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Old 09-10-2013, 11:11 PM   #26
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No it doesnt but i did talk to a tech support person and they told me it can do the biderectional control.

They recommended me either the Maxicheck Abs or the Maxiscan MD802
Great info, thanks. Makes me wonder if other tools have the same capability.

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Better contact them to make sure. I bought it and am disappointed with it.
Care to elaborate? Slow? Buggy? Unreliable?
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Old 06-13-2014, 02:37 AM   #27
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Has anyone successfully bled their ABS module without the use of an autel maxi scan or md802? of all the threads ive searched and read, i have yet to see someone confirm successful cycling of the abs pump through the use of shorting pins 3 & 6 on the diagnosis connector (B82) which is a black 6 pin plug under the dash, near the firewall that is in the same harness as two green connectors.
[as learned in this thread http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...#post20526989]
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Old 06-13-2014, 03:42 AM   #28
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i cycled my ABS doing the pin trick for the first time last week. it works, do it.
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Old 06-13-2014, 07:59 AM   #29
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i cycled my ABS doing the pin trick for the first time last week. it works, do it.
Can you confirm the wire colors of pins 3&6 to short out?
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Old 06-13-2014, 01:35 PM   #30
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looking at the open part of the connector it looks something like this:

1 - - 2
3 4 5 6

based on your pic (i cant be sure) its red/white stripe and green/yellow stripe
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Old 01-04-2015, 01:40 PM   #31
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Anybody know of an OBD scan tool which can cycle the ABS pump the way the Subaru OEM tool can? .
Did you ever find such a tool?
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Old 01-13-2015, 10:28 AM   #32
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I cycled the ABS the cave man way last time.

Bleed.
Drive car, Panic stop.
Bleed.

The documentation provided by the affordable tool manufacturers is too sparse and their reliability is too suspect to be worth buying a $150+ tool at this time. I see Autel has some new models since I posted this, but the documentation is still sparse.
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Old 02-01-2016, 07:18 PM   #33
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Threadsurrection. Just bought the MD802 Elite from Amazon for $263 shipped.
Will attempt the following and report back results:
A) Pull ABS light error code
B) Cycle sequence control on a 2007 WRX (for which, as far as I know, one cannot cycle manually with the pins).

Wish me luck in attempting to cure my spongy pedal feel after my new stoptech BBK install.
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Old 02-01-2016, 07:50 PM   #34
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Thorough bleeding is a real PITA after a full brake replacement. Good luck.

Please do report back on the cycling control with the MD802, also let us know how smooth or buggy the UI is.
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Old 02-05-2016, 08:42 PM   #35
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Threadsurrection. Just bought the MD802 Elite from Amazon for $263 shipped.
Will attempt the following and report back results:
A) Pull ABS light error code
B) Cycle sequence control on a 2007 WRX (for which, as far as I know, one cannot cycle manually with the pins).

Wish me luck in attempting to cure my spongy pedal feel after my new stoptech BBK install.
Updating my post:

Primary mission failure.

MD802 would not cycle the ABS pump on my 2007 WRX. The instruction booklet shows how one would cycle the ABS pump and all actuators, but the option simply isn't available when hooked up to my WRX.

However, I was able to pull the ABS code that has been plaguing me for years. Bought the replacement right rear sensor after the MD802 suggested it was faulty, replaced the sensor and voila, fixed ABS!
My local Subaru wanted $150 and 4 hours just to pull an ABS code(!) So as far as I'm concerned, the MD802 at ~$270 paid for itself. Not a bad tool to have in the toolbox, particularly considering its broad vehicle model support.

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If anyone wants to give it another shot, I'd suggest buying the "Autel MaxiCheck Airbag/ABS SRS Light Service Reset Tool"
Which has this as a specifically listed feature: "Performs bi-directional tests such as cycling the ABS solenoids, running pump motor, activating seatbelt reminders and so on".

Now to bleed the brakes tomorrow after letting the ABS kick in hard a few times and see if we can't cure the this damn spongy pedal once and for all.

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Old 02-06-2016, 04:39 PM   #36
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Updating my post:

Primary mission failure.

MD802 would not cycle the ABS pump on my 2007 WRX. The instruction booklet shows how one would cycle the ABS pump and all actuators, but the option simply isn't available when hooked up to my WRX.
Reports like that are the reason I stuck to the caveman method. Thanks for taking one for the team and buying one any way.

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If anyone wants to give it another shot, I'd suggest buying the "Autel MaxiCheck Airbag/ABS SRS Light Service Reset Tool"
Which has this as a specifically listed feature: "Performs bi-directional tests such as cycling the ABS solenoids, running pump motor, activating seatbelt reminders and so on".
Almost $300 for that one, but at least it combines most features which should be available through the OBD II port into one unit. I might have to pick one up. Still hard to justify with Tactrix/ROMRaider doing the OBD so inexpensively, but it would be nice to have a better TPMS tool than my ATEQ for the Honda.
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Old 05-14-2017, 05:28 PM   #37
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If anyone wants to give it another shot, I'd suggest buying the "Autel MaxiCheck Airbag/ABS SRS Light Service Reset Tool"
Which has this as a specifically listed feature: "Performs bi-directional tests such as cycling the ABS solenoids, running pump motor, activating seatbelt reminders and so on".
Tried the Autel MaxiCheck Pro and it's does not have a feature to cycle the 4th Gen Subaru's ABS system ( tried it on a 2014 3.6R ).

