Toyota GR Corolla: Automatic Transmission Set For 2024 Release Date

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Originally Posted by Snow Drift

As someone who is also hurting from Tesla depreciation, I would just say, lease. It never made sense to buy an EV (although I've done it twice haha).

Yup, 100%. I don’t understand how people didn’t do the research on depreciation, especially the traders who only keep a car a short 2-3 year span. It’s on them. EV’s have always depreciated significantly compared to other types of vehicles. I knew this over 10 years ago when I got mine. I leased it from them and let them eat all the depreciation then at lease end I bought it for peanuts.

I’m almost ready to upgrade. It’s been 10 years and my rural property = need some more range. A new battery pack is 10k, and that would get me to 150 mile range or so. But for an extra 5k I can just get a MY2023, top trim, 240 mile range. I’m already finding them, 1 model year old with 12k miles for 20.9k. I think it’s in the top 10 for fast depreciating models and that is good thing for me, not bad, because I’ll pick one up used this time instead of leasing first. I love the EV for DD and boring mundane driving because I make my own juice. So the fact that most EV’s depreciate massively, well the smart buyer can turn the cards on the house.

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[Snow Drift]

Originally Posted by Pre

Yup, 100%. I don't understand how people didn't do the research on depreciation, especially the traders who only keep a car a short 2-3 year span. It's on them. EV's have always depreciated significantly compared to other types of vehicles. I knew this over 10 years ago when I got mine. I leased it from them and let them eat all the depreciation then at lease end I bought it for peanuts.

I'm almost ready to upgrade. It's been 10 years and my rural property = need some more range. A new battery pack is 10k, and that would get me to 150 mile range or so. But for an extra 5k I can just get a MY2023, top trim, 240 mile range. I'm already finding them, 1 model year old with 12k miles for 20.9k. I think it's in the top 10 for fast depreciating models and that is good thing for me, not bad, because I'll pick one up used this time instead of leasing first. I love the EV for DD and boring mundane driving because I make my own juice. So the fact that most EV's depreciate massively, well the smart buyer can turn the cards on the house.

Part of the problem is that Teslas became so expensive. My first 2020 Model Y cost almost $10k less than similar model in 2022. So, it seemed like an opportunity to get out of a lease with excess mileage and into the used market...then the IRA became eligible for Tesla (no one expected), and the current price wars happened. Live and learn. Hopefully over the next few years things will settle down and the market might stabilize.

[SCRAPPYDO]

Well I wish you guys good luck with all your trade and decisions. Sometimes we win in the purchase and others not so much. Nobody bats 1000 all the time. Hope you guys get a good deal and still keep enjoy driving.

[samagon]

Originally Posted by quentinberg007

What is killing his joy of ownership is the $15k+ value it has lost in those 2 years. It's less of the actual cost and more of the case where he will realize that cost if/when he wants something different.

I think some of it comes down to the prices of new EVs being a bit volatile, and you can't pin it all on one brand, there's a lot of fluctuation right now. for example, the Mach E has nothing to do with any South African billionaires, yet it has seen slashes where it initially was offered for close to 50, and you can get it now for close to 40, plus an insane pre-post-covid interest rate of near 0. leasing an EV right now might as well be free for as cheap as it is.

I think most of the resale value slump is down to the tax credit. sure it's great to get that $7500 off the top when you buy new, but then think about the person trying to sell a used EV.

for that used EV to hold the value the price of a new EV has to be high enough to entice someone to go buy it used, or another way of saying it, why would I go buy a used Leaf for 24,000 when I can go buy a new one for 28,000 and then get a 3750 tax credit applied immediately to the sale price?

if that used Leaf is 20,000, or lower, then you can maybe suck me in, but that's what happens here. and then that also sucks the whole used EV market down with it.

so the tax credit you get on a new vehicle really isn't a tax credit for you cause that price reduction you paid sticks with that vehicle, what it ends up being in practice is the government paying each manufacturer for every EV they sell.

if we want to see some natural depreciation for EVs, then the tax credit needs to go away.

incidentally, the tax rebate is also why Tesla was changing the prices of their cars overnight, if I understood it correctly, they had to be low enough price to qualify.

[Snow Drift]

Originally Posted by SCRAPPYDO

Well I wish you guys good luck with all your trade and decisions. Sometimes we win in the purchase and others not so much. Nobody bats 1000 all the time. Hope you guys get a good deal and still keep enjoy driving.

My Crosstrek Hybrid sale during the pandemic was a big win, which helped me get into a Giulia. So, sometimes it works. But, this EV stuff is a major burn because it is company inflicted. They lowered MSRP so much in 2023, which almost never happens.

