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Old 11-30-2017, 07:42 PM   #1
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Default 2016 STI Build/Track Day Journal - Can't think of a clever name

Decided to make a build thread on here. Not much of a build though, so more just a collection of experiences and stuff with the car.



Build List

Engine/Drivetrain
-IAG Street Series AOS
-KillerB Oil Pick up tube
-KillerB Windage Tray
-STI Group N Transmission & Pitch Stop Mount
-Perrin Pitch Stop Mount Brace & Clutch Line
-Kartboy Front & Rear Shifter Bushings
-REMARK Axleback Exhaust

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-Whiteline Camber Bolts
-Whiteline Rear Lower Control Arms
-Swift Spec R Springs

Wheels/Tires
-18x8.5 +38 Work MCO Racing Wheels
-245/40R18 Zestino Gredge 07RS

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-Project Mu Club Racer Brake Pads (track)
-DBA T3 4000 Series Brake Rotors
-StopTech Stainless Steel Braided Brake Lines
-Motul RBF600 Fluid

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-OEM JDM Front Grille
-STI Front Lip/Side Skirts/Valences
-F1 Rear Fog Light
-Tail as Turn Signal Mod

Interior
-STI Aluminum/Leather Shift Knob
-JDM Leather Boost Gauge/Console Hood


Car History:

Grew up around cars. Got into drifting in ~2001 and spent a solid decade or so messing with 240s. Had an S14 for like 5 years that I messed with and drifted a bit. KA-T with GReddy TD06. HKS coilovers, Vertex Aero, Cusco sways, struts, arms, diff, etc etc etc.





Went through various stages over the years and then decided to part with it and move on.

After that I took a break from cars for a couple yearsand had '12 WRX with a couple basic bolt ons and then sold it and got an FR-S and started playing with drifting again.




After playing with that for a couple years, I decided that I was getting tired of buying cars and spending $15k-$20k+ modifying them and that I wanted something that was more "ready to go" from the factory. So I opted for a '16 STI.

Bought it July 2015. First 2016MY the dealership got.


Kept it stock for close to a year. Moved back to CA, added brake fluid and went to the track (Autoclub Speedway). Had a lot of fun but noticed a few things that definitely needed to be addressed before going back out.


Upgraded the pads, added an AOS, camber bolts and upgrade the oil pickup and went again a few months later. Car felt a lot better on corner entry, but still pushed a lot, even with a good amount of trailbraking. Brakes felt better too, but still not enough for a full session, since they were still technically street pads.

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Old 11-30-2017, 07:44 PM   #2
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Decided to get a little more deep into the car and upgraded the pads again along with rotors, lines, and did a fluid flush


Went ahead and got Kartboy shifter bushings and Group N mounts. Got some swift springs and whiteline LCAs and got the car aligned to help with the front end push. Also got some 18x8.5 Work MCO wheels for the car to change it up a bit. Was still running stock tires though. Made a trip to Monterey and had some fun at Laguna Seca. Car felt much better through the corners but the tires were trash. After a good amount of miles and heat cycles from previous track days, there wasn't really any grip left. So I didn't focus much on aiming for lap times and just enjoyed my time instead.



After that, I ditched the OEM tires and grabbed some Gredge 07RS from a good friend who works for Zestino.


Then I went to an event at Streets of Willow. Forecast initially looked like low 90s the week prior. High temps ended up being 110F+. The track had also just been resurfaced so it was pretty slick. That led to me not having a lot of grip and the car getting dangerously hot after just one lap, so I ended up leaving after just a couple sessions before I blew something.


Then I went back to Autoclub to see how the car felt with all the new changes. Conditions were much better. High temps for the day was around 80F. Car felt awesome. Brakes held up really well. Car rotated fairly well on turn in and stayed somewhat neutral. Still some push though. Grip for the new tires was awesome. I was able to trap 133mph through the bank, which is only a couple MPH less than what competent Nissan GTR drivers run with FBO+E85 and R Comps.


A couple weeks later, I went to a small event at Adam's Kart track in Riverside. Small little track that was pretty fun but the STI really doesn't like 20mph hairpins lol. You could feel the drivetrain bind up a bit. Overall though, it was a blast; especially considering it was only $40 for the entire night.


Car hasn't changed parts/setup wise since the tires got put on lol. Currently debating on what to do next with it. Been pretty happy with the car. Still stock engine wise. Just an axleback exhaust. Stock tune. Would eventually like to add a little more power, but still unsure what route to go. No interest in really going anything beyond the ~300whp area anyways.

