Weight Reduction - Page 3

aspera · 02-10-2003, 03:49 AM

Hey, back to the door handles for a second, do the doors feel flimsy?

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aspera · 02-10-2003, 04:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Need4Boost

How hard was it to remove the cruise control and A/C setup.

The cruise control is super easy. I removed it and put it back on.

It seemed to be a large function trade-off for a small weight loss. That all depends on where you drive.

If you commute to work and only drive long distances a few times a year, then you could easily install it only when needed.

in no particular order:

1. Unplug cruise control box, don't lose the rubber seal for the connector
2. Unbolt it.
3. Unscrew it from the throttle bracket.
4. Unhook it from the throttle body.

imprezive · 02-10-2003, 04:18 AM

Any body switch out Power window doors for manual ones. Or if you are really hard core. Just take out the hole door panels.
I'm thinking when My car is old and payed off, and I'm buying a STi, about stripping my car ALL THE WAY, and just using it for AutoX or whatever.

ellisnc · 02-10-2003, 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by aspera
Hey, back to the door handles for a second, do the doors feel flimsy?

you mean after you remove the brackets? Mine don't because I have the speakers removed too. I can really feel the weight difference when closing the door!

aspera · 02-10-2003, 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by imprezive
Anybody switch out power window doors for manual ones? Or if you are really hard core, just take out the whole door panels.
I'm thinking when my car is old and paid off, and I'm buying an STi, about stripping my car ALL THE WAY, and just using it for AutoX or whatever.

If you were really hardcore, you'd remove all of the windows. Who would know, right? Besides, if you remove the A/C, then it makes a lot of sense.

ellisnc · 02-10-2003, 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by aspera

The cruise control is super easy. I removed it and put it back on. It seemed to be a large function trade-off for a small weight loss. That all depends on where you drive.

If you commute to work and only drive long distances a few times a year, then you could easily install it only when needed.

in no particular order:

1. Unplug cruise control box, don't lose the rubber seal for the connector
2. Unbolt it.
3. Unscrew it from the throttle bracket.
4. Unhook it from the throttle body.

I have a Type RA Spec C steering wheel which also comes in the S202 and since it has no place for the cruise switch why should I leave the unit under the hood?

ImprezedRS · 02-10-2003, 02:00 PM

Well most power window unit these days way as much or less than the manual units, so that I wouldn't do. I havn't removed my cruise control since I like it. I will be going on a all out interior stripping again this weekend to remove some extra wires and stuff and will see what else I can find.

NeoGeo · 02-10-2003, 02:14 PM

Cruise control only goes to 80mph. Not that much use under "certain" circumstances.

ImprezedRS · 02-10-2003, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NeoGeo
Cruise control only goes to 80mph. Not that much use under "certain" circumstances.

Are you sure about that? When I drove back from Ashville once at 2am I had the cruise controll set a 90mph the whole way back.

DoinkMobb · 02-10-2003, 08:33 PM

I would have left out the carpeting after scraping out the sound deadening, but the bare metal looks like ASS now. There's some plastic snap-on thingies that hold down some wires or something, and heating vents that go towards the back of the car.

I'm sure my GF would complain every time she got in the car too.

NeoGeo · 02-10-2003, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Are you sure about that? When I drove back from Ashville once at 2am I had the cruise controll set a 90mph the whole way back.

Hmmm...looking at your profile you're driving a 2.5RS...I'm talking about the WRX. Maybe it's different? I remember reading something about the 80mph speed limit on this site, plus when I tried in mine I kept pressing the accel botton but it never went beyond 80.

ImprezedRS · 02-10-2003, 11:17 PM

well maybe Neo, there is a lot of things different

dust12 · 02-11-2003, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by NeoGeo

Hmmm...looking at your profile you're driving a 2.5RS...I'm talking about the WRX. Maybe it's different? I remember reading something about the 80mph speed limit on this site, plus when I tried in mine I kept pressing the accel botton but it never went beyond 80.

