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Old 04-13-2017, 08:53 AM   #1
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Volkswagen's forthcoming Golf-based SUV looks set to spawn an R-badged go-faster version to rival Seat's 300bhp SUV

A Volkswagen T-Roc R could be launched, marking the firm’s first high-performance SUV, according to the firm’s head of development, Frank Welsch.

The T-Roc is a Golf-based SUV aimed at the booming, Qashqai-dominated SUV market and is set to be revealed this summer, ahead of going on sale in the autumn. It sits on the same underpinnings as the Audi Q2 and Seat Ateca, making the installation of the same powertrain family a relatively simple engineering exercise.

We've driven the Volkswagen T-Roc prototype - read about it here

“Yes, of course I could imagine more powerful engines and it has been prepared for the eventuality,” said Welsch. “I wouldn’t call it a GTI — an SUV isn’t a fitting car for that badge, perhaps — but I could imagine it as an R.

“Our first job is to launch the standard car and see the reaction to it. If demand is there for a more powerful car, we can likely satisfy it. There is a great deal of potential in the car that we can unlock if customers want it.”

The latest Golf R is powered by a 2.0-litre, four-cylinder engine making 310bhp and 295lb ft. It has a 0-62mph time of 4.6sec when equipped with a seven-speed DSG dualclutch automatic gearbox, although the T-Roc’s greater weight and less aerodynamic shape, as well as the likely retuning of its engine to suit its high-riding characteristics, will likely blunt those figures.

Comment: will a hot Volkswagen T-Roc be a sales success?

The commonality of parts for cars using the MQB A platform on which the T-Roc sits also raises the prospect of the new SUV being sold in plug-in hybrid GTE form along with, potentially, a warm GTD set-up. However, the future of diesel engines in smaller cars remains up for debate as manufacturers weigh up the cost of meeting new emissions regulations for diesels against how much of a premium car buyers will be willing to pay. A pure-electric version of the T-Roc is unlikely, however, as VW is set to launch a bespoke family of electric models on its MEB platform from 2020.

Welsch’s openness to branding a fast T-Roc as an R model rather than a GTI also signals a clear policy to reserve the latter badge for its famous hot hatches. Even so, the firm is looking to broaden the appeal of its GTI range, with the entry-level Up GTI set to launch early next year.

As the SUV sector booms, car makers are looking to exploit sales niches while creating halo models that attract attention to a line-up as a whole while allowing them to exploit historically authentic performance brand names that set them apart from rivals. Nissan has toyed with limited-run GT-R-engined versions of its Juke SUV, and launched Nismo models, but VW’s decision to launch an R version of the T-Roc would signify a stepping up in the mainstream performance SUV stakes and be in line with the policy already signalled by stablemate Seat’s indications that it will launch Cupra versions of its SUVs.

Volkswagen's SUV assault



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Seven-seat Atlas is rolling out for sale in the US and China now. European sales remain under consideration, although VW insiders are worried it will cannibalise Tiguan sales.



Mid-2017

New T-Roc set to be revealed ahead of autumn on-sale date. Will showcase a more emotional design language inside and out and face the Qashqai head on.



Late-2017

New Touareg spy pictures reveal that the firm’s range-topping SUV will develop the firm’s styling language and interior look in line with that of the now year-old Tiguan.



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New Polo-based SUV will be launched as a rival to the Nissan Juke. It will use the same underpinnings as the Seat Arona, which launches later this year.
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I'm also sorts of excited. I think VW is doing great things (0 ****s given about diselgate).
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Revealed at the 2017 Frankfurt motor show, the new Volkswagen T-Roc has a funky name and a funky design.

Now it seems it will come with a funky engine too, which will give the pint-size SUV even more sizzle if it gets the green-light for production.

Seen here undergoing testing at the Nurburgring in Germany, the hot T-Roc in question is the ‘R’ performance model, according to our spy photographers.


The Volkswagen T-Roc R gets quad exhaust pipes that belch out out excess fuel
This stands to reason, as the T-Roc features a sportier front bumper and the same exhaust outlets as the 213kW VW Golf R.

It also follows recent comments made by Volkswagen Group Australia’s product marketing manager, Jeff Shafer, who recently told us he’d “…love to see Golf R spread to other models and I think that applies equally to passenger cars as well as SUVs”.

This particular T-Roc R photographed about to enter the Nurburgring road course could be powered by the high-output version of VW’s EA888 2.0-litre turbo-petrol engine, which in Europe generates 228kW – detuned to 213kW in Australia due to our “hot weather” status.


The VW T-Roc R rides on big 20-inch alloy wheels
Either way, the all-wheel drive T-Roc R would be fast and furious, with suspension and brake upgrades to manage the power hike. Volkswagen Australia is already on board too.

