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Old 01-27-2019, 11:39 PM   #26
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^^^^because people, they are different, they need different things. Lots of people would buy the honda option because its more car like. Lots of people dont want to ride around in a live axle truck. They dont what that **** and thats as okay as you leghumping your tacoma.

Your views, they are very narrow.
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Old 01-28-2019, 12:08 AM   #27
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An AWD Ridgeline is rated 18/25/21.

A double cab 4WD Tacoma is rated between 18/22/20 and 17/20/18 depending on trim.

18 to 21 is a significant difference. 20 to 21 overall isn't, unless one is doing lots of highway miles to exploit that 22 vs 25 mpg difference.
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Old 01-28-2019, 01:17 AM   #28
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Fuel mileage and lethargic acceleration seem to be the biggest complaints with the new gen Tacoma. I thought the new setup was going to solve all that and was hoping it was going to find its way into the 4Run soon. Now Iím hoping it doesnít and Toyota comes up with something better.

Explaining the Ridgeline to people is like explaining wagons. If you have to explain, thereís no point to explaining.
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Old 01-28-2019, 09:54 AM   #29
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I drove my family of 4 on a 600 mile road trip in my 2019 Ridgeline RTL-T.
IT drove as well as my wife's 2018 Legacy Limited. Kids were in fantastic comfort and had so much room between them and under the seat for their stuff.

I averaged 29.4mpg on my trip. No taco will ever do that. It rides like a champ, it has the same SHAWD as the TL AWD does, and you can feel it.

The bed trunk is the most ingenious thing I have ever seen in a truck. While other brands offer you capabilities you will probably never use, the Ridgeline give you thoughtful options that actually make your life easier.

Has enough ground clearance to do many truck like things, has enough payload ability to many truck like things, hauls things in the bed easier than any other mid size truck with the widest bed of any other truck and low bed height.

It is as easy to park as an accord.
Say the new ranger at the auto show this week and the interior is laughably plastic, it has rubbish rear seat leg room and looked cheap. I was hoping to like it! But nope. The Taco is a very purpose built tool. It does not try to be anything but that, and I like that, but as much as I love the new blue TRD pro model, it would be totally inferior to the ridgeline for how I use it. I do not need a low range to rock crawl as cool as it is.

If you buy a truck for how you actually drive rather than how you want others to THINK you drive, 50% of all truck buyers would be in a ridgeline. FACT.


For the suburbs their is no better truck on the market today. I will stand by that. If you do not believe me, you are in denial and should re-read the bolded statement above.

If I ever get my 100 acre texas ranch I will Probably get a full size pickup. I had a 2014 4x4 F150 King Ranch. I enjoy my Ridgeline FAR more than I ever did my ecoboost King Ranch. It sucked to park and the doors were to heavy for my kids. Tail gate height made common loadingunloading harder.

I use the hell out of my Ridgleine. Have the bed full of something car or garden or wood related 3-4 times a month. Use the trunk in the bed almost every single day. It is a brilliant vehicle.

Having driven both the taco and Ridgeline, the taco drives like a body on frame truck from the 80's. You can feel the toughness. The Ridgleine feels refined and quiet by comparison.
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Old 01-28-2019, 10:14 AM   #30
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Driving dynamics.......The current Ridgeline is the best pavement handling truck on the market, period. SH-AWD with real torque vectoring on the rear half shafts. To it will oversteer into a turn. The AWD on it is as good as most anything out there. No it isn't the rock crawler choice. Honda did their R&D and figured out that 90+% do not go offroad, nor tow anything heavy. Yet the Ridgeline will do light off road duty just fine and tow 5000 lbs which is more than sufficient for most. If you don't understand this truck, and it is a truck, and actually safer than a ladder frame version (Unibody is far superior in high speed collisions), then you haven't driven it and are spewing the same nonsense that trucky truck insecure folks have done since the G1 debuted over a decade ago. As a previous G1 owner and a soon to be G2 owner I laugh at this.
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If you buy a truck for how you actually drive rather than how you want others to THINK you drive, 50% of all truck buyers would be in a ridgeline. FACT.

This. Well put.

And seconding your mention that the TRD Pro and ZR2 and all that, as cool as they are, and as off road featury as they are, dont get used nearly enough by most buyers to even justify being engineered in the first place.