[VarmintCong]

Originally Posted by Snow Drift

My Crosstrek Hybrid sale during the pandemic was a big win, which helped me get into a Giulia. So, sometimes it works. But, this EV stuff is a major burn because it is company inflicted. They lowered MSRP so much in 2023, which almost never happens.

Yeah we lucked out too, buying two cars in 2020 at decent discounts and then selling them both in 2022 (because we moved overseas), my Si sold to Carmax for above what I paid.

EVs are in trouble cause carmakers listened to governments instead of consumers. They are migrating their lineup to EVs before they have buyers for them. It’s going to be great for EV shoppers, with huge selection and crazy cheap prices, but automakers are going to get killed.

I’d totally buy a Giulia if the dealership wasn’t an hour away.

[Snow Drift]

Originally Posted by VarmintCong

Yeah we lucked out too, buying two cars in 2020 at decent discounts and then selling them both in 2022 (because we moved overseas), my Si sold to Carmax for above what I paid.

EVs are in trouble cause carmakers listened to governments instead of consumers. They are migrating their lineup to EVs before they have buyers for them. It’s going to be great for EV shoppers, with huge selection and crazy cheap prices, but automakers are going to get killed.

I’d totally buy a Giulia if the dealership wasn’t an hour away.

An hour isn't bad. In 24 months I didn't have any issues. Just went for oil changes. I had one CEL, which was actually just a software update alert (weird way to do that lol).

[Kostamojen]

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[chanomatik]

Not that anyone asked, but I've finally had opportunities to view the Core and Circuit Edition in person in the past two days or so. My verdict: Without the bulged hood the GRC is super ugly to me. It's disproportionate without the bulged, vented hood. The CE I saw also had the raised spoiler.

I thought about this when I initially saw them in pics. Seeing them in person confirmed it for me. The Cores look unfinished. It's like they were literally designed from the ground up and funding ran out halfway up. Think of it as the opposite of the VB WRX.

The GRC CE was in the Heavy Metal color and it was le tits now.

[855T]

Originally Posted by chanomatik

Not that anyone asked, but I've finally had opportunities to view the Core and Circuit Edition in person in the past two days or so. My verdict: Without the bulged hood the GRC is super ugly to me. It's disproportionate without the bulged, vented hood. The CE I saw also had the raised spoiler.

I thought about this when I initially saw them in pics. Seeing them in person confirmed it for me. The Cores look unfinished. It's like they were literally designed from the ground up and funding ran out halfway up. Think of it as the opposite of the VB WRX.

The GRC CE was in the Heavy Metal color and it was le tits now.

I bought the CE hood because I agree the car looked weird without it. I'm torn on the wing - I think I want one still but the car is looking normal without it now.

[Calamity Jesus]

Originally Posted by Kostamojen

http://youtu.be/6RIMeU1BjnY?

Finally watched this. 3 seconds (2sec/min) is a beatdown of epic proportions.

[quentinberg007]

Originally Posted by chanomatik

Not that anyone asked, but I've finally had opportunities to view the Core and Circuit Edition in person in the past two days or so. My verdict: Without the bulged hood the GRC is super ugly to me. It's disproportionate without the bulged, vented hood. The CE I saw also had the raised spoiler.

I thought about this when I initially saw them in pics. Seeing them in person confirmed it for me. The Cores look unfinished. It's like they were literally designed from the ground up and funding ran out halfway up. Think of it as the opposite of the VB WRX.

The GRC CE was in the Heavy Metal color and it was le tits now.

You’re ugly!

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[chanomatik]

Still better than my try-hard Impreza.

Keep her clean. Keep us posted on progress.

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Originally Posted by chanomatik

Not that anyone asked, but I've finally had opportunities to view the Core and Circuit Edition in person in the past two days or so. My verdict: Without the bulged hood the GRC is super ugly to me. It's disproportionate without the bulged, vented hood. The CE I saw also had the raised spoiler.

I thought about this when I initially saw them in pics. Seeing them in person confirmed it for me. The Cores look unfinished. It's like they were literally designed from the ground up and funding ran out halfway up. Think of it as the opposite of the VB WRX.

The GRC CE was in the Heavy Metal color and it was le tits now.

I've seen all 3 Core colors for MY2023. They all looked great. It's a sleeper and not supposed to be shouty and "Look at me!" The GR Yaris didn't have hood louvres so your deal is a nothing burger and most disagree with you.

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The Supersonic Red looks outstanding in person as well.

[chanomatik]

GR Yaris is a tiny car that looks fine without a hood bulge. There's barely any real estate, unlike the Corolla hood.

And I've lived most of my life with disagreements. That's never been my concern. What I care about is understanding differing perspectives and encouraging others to share them, especially if I don't agree.

GYAT! That Heavy Metal looks great!

