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Old 08-28-2019, 09:40 AM   #1
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I had a 2011. Sold it with 125k for $10k. Worked it hard. Had 0 problems. Then I bought a 2015 STi. 32k miles with one previous owner. It broke immediately: 2 trips to the dealership for misfiring cylinders, and one trip for a bad throw-out bearing and broken flywheel bracket that left me stranded on the side of the ****ing rode. I come to find out that the previous owner had $14k in repair work done after they tossed a rod. Pretty much everything but the windshield was replaced, and it still blew up again on me in defiance of all that is dealership. SOA branded that 2015 a lemon, and bought be a brand new 2017 STi. Awesome. I'm the only owner and everything will be ****ing fine, because I know how to not floor-it in 6th gear with 85 Octane in the tank. But now, I'm 58k into it, and my transmission starts to feel "sloppy". So I bring it down to the dealership to find out that sloppy it is, and they need to pull my car apart for 3 days. What the **** is wrong with these newer STi's? This is 2 in a row, with failures including the engine, transmission, and clutch. Are my problems common? Either way, I'm fixing it and ****ing selling it. Anyone want a 2017? Brand new transmission. Future problems guaranteed!

Update: The results are in! The rear transfer gears were loose and grinding in the case with metal n the dccd center diff. The transfer gears, races, seals, and dccd were all replaced.

Final update: SOA came through huge. They reviewed my case, and decided to cover all of the repairs. Hurray!

## Lessons Learned ##
1) Be upfront and polite with your dealership on your mods (I think mine went to bat for me).
2) Call corporate and bitch when things don't go your way... but bitch politely.
3) Make an intelligible case. Mine was "Stage 1 Cobb shouldn't blow up my transmission."
4) At the end of the day SOA saw I was a repeat customer, and wanted to keep it that way. I think this was the most important thing.
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Old 08-28-2019, 09:42 AM   #2
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I think learning meditation would be very helpful for you
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Old 08-28-2019, 09:44 AM   #3
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my chi was centered until I bought this vehicle.
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Old 08-28-2019, 09:46 AM   #4
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Old 08-28-2019, 10:11 AM   #5
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my chi was centered until I bought this vehicle.
dude, talk about jumping the gun.

I mean the 15 you bought was obviously beat to hell by the previous owner, which has less than nothing to do with the car. If GT3 RS's could be financed for $375/month there would be endless nightmare GT3 RS stories out there.

So your new one had a trans issue due to 'sloppiness'
Great diagnostic description btw.

So you got a new 17 and 2 years later you have a 'sloppy' trans and they are fixing it under warranty I assume?

a) why are your panties so bunched up
b) what the hell does 'sloppy' mean?
c) I'm guess you haven't had a single other problem besides the trans otherwise you would have added another paragraph ranting about them, so why would you bail on a car with no other issues that just got a new trans?
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Old 08-28-2019, 10:16 AM   #6
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dude, talk about jumping the gun.

I mean the 15 you bought was obviously beat to hell by the previous owner, which has less than nothing to do with the car. If GT3 RS's could be financed for $375/month there would be endless nightmare GT3 RS stories out there.

So your new one had a trans issue due to 'sloppiness'
Great diagnostic description btw.

So you got a new 17 and 2 years later you have a 'sloppy' trans and they are fixing it under warranty I assume?

a) why are your panties so bunched up
b) what the hell does 'sloppy' mean?
c) I'm guess you haven't had a single other problem besides the trans otherwise you would have added another paragraph ranting about them, so why would you bail on a car with no other issues that just got a new trans?
panties are indeed in a bunch. "sloppy" is a term used by people who aren't mechanics. the frustration comes from major problems on 2 consecutive STi's. and the rant is intended to illicit community feedback.
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Old 08-28-2019, 10:20 AM   #7
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I don't see a "sloppy" transmission as a major problem. Could be as simple as a worn shifter bushing or maybe you just aren't as good at driving a standard trans as you think you are and your synchros are on the way out.
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Old 08-28-2019, 10:22 AM   #8
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I don't see a "sloppy" transmission as a major problem. Could be as simple as a worn shifter bushing or maybe you just aren't as good at driving a standard trans as you think you are and your synchros are on the way out.
tell me more about the sychros being on the way out.
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Old 08-28-2019, 10:35 AM   #9
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Dan drive bad
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Old 08-28-2019, 10:42 AM   #10
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Old 08-28-2019, 11:47 AM   #11
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tell me more about the sychros being on the way out.
nobody can tell you anything about your synchros because you've provided literally ZERO objective information about your trans issue.
You may as well have said your trans is shmonky at times so they're replacing it.

So if you want actual insight why don't you say what the real deal is?
Obviously they're replacing it, so I know for a fact that the diagnosis sure as hell doesn't say sloppy when somebody else is eating a trans for you.