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Old 05-20-2017, 11:31 AM   #38
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Checked with Autel's customer service via a chat if the DS808 would do work and they said only the MaxiSys MS906 and up would.

They have a support page which allows you to check the actual functionality for each brand of car for each tool here.
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Old 05-23-2017, 08:07 PM   #39
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Bought an OTC Encore scan tool at the 2015 / 2.6.0.11 level, as the OTC Encore release guide for 2.5.0.8 said:

Repair Information

Updated Repair Information for the following:

Updated ABS Brake Bleed Procedures for all manufacturers


Could not get it to work so called OTC's help line, they confirmed that Subaru is one they struggle with, they checked the 2.10 level which was released today and found they had not added any additional Subaru support.

So looks like the options left are:

Subaru Select Monitor $$$$
Autel MS906 $$$
VXDIAG SSM-III $$

Anyone else fancy having a go?
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Old 09-07-2017, 12:05 PM   #40
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I was looking at some (under $250) OBD2 scan tools from Autel and Innova, and none of them would read Subaru ABS codes, let alone cycle the ABS.
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Old 09-07-2017, 04:42 PM   #41
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Reports like that are the reason I stuck to the caveman method. Thanks for taking one for the team and buying one any way.
Hope you read this.....what is your "caveman method"?


My method, which may be similar on any ABS, is to find a dirt, gravel, snow covered road, or wet roads with crappy tires.....multiple hard stops so ABS kicks in to force fluid through the pump, then do a rather normal brake bleed.
Yes, I suck old fluid out of the reservoir first and refill so it's only fresh brake fluid going to the pump.
This method can take a while/many stops. I wait until I have refilled the master reservoir a couple times before doing each wheel.
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Old 01-22-2018, 06:27 PM   #42
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I was looking at some (under $250) OBD2 scan tools from Autel and Innova, and none of them would read Subaru ABS codes, let alone cycle the ABS.
Looks like the Autel MaxiDiag Elite MD802 (around $225) can at least read Subaru ABS codes. But can't cycle the pump?
The owner's manual I downloaded is not very clear on this.
Even more confusing, there seem to be two versions of the MD802, with the same model number. One is much more advanced than the other.

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I see this thread is everyone trying to verify if any of the scanners can read an ABS code, and actuate the ABS pump, but has anyone or can anyone confirm that any of the scanners can clear the ABS codes? I have a 2009 Subaru Impreza 2.5 I, and I cant find this diagnostic connector under the dash to save my life
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I see this thread is everyone trying to verify if any of the scanners can read an ABS code, and actuate the ABS pump, but has anyone or can anyone confirm that any of the scanners can clear the ABS codes? I have a 2009 Subaru Impreza 2.5 I, and I cant find this diagnostic connector under the dash to save my life
Typically, on ANY Mfr, the ABS reset is through the OBDII port with a scanner than can do it.
Not a special plug in.......at least, not that I have found....l.
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Thanks, I was just referring to the diag connector because several people had referenced jumping the pins on this connector. I’m trying to see if anyone can confirm their model of scanner has the function to pull ABS specific codes and also has the option to erase/clear ABS codes same as the standard OBDII scanner does for P codes.
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Thanks, I was just referring to the diag connector because several people had referenced jumping the pins on this connector. Im trying to see if anyone can confirm their model of scanner has the function to pull ABS specific codes and also has the option to erase/clear ABS codes same as the standard OBDII scanner does for P codes.
Hmmmmm....while I am NOT an expert on this, usually the "test connectors" are for ECU reflash or some standalone testing.
Can't say they are required to be connected for ABS or other systems.

Curious to see what replies are, I am always looking to learn something.
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I was really hoping that Subaru wasn’t as particular as Nissans were, we had a special scanner that cost a crap ton of money for Bcm, Tcm, etc. I might try that cable and laptop software I read about somewhere here in the forums.
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Old 04-24-2018, 04:03 PM   #49
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As far as I know, abs performs a scan every time you turn on the car and will either clear or maintain the code itself. I would fix the problem first and the light should pop off on its own. That was exactly what happened in my case. Replaced the sensor and on the very next time i tried to turn on the car (Battery remained connected the whole time), the abs light that was on for years turned off immediately.
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I’m totally hoping that’s the case, just weird that it all happened after replacing the hubs and fog lights. I’ve been through about 7 trips in the car now, and each time the situation returns. So I don’t think my fog lights are the issue since I unplugged them last night when I started pulling my hair out. Sucks like crap not having abs and vdc since it’s raining on my way home now, and I have a 2 hour ride home...
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