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Meh. Cars are to drive. And performance cars are built to drive in anger through corners. The drive > looks. Getting hung up on this or that minute detail, big time meh. The way to buy this car is to get a premium, as for the dollar it’s the best package. CE hood with parts, painted, etc, $1200. Japanese spec doesn’t have the rear wing. It’s irrelevant and the vents are more for show than go. They say “heat extraction” but the GRY didn’t get them and there is no issue, stock, or heavily modded so it’s pure fodder. Had I found a SR Core last year with just the PP and CWP I would have bought it and modded it but April of 2022 was when they showed the HM CE the first time and that bish had me at hello. I’ve already pushed the thing to its limit and the suspension is holding me back. F a bunch of commuter miles in the thing, driving it to the shops, the store, whatever, lame ass driving that is and a waste of time, gas, and tires. These gold beotches are to be released in the next 60 days and she’ll go faster.

[SoDealer]

Officially official:
https://www.autoblog.com/2024/08/01/...s-trim-levels/

2025 Toyota GR Corolla gets available automatic and more torque

Toyota also made design and suspension updates
Ronan Glon
Aug 1nd 2024 at 10:30PM

Confirming an earlier rumor, Toyota has announced that the GR Corolla will be available with an automatic transmission for the 2025 model year. The hot hatch also receives mechanical updates that unlock more torque, suspension upgrades, and a new range-topping trim level.

While the turbo-three continues to come standard with a six-speed stick, buyers who would rather not shift their own gears can order an eight-speed automatic packed with what sounds like some pretty advanced technology. Toyota notes that this isn't the same gearbox it puts in the GR Supra and in the GR86, and the software that operates it analyzes pedal inputs to decide when it needs to shift up or down.

Regardless of pedal count, power comes from a 1.6-liter turbocharged three-cylinder engine rated at 300 horsepower and 295 pound-feet of torque. Horsepower stays flat compared to the 2024 model, but torque increases from 273 - the bump brings the 2025 GR Corolla in line with the Morizo Edition model. Toyota also added front and rear rebound springs to keep inner wheel lift in check, tweaked the rear suspension to improve handling while cornering, and raised the trailing arm mounting point to reduce rear squat under heavy acceleration.

Every 2025 GR Corolla regardless of trim or transmission comes standard with front and rear limited-slip differentials. For 2024, the limited-slip diffs were bundled into the base trim's optional Performance Package and made standard on the Premium and Circuit Edition models.

Visual changes are part of the 2025 updates as well, and they're not there just to let owners tell the world they've got the newest model. Toyota redesigned the front bumper to improve cooling; it needed to factor in the radiator, the intercooler, the brake ducts, the sub-radiator that's newly available for 2025, and the transmission fluid cooler that comes standard when buyers select the eight-speed automatic.

Buyers will have three trim levels called Core, Premium, and Premium Plus, respectively, to choose from. New for 2025, the Premium Plus model sits at the top of the range and includes some of the features previously found on limited-edition models. It notably comes standard with a carbon fiber roof panel, a hood with functional vents and a bulge that comes from the Morizo Edition, and flat black-finished wheels.

The 2025 Toyota GR Corolla will land in showrooms in late 2024. Pricing will be announced closer to its on-sale date, and every purchase will include a complimentary one-year membership to the National Auto Sport Association plus a free one-day performance driving event.

[chanomatik]

Dang. The standard bits are only improving. I love to see it.

Dealer mark-ups, don't really love to see those.

[Kostamojen]

Reviews of the Yaris auto say its pretty meh.

That new front bumper is aggressive as hell. A bit too much black up front.

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[OldBlu]

I love that the core comes with the LSDs standard. If the price stays low and mark ups aren't too bad, I might be considering one of these in the spring.

[VarmintCong]

Originally Posted by chanomatik

Dang. The standard bits are only improving. I love to see it.

Dealer mark-ups, don't really love to see those.

Where’s the friggin center arm rest, come on Toyota?

[VarmintCong]

Originally Posted by chanomatik

Dang. The standard bits are only improving. I love to see it.

Dealer mark-ups, don't really love to see those.

Where’s the friggin center arm rest, come on Toyota?

I just spent 6 weeks in the US, local Honda dealers didn’t ever get a Type R for me to sit in but the Toyota dealership had a GRC in the showroom. I like it.

Will probably still get the Type R next summer when we move back to the US.

[Brahmzy]

Originally Posted by heavyD

I don't care for the new WRX but I would stop short of calling it a puke bucket.

Barf bucket?

[quentinberg007]

Originally Posted by chanomatik

Dang. The standard bits are only improving. I love to see it.

Dealer mark-ups, don't really love to see those.

Most are getting them for MSRP or less now.


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Fully MY2025 and DAT specs with prices released today.
https://pressroom.toyota.com/ready-t...tion-and-more/