People forget that the other trims of the same truck are quite off road capable while splitting the difference better and being more livable when youre not out mashing, which as we all know is the first thing I and most of us do with a shiny new, nearly $50k truck.

The Regular TRD and even the SR5 for that matter are both fantastic trucks and will do 100% of what 90% of buyers want, so will the LT and Z71. But they dont get the mega looks and acronyms and marketing.

Funniest thing is, most of the folks that went ZR2 crazy are now, without realizing it, looking for mods to make their ZR2 suspension less like the ZR2 suspension. People are adding airbags to fight the bed droop when loaded up with gear. You wanna be baja fashion boy? Its gonna cost you stuff like that. I imagine its the same story with TRD and the Raptor folks especially. Nobody tells you you have to rebuild your fancy raptor or ZR2 shocks every 20-30k miles....

The best mod is to get the best vehicle for you how you actually live and drive, not for some delusional commercial in your mind. The best thing most ZR2 buyers could have optioned was to go LT or Z71 instead.

Ive got the Colorado with the diesel and all Ive done to the suspension end of things is a set of nice bilstien 5100's set at 2" in the front, and bumped the tire size up to 31.5", that puts it pretty well on par with the Tacoma setup wise. Too bad you have to do this yourself but its pretty small yet the results are huge. Its amazing how Tacoma folks in particular get amazed with how well it does, yes it does well, but its more the belief that a Tacoma is the only thing that can do these things and be practical and reliable is stupid. A Tacoma is great but its an attainable goal for any mfr who chooses to go for it with intent to make a quality product. People now think that a non TRD or non ZR2 cant do offroad things, its kind of amazing. Marketing is power.
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Old 01-28-2019, 10:52 AM   #32
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Bottom line though, if I could have a Ridgeline, I would have a Ridgeline. Considering a used gen one for a daily, 70 mile roundtrip commute, but will likely go used legacy or outback for more mpg.
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Old 01-28-2019, 01:07 PM   #33
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I always think the Taco is the "real" truck but the Ridgeline is the "realistic" truck. The RL handles so much better and so much easier to live with daily. Maybe 3/4 of the Tacos never actually see off-road conditions regularly and the 1/4 that do, maybe half of that actually see real off road conditions to take advantage of its capability. The RL is capable of the off-road conditions most will ever see. I rarely see anyone towing in a Taco and when I do, it's not anything that a RL can't do.
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Old 01-28-2019, 03:13 PM   #34
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Anyway, to each their own.
I believe this was the main point from the start, so why the argument



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As the owner of a '17 trd pro... I respectfully acknowledge all the shortcomings my truck has that you guys expressed. Lol. A ridgeline would have done everything that I've asked for from the Toyota so far.
I'm in agreement that for most people the ridgeline is more than enough 'truck capable' for the masses - myself included. Doesn't mean I don't like my tacoma. :shrug:
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As the owner of a '17 trd pro... I respectfully acknowledge all the shortcomings my truck has that you guys expressed. Lol. A ridgeline would have done everything that I've asked for from the Toyota so far.
I'm in agreement that for most people the ridgeline is more than enough 'truck capable' for the masses - myself included. Doesn't mean I don't like my tacoma. :shrug:
I like your tacoma. It is an awesome truck. You should like it!
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Old 01-30-2019, 07:19 PM   #37
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Tacomas are awesome.. I just specifically didn't want the live-axle ride when I bought my Ridgeline.


Also, a few points to add here:
  1. technically the Ridgeline has more ground clearance than a Taco (at least, the 1st gen did).. but that's only a magazine racing stat, since the part on a Taco that's hanging lower is the rear diff housing.
  2. The Ridgeline has an integrated ladder frame built into the unibody. That's why it's got a higher payload than the competition.



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Old 01-31-2019, 10:37 AM   #38
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Calamity, it's just safer period for collisions. It got high marks for crash ratings iirc.
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The Ridgeline is Honda's worst vehicle in a crash test (against similar class vehicles*). It's still good for a truck, but ladder frames themselves are well known to be a liability in a crash due to their resistance to fold up neatly.


*obviously, anyone would rather be in a Ridgeline in a Ridgeline vs Fit collision.
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Thereís now a recall for the 2019 Ridgeline due to shredding timing belts.
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