Cruise control on WRX WILL go higher then 80...It was working at 85 just this morning. There was a thread awhile ago that said you cant set the cruise after a particular speed like 85 or something but you can set it at a lower speed such as 80 and use the accelleration on the cruise control to go as high as you want.

bemani · 02-11-2003, 01:33 PM

There are more things for cruise control that you can take out - 2 electronic modules next to the driver side door that you can remove, and if you want to be real thorough, all the harness for it too. Plus there's a clutch and brake switch somewhere down there.

I replaced the cc button with the plain cover cap - that's like 1oz weight saving

Too bad the fuse for cc is together with something else other wise I can unplug that and save another oz

NeoGeo · 02-11-2003, 01:53 PM

Okay I'll try to give that cruise control thing another shot...anyway right now it's replaced by the zerosport push-start button, plus TXS map selector

yebokmj · 02-11-2003, 02:05 PM

delete

dust12 · 02-11-2003, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by yebokmj
When I drive my car I drive it completely naked so as not to add any excess weight. I only carry my licence so not to have the added weight of the wallet or bills. My key isn't on a key chain or with anything else so I don't have to worry about that weight. I also will make sure I am completely clean shaven top to bottom and my toe nails are as short as possible. I visit the restrooms as well before a drive to also help rid my body of excess weight.
Joshua

I would take this 1 step farther - Don't drive your car at all. Llet super models in bikinis drive it because they weigh less.

aspera · 02-12-2003, 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ellisnc

you mean after you remove the brackets? Mine don't because I have the speakers removed too. I can really feel the weight difference when closing the door!

I wish I would have done that instead of buying rear speakers. Rear speakers are pretty useless. Oh well, I guess I can do that next time if I get an STi.

aspera · 02-12-2003, 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ImprezedRS

Are you sure about that? When I drove back from Ashville once at 2am I had the cruise controll set a 90mph the whole way back.

Oh no! Not the cruise control debate again! Let me just skip to the punchline and state that the cruise control works until 88 mph, at which point you will be sent back in time to 1955.

http://wavcentral.com/cgi-bin/log/lo...kftr/88mph.mp3

aspera · 02-12-2003, 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bemani
Too bad the fuse for cc is together with something else other wise I can unplug that and save another oz

That takes the cake.

Those are about the smallest, lightest parts on the whole car.

ellisnc · 02-12-2003, 07:27 AM

yeah the problem is even if you're planning on keeping you car and you strip it down and start taking circuits out of the wire harness is that puts you right into prepared class at auto-x... Believe me, if you've taken out the wires for the A/C compressor and Cruise or even cut them off you will be protested sooner or later... that's pretty easy to spot.

bcblues · 02-12-2003, 08:59 AM

Here are some other weight saving mods that many don’t think of:
1) remove all change from the center consol cup holder.
2) remove floor mats.
3) vacuum 5 pound of sand from floor.
4) remove parking and speeding tickets from glove box.
5) remove “heavy metal” cd’s from changer. Replace with “Air Supply”.
6) run 36 psi in each tire instead of 42 (save 6 pounds a corner!)
7) remove Scooby bobbly-head dog from rear shelf.
8) remove change from pockets (but I like the “drive nude” idea too).
9) remove air freshener from rearview mirror.
10) drive barefoot.
11) turn down your boost. No need to cart around those “extra pounds”.
12) retorque all bolt to half their recommended “foot-pounds”.
13) remove 2 lug nuts from each wheel.
14) while you are down there, remove the valve cap.
15) remove license plates.

aspera · 02-14-2003, 07:20 PM

#5 hahaha

http://www.airsupplymusic.com/

aspera · 02-18-2003, 03:53 AM

Guess what. I went about removing all of the extra (silver U shaped) door handle brackets tonight. While I was doing that I peeked inside the rear doors. I ended up finding big, heavy, black brackets for the rear (exterior) door handles. They are inside the rear part of the rear doors. You have to remove the screws from the lock assembly to get to one of the bolts, but it is really easy. I think they are there for theft protection because the lock is so close to the handle. The front doors don't use them, so I don't think they are there for structural reasons. The doors are still solid.