“I think that would be an awesome car and I’d be first in line to put my money down for that sort of concept,” said Shafer.

“Both of those trends are very much part of the Australian market – the SUV but also that performance appeal.”.

It’s not a slam-dunk to reach production at this stage, however.

The T-Roc R’s future may hang in the balance, with sources suggesting the future of the hot compact SUV and several other performance models including the Golf R 420 also seen testing during the same event, are under the microscope of Volkswagen’s decision makers. If they like them, all good. If not, they’re axed.

Now, the Golf R 420 prototype is powered by an extreme version of the EA888 2.0-litre engine pumping out a wild 310kW, which would enable the production version to bloody the nose of Mercedes-AMG’s skull-cracking A 45 hot-hatch.


Is this the Volkswagen Golf R 420? Those pipes suggest it could be the Golf RS
Pictured here with Audi RS-inspired oval exhaust pipes, the Golf R 420 runs bigger stoppers, stiffer springs and likely a minimalistic interior fit-out to suit its hard-core track-orientated attitude.

If – and it’s a big if – the Golf R 420 gets the nod, Australia will be a key market with sales of Golf R models in this country continuing to defy expectations.

Volkswagen Australia has introduced a new cut-price Golf R Grid Edition, which is unique to this country, so you can be sure the importer will be keen to land an AMG-killing hero Golf to top off the range.




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will be disappointed if VW doesn't bring the t-roc to the US, especially in R guise.
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Im holding out for the J-Roc, I hear it's pretty hard.
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It seems Volkswagen has some big plans for its new T-Roc compact SUV. The automaker today announced plans for a cabriolet version that will enter production in 2020. You read that correctly – a convertible version of a brand-new SUV that, if we’re honest, hasn’t even established itself in the market yet. That’s a an unexpected move from Volkswagen to say the least, not to mention pretty darned bold given the controversial and virtually non-existent history of previous open-roof crossovers.

Still, that isn’t stopping the company from investing €80 million to bring the drop-top T-Roc to production. That translates to almost $100 million in U.S. currency, and it will all go to VW’s Osnabrück plant where the convertible crossover will be built. No details have been offered on this topless T-Roc, but the rendering above depicts a two-door version with what appears to be a folding hardtop.

Volkswagen is evolving into an SUV brand,” said Volkwagen CEO Dr. Gerbert Diess. “The T-Roc is already setting new standards in the compact SUV segment. With the cabriolet based on the T-Roc, we will be adding a highly emotional model to the range.”

We’re assuming Volkswagen is aware of the last time a manufacturer attempted to splice convertible DNA with that of an SUV. Everyone remembers the Nissan Murano CrossCabriolet, and not just for its awkward look. Small back seats and limited storage space negated its practicality as an SUV, while sluggish performance and terrible rigidity made it suffer as a convertible. Sure, it had more ground clearance than the average drop-top runabout, and with all-wheel drive it could handle forest trails better than, say, a Mazda Miata. But there’s a reason why it only lasted four years.


This Porsche Cayenne Cabriolet concept has never been seen before
Yes, people are buying more SUVs and crossovers than ever before and we understand automakers seeking something different to stand out in the crowd. The million-dollar question here is whether modern-day SUV buyers are also convertible buyers. The Nissan experience tells us no, but maybe Volkswagen can find a way to make the idea work.

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Never mind it’s not coming to US
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Still find it astounding that VW isn't releasing the TRoc in the US. Maybe that'll be the underpinnings of their upcoming all electric crossover and they don't want to spoil the aesthetic with a gasoline powered version? Kind of like how you have to buy an etron to get an A3 in a hatchback?
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Considering how well the Crosstrek has done in North America it’s kind of perplexing that they wouldn’t bring the T-Roc. I get that it would cannibalize Golf sales as the Crosstrek has done to the Impreza but overall sales would have much greater potential.
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Volkswagen acknowledges performance model T-Roc is on the way by releasing first official footage

The Volkswagen T-Roc has been revealed. Read more here

The T-Roc R would sit above the current most potent 187bhp T-Roc, which Welsch believes will help the model stand out in its busy segment.

“We have a 187bhp T-Roc, which is more than the competitors offer," he said, "and we’ll see if lots of people take that."



Further T-Roc range expansion

The commonality of parts for cars using the MQB A platform on which the T-Roc sits also raises the prospect of the new SUV being sold in plug-in hybrid GTE form along with, potentially, a warm GTD set-up.

However, the future of diesel engines in smaller cars remains up for debate as manufacturers weigh up the cost of meeting new emissions regulations for diesels against how much of a premium buyers will be willing to pay. A pure-electric version of the T-Roc is unlikely, however, as VW is set to launch a bespoke family of electric models on its MEB platform from 2020.

