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Old 12-06-2007, 09:35 PM   #1
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Okay, so I am anxiously awaiting Christmas (And the bonus that it brings ) and have finally decided to start increasing HP on my WRX. Right now the only mods are a SPT Intake and the catback exhaust. I have been looking at two different setups.

1.) Cobb SS 3" Downpie
Cobb Turbo Uppipe
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2.) Just the Cobb AP.

Trust me, if I could purchase both right now, I would. However, I can't. Any thoughts as to what would be the better option for me as far as power is concerned. I'm looking to pay $1,000.00 or less (less would be better) Are there better choices for less money?
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Old 12-06-2007, 09:41 PM   #2
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Well if you only have $1K I suggest the COBB AP V2. I run the COBB 3" SS Catted and I have a tiny leak where it mates up to SPT Axel back.

You could get a cheaper DP & the AP and run a Stage 2 map. COBB's not cheap.
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Old 12-06-2007, 09:42 PM   #3
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doesn't cobb sell the stage 2 set which is the accessport and a downpipe for a little over 1k? why not go for that?
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Old 12-06-2007, 09:44 PM   #4
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get an ebay dp, thats what i have, and find an upipe here on the forums

and then get the ap, and you still havent spent more than 800 depending on where you get your ap...

$90 ebay dp..
$50-100 up..
$550-650 ap...
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Old 12-06-2007, 10:24 PM   #5
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get used dp, possibly on up but i'd just get new, then get tactrix cable for 100 bucks and buy the xpt map
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Old 12-06-2007, 10:28 PM   #6
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Trust me, you do not need to get anything new. $1k can get you a lot. Try getting used turboback and add the ap. you'll love it.
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Old 12-06-2007, 11:54 PM   #7
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get used dp, possibly on up but i'd just get new, then get tactrix cable for 100 bucks and buy the xpt map
That's what I did, and I'm way happy with it. I spent less than $500.00 and got great results.
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Old 12-07-2007, 12:06 AM   #8
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Get used parts and be done with it. $1000 can buy you a decent TBE and possibly V1 AP.
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Old 12-07-2007, 01:10 AM   #9
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Dude,
If it's gotta be one or the other get the AP... You shouldn't be runnin a turbo back without engine management anyway. Unless you plan on getting a tactrix cable and open source ECU software, but I don't think this is the best path for you, you might pop your motor. I should be able to get you an AP for 600 (Brand new, not a great deal but 100 off) and you should be able to get a nice DP with the remaining 400 to get you to stage 2. Stage 2 is pretty fun and should put you right where I think you want to be.

If you're interested PM me and we'll talk.

Edit: By the way I wouldn't recommend getting an Ebay exhaust... I'm a strong believer in "You get what you pay for"
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Old 12-07-2007, 03:14 AM   #10
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suspension then power is what I think.
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Old 12-07-2007, 10:01 AM   #11
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you can get a used catless dp here for around 150, or pay 200-250 new for a Helix/Invidia. If you dont feel comfortable using something like Enginuity (which is as easy as an AP just with a couple extra steps) with an OTS shelf like XPT (which will run you less than 150 in parts and the map), then spend the rest of your money on a Cobb AP. Otherwise, at the most, you have spent 400 of your 1000 budget. Take the other 600 and invest in some good springs, strut/sway bars and endlinks. maybe a kartboy SS/bushings if you dont have one yet.
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Old 12-07-2007, 12:43 PM   #12
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For less than 900.00 I got a catted downpipe, STi intercooler/splitter, installation and a protune. A good open-source tune from a reputable tuner is a good alternative to buying an AP.
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Old 12-07-2007, 03:44 PM   #13
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suspension then power is what I think.
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I'd have to strongly agree to this, since all the power you are putting goes straight to the tires and chasis, why not build a steady base to maximize what power you have right now?

If you have about 1k to spend, I would suggest:

Tires/Wheels
-Wheel optional, but defintily Tires

Brake upgrades
-so you can stop

Suspension
-Sways, Strut bars, endlinks, springs/Struts

Now your future power upgrades have a solid base to build on.

Just my .02
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Old 12-07-2007, 05:24 PM   #14
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doesn't cobb sell the stage 2 set which is the accessport and a downpipe for a little over 1k? why not go for that?
No closer to $2K
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Old 12-07-2007, 05:57 PM   #15
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suspension then power is what I think.
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Old 12-07-2007, 06:32 PM   #16
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If you're freaked out by openecu, you can get a used version 1 AP for $400 max.

+3212198 on the ebay DP. Get an ERZ. Cheap and pretty good quality. It will mate up fine up to your catback (even though the DP is a full 3"). You can also get a DP/UP combo for pretty cheap.
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Old 12-07-2007, 06:58 PM   #17
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Old 12-07-2007, 07:03 PM   #18
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downpipe, rear sway bar, and opensource tune from a shop.
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Old 12-07-2007, 08:20 PM   #19
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I wouldn't slap any larger sized downpipe on your car without some sort of engine management. I went through this too because the 04/05 Imprezas have a problem with modifications without a tune. It will not turn out good. Just look into some used parts. I got my AP for 300 bucks but it is a V1.
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Old 12-07-2007, 08:31 PM   #20
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Definitely get the AP!! Well Worth it!!

I paid:

$700 - AP (Brand New)
$200 - Cat-back (Used)
(Free) - DP (but is only bout $100)
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Old 12-07-2007, 08:37 PM   #21
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suspension then power is what I think.

I almost agree with this statement
Brakes first then suspention
power is worthless if you can't contain it
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Old 12-07-2007, 08:48 PM   #22
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^----I agree with having a suspension to match the power but... not just the rear swaybar, endlinks, etc. I have a Whiteline adj swaybar in back w/helix endlinks and upgraded mounts. If you don't like massive oversteer then this setup is not for you. If I had the money, I'd also add a mellow front swaybar for hard driving conditions and to make the gf happy.
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Old 12-07-2007, 09:02 PM   #23
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Don't get an AP....half of that will get you a great tune from a tuner!!!

Get a used catted DP, a grimmspeed up-pipe, and an opensource protune
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go on a diet... weight reduction!
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