1. Remove door card.
2. Peel back plastic from top-rear of door.
3. Remove 3 silver screws from lock. These have red threadlock on them.
4. Remove bolt/screw on 'tail' of lock.
5. With nutdriver, remove 10mm bolts from door handle. There's one front and one rear bolt. DO NOT DROP.

6. Use magnet to remove drop bolts from inner door.
7. With 10mm wrench, remove last remaining nut for the big, black, useless doorhandle bracket.
8. Put crap all back together and go eat pizza.

EDIT: If you need to move the window up, the door switch has to be plugged in.

Disclaimer: This mod will make your car break/pollute/crash/explode/get stolen. It will be my fault because I told you how to unscrew something. Lefty loosey.

ellisnc · 02-18-2003, 07:17 AM

Aspera,

I'm assuming those other things you took out weigh more than the brackets?? The brackets don't weigh too much.

As soon as the snow melts and we get a little warmer here I'll look into the rear doors! thanks

Did you ever get that anti-theft metal in the steering column? You'll probably need an impact driver to remove the screws though.

02-11-2003, 02:05 PM	#66
yebokmj Scooby Specialist Member#: 2213 Join Date: Aug 2000 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Salem, NH USA Vehicle: 1995 Impreza w/EJ257 Brilliant Red	Driving my car delete Last edited by yebokmj; 06-13-2013 at 05:39 PM. Reason: Just saw this old roommate must have posted it

02-14-2003, 07:20 PM	#73
aspera Scooby Specialist Member#: 7879 Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: east of Zzyzx	Get the Led out!:) #5 hahaha http://www.airsupplymusic.com/

02-18-2003, 03:53 AM	#74
aspera Scooby Specialist Member#: 7879 Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: east of Zzyzx	Hey Ellis!:) Guess what. I went about removing all of the extra (silver U shaped) door handle brackets tonight. While I was doing that I peeked inside the rear doors. I ended up finding big, heavy, black brackets for the rear (exterior) door handles. They are inside the rear part of the rear doors. You have to remove the screws from the lock assembly to get to one of the bolts, but it is really easy. I think they are there for theft protection because the lock is so close to the handle. The front doors don't use them, so I don't think they are there for structural reasons. The doors are still solid. 1. Remove door card. 2. Peel back plastic from top-rear of door. 3. Remove 3 silver screws from lock. These have red threadlock on them. 4. Remove bolt/screw on 'tail' of lock. 5. With nutdriver, remove 10mm bolts from door handle. There's one front and one rear bolt. DO NOT DROP. 6. Use magnet to remove drop bolts from inner door. 7. With 10mm wrench, remove last remaining nut for the big, black, useless doorhandle bracket. 8. Put crap all back together and go eat pizza. EDIT: If you need to move the window up, the door switch has to be plugged in. Disclaimer: This mod will make your car break/pollute/crash/explode/get stolen. It will be my fault because I told you how to unscrew something. Lefty loosey. Last edited by aspera; 02-18-2003 at 04:02 AM.

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02-10-2003, 03:49 AM	#51
aspera Scooby Specialist Member#: 7879 Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: east of Zzyzx	Hey, back to the door handles for a second, do the doors feel flimsy? * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

02-10-2003, 04:18 AM	#53
imprezive Scooby Specialist Member#: 746 Join Date: Jan 2000 Chapter/Region: South East Location: FL	Any body switch out Power window doors for manual ones. Or if you are really hard core. Just take out the hole door panels. I'm thinking when My car is old and payed off, and I'm buying a STi, about stripping my car ALL THE WAY, and just using it for AutoX or whatever.

