an absolute must.

PS. My local dealer was asking $45K and had no intentions of backing off of that price.
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Old 08-16-2018, 05:45 PM   #807
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Ha, I know we (Scrappy) must be brothers from a different mother. Unless the Focus RS is unreliable (so far zero issues in 4K miles) it will be my daily for many years to come.

I do have my eyes on getting a used Lotus Elise as a fun car. I have always wanted one and you can basically buy one, drive it for several years, and sell it for the same price you paid. Toyota engine, transmission, etc so easy to maintain and reliable. Just have to pray you never have the clam damaged via someone hitting you or you hitting someone as it totals the car from an insurance perspective.
Maybe we can trade cars a few years down the road. I wanted an RS but once again Dealers wanted north of $40K here.
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Old 08-16-2018, 07:24 PM   #808
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Maybe we can trade cars a few years down the road. I wanted an RS but once again Dealers wanted north of $40K here.
I bought mine RS at the right time. It was still really cold and snowing and the car had been sitting with forged wheels and Cup tires and the head gasket issue was scaring people away. I was able to get it well below invoice and get a crazy trade in on my C7.

It would be fun to trade cars I think Honda did a great job with the Type R. It's a little boy racer for my age, but I would still drive it. I have seen several on the road and like the black ones.
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Old 02-16-2019, 08:33 PM   #809
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Despite it's looks, I haven't heard/read a negative review of the Type R yet. If something were to happen to my WRX I would seriously consider one. I just hope they tone down the styling lol.


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Old 02-16-2019, 10:09 PM   #810
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The TypeR looks great! Did you have to pay any markup? My local dealer has a black one and they have a firm price of $43k.

When she asked if I wanted to test drive it, I told her the price made it a non-starter.

How do you like it?
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Old 02-16-2019, 10:20 PM   #811
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The TypeR looks great! Did you have to pay any markup? My local dealer has a black one and they have a firm price of $43k.

When she asked if I wanted to test drive it, I told her the price made it a non-starter.

How do you like it?

Met someone local on instagram who surfed the Facebook group for me to find a deal on the color I wanted for $500 over MSRP. All the dealers I contacted wanted $3-5k over and werent budging. From what Ive seen some dealers offer MSRP, but charge a bunch in accessories.

I drove home in it for about 120 miles in comfort and it was great. The bucket seats are surprisingly plush and comfortable imo. I don't have the best lower back, and I was worried about driving it home, but I did 3 hours nonstop without an ache.

The last 10 miles to my house I played with sport & +R for a bit and was surprised by how immediate the engine & throttle response was. There's probably half a second of lag, and then it just takes OFF and wants to keep going lol. I don't have a vast car history, but I've never felt a 4 cylinder like this. I can honestly see why people say +R might be too much for the road, because the speed just increases and you find yourself running out of road... or into a cop lol. It feels eager in stock configuration, and I did get to drive a stage 2 Type R prior to purchase. I thought it would be hard to get 350+ whp to the front wheels, but once it's rolling and you step on the gas it really feels like a little space shuttle. They worked magic emitting torque steer. I love how the different modes have different characteristics, because comfort will keep you from driving like an ass if you don't want to. Def the mode of choice if my wife ever decides to ride in it, especially with her being pregnant. She hated riding in my WRX.

I test drove a 2019 STi a couple weeks ago and fell in love with it coming from the WRX, because it did everything better than it. Everything felt more solid & responsive. I finally got to see what the difference was between it and the WRX was. After getting to putter around in the Type R and getting to GET on it a bit I knew it was what I wanted. The STi does not like to be driven slow or in traffic. It's definitely doable, but it's not necessarily suited for it. I still haven't driven a Golf R, but Im not mad. I know DSG is the best transmission for that car, and as fast as it can be I knew I'd get bored with it. Not just because automatic, but because of it's sterileness.
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Old 02-17-2019, 12:12 AM   #812
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Congrats! We just picked up a 2019 Sonic Grey one. We were also looking at a 2019 STi series grey. In the end the hatchback won it. My wife loves a hatch, and she's super digging it so far. We went from our 02 WRX wagon, to 335i BMW... and she missed the wagon a lot. So the Type R was a spiritual successor in a way.