I have another track day coming up in January then I'll be taking a break for probably the rest of the year. It's been hard doing all of these track days while being a full time employee and student lol. Next year I have licensing exams and stuff, so my focus has to be on that. Once all that's done, I'll probably get back into some track time.

If I could go all in, Varis CF hood, lip kit/diffsuer would be on the list along with some Advan RGD2s and Bilstein suspension components. Would also like to make a couple interior changes adding some alcantara and stuff. As far as the drivetrain goes, I'm stuck on what to do because I really don't want to spend the money on a built block, but sometimes you just don't know what you're going to get with the EJ. If I have to, I'd end up going with an iAG block and then the basic stuff with EL headers and upgraded cooling with a pretty conservative tune. But I bought the car to NOT spend so much money lol. I guess that's just the rabbit hole that is car modding though.

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Old 12-01-2017, 01:06 AM   #3
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Original Post updated

Here are the videos from track days:

2nd time at ACS: Lap timer app shows best time of 2:00 (though I think it's closer to 2:02 looking at video timestamps)

1st time at Laguna Seca: Best time was 1:53 (completely worn/heat cycled OEM Dunlop tires)

1st time at Streets of Willow: Best time of 1:33 (115F heat and track resurfaced, with car definitely pulling timing)

3rd time at ACS: Best time of 1:58 (Got an external mic so the sound is actually good here)

1st time at Adam's Kart Track: Best time of 46.2 seconds.

As I go to more events, I'll continue to post videos here.

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Old 12-01-2017, 05:47 AM   #4
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Nice vids! Cool to see what these things are capable of in close-to-stock form.
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Old 12-03-2017, 07:23 PM   #5
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What are your thoughts on the Zestinos? The recent push from them marketing wise has been interesting
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Old 12-03-2017, 10:36 PM   #6
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Good stuff @track_subies approved.
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Old 12-04-2017, 10:14 AM   #7
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Nice vids! Cool to see what these things are capable of in close-to-stock form.
For sure. I think a good AOS, oil pickup, and some high temp brake fluid are all the car really NEEDS to get out on a track reliably for a day on a typical road course. If you're a competent driver and/or the track is fairly tough on brakes, the pads are a good choice too.

Otherwise, you don't really need anything else. It's all just extra stuff.

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What are your thoughts on the Zestinos? The recent push from them marketing wise has been interesting
I like them. I came from drifting and I still have a lot of friends who actively drift at events and comps and stuff. The Zestinos are very popular among that crowd and I was able to get a set for cheap.

Grip wise, I'd say they're easily up there with the RS3s, AD08R, ZII SS, etc. The sidewalls are VERY VERY stiff, so the ride is a bit more firm than stock, but the turn in is immediate and awesome. Also, surprisingly, the tires have been pretty quiet. I have a couple thousand miles on them right now with 2 track days and I'd say they're still quieter than the OEM Dunlops were after they had some mileage on them.

For a DD, I think the 07R (240tw) tire is a great choice. Tread design and everything is the same, just a harder compound. The 07RS is a 140tw compound so it's quite a bit softer and it'll wear quicker for sure.

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Good stuff @track_subies approved.
Thanks! I just joined the group on FB last night. Wish I had known about it earlier lol
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Old 12-04-2017, 11:27 AM   #8
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Thanks for the tire info. I've been looking for something for next summer. I've had AD08r and RE-11a and looking for something new
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Old 12-04-2017, 12:54 PM   #9
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Nice seeing someone using the car on basically a stock platform putting it through it's pace's. Proving my point that a stock car with few upgrades can still be fun. Nice work!
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Old 12-04-2017, 02:37 PM   #10
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Thanks for the tire info. I've been looking for something for next summer. I've had AD08r and RE-11a and looking for something new
For sure. The 07RS is definitely better than the old RE11s. Even AD08s are becoming an aged design lol. They're great tires though. I'm happy with the 07RS for my purposes; good grip and steering response while appearing to have good wear and not too punishing for street use.

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Nice seeing someone using the car on basically a stock platform putting it through it's pace's. Proving my point that a stock car with few upgrades can still be fun. Nice work!
Thanks! The car is definitely fun out of the box. Just a couple small things can make a big difference, especially for reliability/durability. I think become so focused on adding everything they can because the forum says so and they end up doing more harm than good.

$1,000 coilovers with giant wheels and 265 width tires and a bunch of power and a fat rear sway bar etc etc etc and while it looks good on paper, it isn't a cohesive package and it doesn't really work.