02-10-2003, 02:00 PM	#57
ImprezedRS Scooby Specialist Member#: 2771 Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Charlotte, NC Vehicle: 2003 BMW Z4 Blue	Well most power window unit these days way as much or less than the manual units, so that I wouldn't do. I havn't removed my cruise control since I like it. I will be going on a all out interior stripping again this weekend to remove some extra wires and stuff and will see what else I can find.

02-10-2003, 02:14 PM	#58
NeoGeo Scooby Specialist Member#: 3776 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: DC MD Vehicle: Take a wild guess	Cruise control only goes to 80mph. Not that much use under "certain" circumstances.

02-10-2003, 08:33 PM	#60
DoinkMobb Scooby Specialist Member#: 3787 Join Date: Jan 2001 Chapter/Region: South East Location: G-ville Vehicle: 2008 Gay Car	I would have left out the carpeting after scraping out the sound deadening, but the bare metal looks like ASS now. There's some plastic snap-on thingies that hold down some wires or something, and heating vents that go towards the back of the car. I'm sure my GF would complain every time she got in the car too.

02-10-2003, 11:17 PM	#62
ImprezedRS Scooby Specialist Member#: 2771 Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Charlotte, NC Vehicle: 2003 BMW Z4 Blue	well maybe Neo, there is a lot of things different

02-11-2003, 01:33 PM	#64
bemani Scooby Specialist Member#: 5673 Join Date: Apr 2001 Chapter/Region: BAIC Location: Folsom, CA Vehicle: 05 LGT, 02 bug eye 16 Hellcat, 19 CTR	There are more things for cruise control that you can take out - 2 electronic modules next to the driver side door that you can remove, and if you want to be real thorough, all the harness for it too. Plus there's a clutch and brake switch somewhere down there. I replaced the cc button with the plain cover cap - that's like 1oz weight saving Too bad the fuse for cc is together with something else other wise I can unplug that and save another oz

02-11-2003, 01:53 PM	#65
NeoGeo Scooby Specialist Member#: 3776 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: DC MD Vehicle: Take a wild guess	Okay I'll try to give that cruise control thing another shot...anyway right now it's replaced by the zerosport push-start button, plus TXS map selector

02-12-2003, 07:27 AM	#71
ellisnc Scooby Specialist Member#: 4229 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Dublin, OH, USA Vehicle: 2003 S2000 Did someone say track day	yeah the problem is even if you're planning on keeping you car and you strip it down and start taking circuits out of the wire harness is that puts you right into prepared class at auto-x... Believe me, if you've taken out the wires for the A/C compressor and Cruise or even cut them off you will be protested sooner or later... that's pretty easy to spot.

02-12-2003, 08:59 AM	#72
bcblues Scooby Specialist Member#: 17256 Join Date: Apr 2002 Chapter/Region: South East Location: America's Outback Vehicle: 18 Outback on the road....	Here are some other weight saving mods that many don’t think of: 1) remove all change from the center consol cup holder. 2) remove floor mats. 3) vacuum 5 pound of sand from floor. 4) remove parking and speeding tickets from glove box. 5) remove “heavy metal” cd’s from changer. Replace with “Air Supply”. 6) run 36 psi in each tire instead of 42 (save 6 pounds a corner!) 7) remove Scooby bobbly-head dog from rear shelf. 8) remove change from pockets (but I like the “drive nude” idea too). 9) remove air freshener from rearview mirror. 10) drive barefoot. 11) turn down your boost. No need to cart around those “extra pounds”. 12) retorque all bolt to half their recommended “foot-pounds”. 13) remove 2 lug nuts from each wheel. 14) while you are down there, remove the valve cap. 15) remove license plates.

02-18-2003, 07:17 AM	#75
ellisnc Scooby Specialist Member#: 4229 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Dublin, OH, USA Vehicle: 2003 S2000 Did someone say track day	Aspera, I'm assuming those other things you took out weigh more than the brackets?? The brackets don't weigh too much. As soon as the snow melts and we get a little warmer here I'll look into the rear doors! thanks Did you ever get that anti-theft metal in the steering column? You'll probably need an impact driver to remove the screws though.