IT looks rad next to my STi in the garage.
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Old 02-17-2019, 01:24 AM   #813
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. The STi does not like to be driven slow or in traffic. It's definitely doable, but it's not necessarily suited for it. I still haven't driven a Golf R, but Im not mad. I know DSG is the best transmission for that car, and as fast as it can be I knew I'd get bored with it. Not just because automatic, but because of it's sterileness.
Thats funny, I find my STI more enjoyable to drive slow and in traffic than my DSG GTI. The clutch action is linear and easy, the shifter feels good in normal shifting... The DSG hated stop and go.
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Congratulations Spike! Looks like this was meant to be.
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Old 02-17-2019, 07:40 AM   #815
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Thats funny, I find my STI more enjoyable to drive slow and in traffic than my DSG GTI. The clutch action is linear and easy, the shifter feels good in normal shifting... The DSG hated stop and go.
I too found the new STI very comfortable and enjoyable in traffic, surprisingly more so than my 15 WRX. I also agree with the DSG comment, they are clunky in traffic and it often felt like the car would stall from a stop. So far it seems like the CTR is a lot more livable/comfortable than it would seem on paper.
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Old 02-17-2019, 09:28 AM   #816
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I too found the new STI very comfortable and enjoyable in traffic, surprisingly more so than my 15 WRX. I also agree with the DSG comment, they are clunky in traffic and it often felt like the car would stall from a stop. So far it seems like the CTR is a lot more livable/comfortable than it would seem on paper.


Interesting to hear about the DSG in traffic. Makes me feel like I definitely made the right choice then lol. I also agree about the comfort of the 2019 STI. Its a lot more comfortable than earlier WRXs. My wife hated riding in my WRX, even more so that shes pregnant, and she enjoyed the ride in the STI. I had a limited with just RCE Yellows. I cant wait for my 18 wheels to arrive so I can get off these stock 20s lol.
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Interesting to hear about the DSG in traffic. Makes me feel like I definitely made the right choice then lol. I also agree about the comfort of the 2019 STI. Its a lot more comfortable than earlier WRXs. My wife hated riding in my WRX, even more so that shes pregnant, and she enjoyed the ride in the STI. I had a limited with just RCE Yellows. I cant wait for my 18 wheels to arrive so I can get off these stock 20s lol.
You most certainly made the best choice. Honda manuals are second to none and while the DSG is quick, after few days it will feel just like another automatic. The CTR seems to be razor sharp and you can't beat the fun of a manual. If my WRX got totaled I would most likely end up with a CTR as well.
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Old 02-17-2019, 11:11 AM   #818
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Wow, sorry to see the accident, glad you weren't hurt seriously from it. Might want to get new plates "Stay Back" instead of "Pull Up" LOL.

Congrats on the new car. Your wife coming from a 335i, I'd thought a Golf-R would be more in line for high performance hatch duty, but I guess the fun-factor side won your wife. Enjoy your new car.
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Old 02-17-2019, 02:39 PM   #819
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I still haven't driven a Golf R, but Im not mad. I know DSG is the best transmission for that car, and as fast as it can be I knew I'd get bored with it. Not just because automatic, but because of it's sterileness.
Nothing wrong with the manual.
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Old 02-17-2019, 03:01 PM   #820
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Wow crazy this happened to you but congrats the Type R, especially that color.
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Old 02-17-2019, 03:25 PM   #821
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I sat in the Type R and the seats were very uncomfortable for me compared to the STI seats
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Old 02-17-2019, 04:19 PM   #822
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I sat in the Type R and the seats were very uncomfortable for me compared to the STI seats
STI and WRX seats are terrible so thats not hard to do.

Honda has always made good seats.
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Old 02-17-2019, 04:40 PM   #823
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Thats funny, I find my STI more enjoyable to drive slow and in traffic than my DSG GTI. The clutch action is linear and easy, the shifter feels good in normal shifting... The DSG hated stop and go.
the new 7 speed dsg is much better at crawling and stop and go. the only time mine isnt smooth is slowing down to nearly a dead stop and getting back on the throttle quickly.
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STI and WRX seats are terrible so thats not hard to do.

Honda has always made good seats.
Really ? I love the Recaros in the 2019 STI and even the base seats seem pretty comfy to me.
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Old 02-17-2019, 08:27 PM   #825
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It really depends on your weight and build. I mean, maybe that's obvious with any seat, but if you're thinner/smaller you tend to fly around the STI seats at an forceful turn. That's why the BRZ seats were universally praised, if one could fit in them.
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