People just need to get out and drive these things.
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Old 12-04-2017, 02:39 PM   #11
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For sure. The 07RS is definitely better than the old RE11s. Even AD08s are becoming an aged design lol. They're great tires though. I'm happy with the 07RS for my purposes; good grip and steering response while appearing to have good wear and not too punishing for street use.







Thanks! The car is definitely fun out of the box. Just a couple small things can make a big difference, especially for reliability/durability. I think become so focused on adding everything they can because the forum says so and they end up doing more harm than good.



$1,000 coilovers with giant wheels and 265 width tires and a bunch of power and a fat rear sway bar etc etc etc and while it looks good on paper, it isn't a cohesive package and it doesn't really work.



People just need to get out and drive these things.


Agreed. What’s your thoughts on the swift r springs on stock struts? I contemplated this setup but read a lot of mixed reviews.
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Old 12-04-2017, 03:58 PM   #12
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Agreed. What’s your thoughts on the swift r springs on stock struts? I contemplated this setup but read a lot of mixed reviews.
They're good. At low speeds over rough roads, you can definitely tell the springs are stiffer. The ride is almost bouncy.

At higher speeds, it's no big deal. Still stiff, but not punishing. The major reason I chose them was because of the use of a stiffer rear spring over front, as opposed to a stiffer front like everybody else does.

I really wanted to make the car feel more neutral and between the springs and an alignment change, it feels really good. Of course the car still has a tendency to push mid corner/corner exit, but it's not overpowering like it used to be. Also, the car is really eager to turn in and rotate now with some trail braking.

I'd say it's a great option for somebody looking for a simple setup to DD with. I'm considering a change/upgrade in the future though.
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Old 12-04-2017, 05:24 PM   #13
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They're good. At low speeds over rough roads, you can definitely tell the springs are stiffer. The ride is almost bouncy.



At higher speeds, it's no big deal. Still stiff, but not punishing. The major reason I chose them was because of the use of a stiffer rear spring over front, as opposed to a stiffer front like everybody else does.



I really wanted to make the car feel more neutral and between the springs and an alignment change, it feels really good. Of course the car still has a tendency to push mid corner/corner exit, but it's not overpowering like it used to be. Also, the car is really eager to turn in and rotate now with some trail braking.



I'd say it's a great option for somebody looking for a simple setup to DD with. I'm considering a change/upgrade in the future though.


That’s what I’ve heard. I decided to go with fortune auto 500 gen 6 coilovers with 7k swift spring upgrade and radial bearings. They ride really nice for daily driving and handle whatever I throw at it. Although at times, I think about if I should have went with the swift r springs.
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Old 12-04-2017, 06:18 PM   #14
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That's what I've heard. I decided to go with fortune auto 500 gen 6 coilovers with 7k swift spring upgrade and radial bearings. They ride really nice for daily driving and handle whatever I throw at it. Although at times, I think about if I should have went with the swift r springs.
I think it just depends on what your goals/priorities are with the car.

I didn't want to go with aftermarket coilovers unless I get a higher end setup. Also, I would prefer to stick with OEM type tophats.

Recently, I've been eyeing the Bilstein B12 kit. Comes with different shocks and Eibach springs. They're not adjustable height wise, yet the product description says that they lower the car 20-40mm, so I'm curious if the Bilstein shocks are slightly shorter than OEM. If so, then how much lower would it sit paired with my swift springs? Compared to right now, I'd be willing to go another 10mm lower or so, but that's it.

If I went that route, I'd pair the shocks with my springs if possible, then add Whiteline topmast so I can have more adjustment over camber and caster. I think that'd make for a great DD setup with the intention of some track time as well. Don't really need height adjustment and don't really care to play with bump/rebound settings. I'd rather spend that time on track improving and getting seat time, ya know?

I haven't been in a WRX/STI with FA coilovers, so I can't comment. However, I've ridden/driven numerous 240s that ran them and they seemed pretty much the same as the other coilovers in that price range.
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Old 12-06-2017, 01:47 PM   #15
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I really dig the blue with white wheels. very nice.
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Old 12-12-2017, 07:20 PM   #16
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I really dig the blue with white wheels. very nice.
Thanks!

I like the color combo but it's such a pain to keep clean, especially with the more aggressive pads. I added a coating which I hoped would help with making it easier to clean off, but it didn't do much.

Truth be told, I'm thinking about switching to something different.
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I’m trying to follow your build as my plans for my sti is same as yours
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