Welsch’s openness to branding a fast T-Roc as an R model rather than a GTI also signals a clear policy to reserve the latter badge for its famous hot hatches. Even so, the firm has broadened the appeal of its GTI range, with the expansion of the brand into the entry-level Up GTI.

As the SUV sector booms, car makers are looking to exploit sales niches while creating halo models that attract attention to a line-up. For example, Nissan launched Nismo models of its Juke, but VW’s decision to launch an R version of the T-Roc would signify a step up in the mainstream performance SUV stakes.
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Cool.

I like the looks of the T-roc, although I'm not a huge fan of the name...

With the R drivetrain in there though, would be a blast. I think the fwd version is only like 100 lbs heavier than the GTI, so a 100 lb hit to the R wouldn't be terrible to gain a little more cargo room and ground clearance. It's like a Crosstrek STI. If it came to the US, maybe I could convince the wife to get one with a dsg.
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Volkswagen releases sketch of the performance version of its T-Roc SUV ahead of a Geneva motor show unveiling

Speaking at the launch of the new Volkswagen Polo GTI, Schebsdat, who led the development of models such as the Golf GTI Clubsport S and previously headed up chassis development at Porsche, said the T-Roc is already well suited to a performance application and therefore would be an effective R model.

"I think the standard T-Roc with 4Motion [four-wheel drive] and the DCC chassis with 19in wheels is the most agile SUV in that class," he said. "If there will be a T-Roc R, it will definitely be even more fun."

The model, a rival to group stablemate the Cupra Ateca, will put out 296bhp and had been spotted testing at the Nürburgring long before Volkswagen confirmed its existence.

Leuchter has been drafted in to provide input for the car's set-up. He was a key contributor to the Clubsport S's final technical settings and was the man at the wheel when it set an earlier Nürburgring front-wheel-drive lap record.



Leuchter said he has been pushing for more agile set-ups on Volkswagen models that reduce the understeer previous models had become synonymous with, suggesting that the T-Roc will be given playful characteristics in order to appeal to driving enthusiasts. Leuchter's input on the Polo GTI, for example, has increased its adjustability.

The T-Roc will be powered by the same turbocharged 2.0-litre four-cylinder engine as the Golf R, and the two will share much more, because each uses MQB A underpinnings. However, with the same power outputs, the T-Roc R's additional weight and higher centre of gravity will ensure it falls short of matching the 4.6sec 0-62mph time and dynamic handling of its smaller sibling.



In typical Volkswagen R style, the future performance T-Roc's styling will likely remain restrained to give it an understated look.

Early 'in the metal' sightings came weeks after Volkswagen research and development boss Frank Welsch told Autocar that he had commissioned the building of a development car to test the T-Roc R formula. Welsch said he "liked the idea" and expected it to "go well in the UK".

Volkswagen chairman Herbert Diess revealed last year that the fastest T-Roc would bypass the GTI name because "GTI is for us the hot hatch; a sporty car, classless and accessible for many. It should be this car - a hot hatch". For an SUV, Diess said "we have another sub-brand, R".

The Volkswagen T-Roc has been revealed. Read more here

The T-Roc R would sit above the current most potent 187bhp T-Roc, which Welsch believes will help the model stand out in its busy segment.

“We have a 187bhp T-Roc, which is more than the competitors offer," he said, "and we’ll see if lots of people take that."



Further T-Roc range expansion

The commonality of parts for cars using the MQB A platform on which the T-Roc sits also raises the prospect of the new SUV being sold in plug-in hybrid GTE form along with, potentially, a warm GTD set-up.

However, the future of diesel engines in smaller cars remains up for debate as manufacturers weigh up the cost of meeting new emissions regulations for diesels against how much of a premium buyers will be willing to pay. A pure-electric version of the T-Roc is unlikely, however, as VW is set to launch a bespoke family of electric models on its MEB platform from 2020.

Welsch’s openness to branding a fast T-Roc as an R model rather than a GTI also signals a clear policy to reserve the latter badge for its famous hot hatches. Even so, the firm has broadened the appeal of its GTI range, with the expansion of the brand into the entry-level Up GTI.

As the SUV sector booms, car makers are looking to exploit sales niches while creating halo models that attract attention to a line-up. For example, Nissan launched Nismo models of its Juke, but VW’s decision to launch an R version of the T-Roc would signify a step up in the mainstream performance SUV stakes.
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The rendering above looks like a Kia..
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Never been a fan of the flower-power wheel designs typical of VW/Audi. Wish they could break free of that trend...

Would be cool to see this car in the States. Surprised they don't release it to compete with the likes of the Crosstrek and the Crosstrek XT oh wait.
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The feisty crossover is ready to fight BMW's X2 M35i and Audi's SQ2.

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Many moons after the Touareg R50, Volkswagen finally has a new high-riding model on which it has slapped the “R” badge. Meet the first-ever T-Roc R, a not-for-America performance crossover you could describe as a Golf R on stilts. It may not look like the all-paw hot hatchback, but it’s packing the very same turbocharged 2.0-liter gasoline engine with 300 horsepower and 295 pound-feet (400 Newton-meters) of torque.

Aside from borrowing its TSI engine, the T-Roc R has taken the 4Motion all-wheel-drive system and the seven-speed DSG, while the brakes are sourced from the Golf R equipped with the optional Performance Package. Interestingly, VW will give drivers brave enough to do without the electronic nannies the possibility to switch off the traction control system.

In terms of performance, the VW T-Roc R needs only 4.9 seconds to complete the 0-62 mph (0-100 kph) run and it will reach an electronically governed top speed of 155 mph (250 kph).

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When it comes to the design, there are no surprises. A step up from the T-Roc R-Line, the fully fledged R version adopts more aggressive styling with generous air intakes up front and the quad tips at the back part of the Akrapovic titanium exhaust system. It sits as standard on 18-inch alloy wheels, but you can pay more and opt for a 19-inch set. Also part of the package is a stiffer suspension setup bringing the crossover closer to the road for more agile handling, which is also enhanced by the standard progressive steering system.

Bear in mind VW labels the T-Roc R as a near-production concept car, but as it was the case with the Golf GTI TCR that evolved from concept to production model, the final version should be virtually the same. We’ll first see the concept next month at the 2019 Geneva Motor Show, with sales of the showroom-ready model to commence towards the end of the year.

For our Italian-speaking audience, our colleagues at Motor1.com Italy had the chance to check out the VW T-Roc R up close and personal. See the video attached below.

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First revealed at the Geneva motor show in March, the T-Roc R looks set to become one of the major players in the burgeoning performance crossover market when it launches.

The T-Roc R is as closely related to the Golf R as lesser versions are to the regular Golf, sharing the same powertrain and base suspension components.

That means it has the VW Group’s EA888 2.0-litre turbocharged petrol engine – now fitted with a particulate filter and in 296bhp tune – part-time Haldex-based all-wheel drive and a seven-speed dual-clutch gearbox.

Volkswagen claims a 4.9sec 0-62mph time – 0.3sec slower than the Golf R but 0.3sec quicker than the Cupra Ateca – and a governed 155mph top speed.

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Despite a close hardware relationship with the Cupra – and the Audi SQ2 – settings are unique for each car. Although it sits higher than the Golf, the T-Roc R is 20mm closer to the ground than the standard T-Roc thanks to lower suspension and firmer settings. Passive dampers will be standard but VW’s DCC system will be an option.

The T-Roc R gets 18in wheels as standard, with 19s as an upgrade option. All versions will have the beefy 17in brakes from the Golf R Performance. A quad tailpipe exhaust sits below the rear bumper and there will be the option of an Akrapovic system.

Other visual changes include beefier bumpers, an anodised finish for the radiator grille, matt chrome mirror caps and R badges. The cabin gets some carbonfibre trim and a sportier steering wheel, plus the option of the Golf R’s sport seats. Pricing is unconfirmed, but expect the T-Roc R to start at around £35,000.

Q&A with Jost Capito, R division boss

What are the fundamentals of the R brand?

“It is all-wheel drive, it is sporty and – after discussions with customers in a lot of countries – we know they want to see cars around 300 horsepower. People say why not go higher, but we need to hit a certain price, a sweet spot: we sell more than 20,000 Golf Rs a year.”



How do you stop confusion with GTI models?

“Firstly, they have two-wheel drive, but also they are more extreme. The R models have to be less racy, but with the same capability or even more. They always have more horsepower but are more about everyday usage. A TCR or Clubsport is much more aggressive. The GTI is in Up, Polo and Golf – and we are saying that R is starting with Golf.”

So will there be several other R models?

“The task I’ve been given is to make R to Volkswagen what M is for BMW. That means different positioning from just having a Golf R. There will be a wider spread. For the future, the Golf and T-Roc will not be the only ones, that’s for sure.”






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That interior is awful.

That's been the one thing I've heard from folks who have driven one... It drives a golf, but interior finishes are a step down.

Still remain confused that this doesn't come to the US...
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Where should they price it? It’s a UteR. $45k? $50k? For me I’d take the Golf R because a lifted ute is designated 3 row duty only. If it ain’t got a third row not buying it. R Sportwagen please.
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That interior is awful.

That's been the one thing I've heard from folks who have driven one... It drives a golf, but interior finishes are a step down.

Still remain confused that this doesn't come to the US...
I don’t know looks like your standard VW/Audi, Porsche affair to me same old switch gear..materials etc. kinda see what your saying but Awful may be a little extreme.

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I really like VW's clean boxy lines.
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I'd buy this, but would rather have a Sportwagen that's actually sporty.
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