And again, your first one was destroyed by some flat brimmer. A brainless moron can ruin any car, sucks you ended up with it but still has no bearing on anything.
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Old 08-28-2019, 11:50 AM   #12
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nobody can tell you anything about your synchros because you've provided literally ZERO objective information about your trans issue.
You may as well have said your trans is shmonky at times so they're replacing it.

So if you want actual insight why don't you say what the real deal is?
Obviously they're replacing it, so I know for a fact that the diagnosis sure as hell doesn't say sloppy when somebody else is eating a trans for you.

And again, your first one was destroyed by some flat brimmer. A brainless moron can ruin any car, sucks you ended up with it but still has no bearing on anything.
"tech found grinding noise internal to transmission. needs to be removed and torn down for inspection or replaced."
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Old 08-28-2019, 12:45 PM   #13
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Sorry to hear, my 2016 STI bought new is perfectly fine.

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Old 08-28-2019, 12:59 PM   #14
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Sorry to hear, my 2016 STI bought new is perfectly fine.

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^same here, just turned over 90,000
floored in 6th daily
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Old 08-28-2019, 01:02 PM   #15
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"tech found grinding noise internal to transmission. needs to be removed and torn down for inspection or replaced."
so basically you got a used 15 under warranty, somebody trashed it and Subaru bought it back as a lemon
(headache no doubt but you were fully compensated)

Got a 17 brand new and now you're getting a free trans due to manufacturer defect

For all we know you were given a free loaner car too, so what's to be so upset about? It sounds like you have been fully taken care of this entire time.
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Old 08-28-2019, 01:03 PM   #16
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"tech found grinding noise internal to transmission. needs to be removed and torn down for inspection or replaced."
Grinding noise on upshift? downshift? while cruising in gear? all of the above?

I have a 2017 with way above average mileage and its fine. I will say from my recent experience that I got downshift grinding on certain gears on aftermarket tranny oil once in a while that I didn't have on OE oil so I went back to it and now more grinding.

As far as the transmission is concerned oil and shifting style makes the difference imo. And everyone is vastly different with those 2 variables so who knows what caused your 2017 woes. I wouldn't blame the 2015 issue on the car though. It sounds like the previous owner was the issue.
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Old 08-28-2019, 01:13 PM   #17
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OP, your frustration is palpable.

Pro Tip: Nasioc won't offer any "support" of any kind, you'll just get trolled into oblivion.

It might be time to get a CTR.
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Old 08-28-2019, 01:18 PM   #18
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Not doubting others experience with theirs, but your experience plus the unfortunate aesthetic choices since 2002 were key factors in building mine
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Old 08-28-2019, 01:19 PM   #19
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sounds like your trans is due for rebuild drummer! i have some nice whine in mine...no cheese tho lol, but ya sounds like you are being taken care of with both of these! sorry about it being frustrating cuz you do buy a car to drive it...had 350z with tons of issues dealer bought back to avoid lemon and my first sti was in a paint booth for ~3 months due to rock damage to paint during transport. rx8 was in shop for ~3 months as well for random cutout at 8k rpm...throttle body was shutting (no signal or something) at that point...they had to fly engineer from japan to look at that one! so been there done that, some of my older cars have had to rebuild almost immediately...240sx headgasket blew 10min after i bought it...wasn't happy but had plan and engine available for swap so wasn't to concerned...
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Old 08-28-2019, 01:52 PM   #20
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sounds like your trans is due for rebuild drummer! ...
I don't think it does? I bought the car new and had no grind on the factory tranny oil, then got the oil changed per the schedule and that's when the grind began to happen on the new oil (motylgear) on 5 to 4 downshifts occasionally, not all the time. Drove it for a while to see when/what conditions causes it, but decided to not bother chancing it anymore and just went back to standard fill and haven't experienced that grind since.

I'd agree on the rebuild if an oil swap didn't fix anything, but it was clearly the oil that caused it. Seems like the synchros weren't getting up to speed fast enough sometimes with the slippery motylgear. I know people have had success with aftermarket tranny oil like motylgear or gear300, but some also have not and I fall in to that I guess.

Anyway, back to the OP's issues...

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Old 08-28-2019, 02:18 PM   #21
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^funny, mine has random grinding rarely on the 5 to 4 downshift too
only that shift, all the others are fine

Oddly, it's when I'm driving most casually too, low rpm's and casual shifts, not slamming lightning fast or anything at all
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Old 08-28-2019, 07:00 PM   #22
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Dan drive good, Subaru would like to use your synopsis in their next commercial - when are you free?

Sorry that sucks man, ive never had any major issues with 4 of my Subaru vehicles.
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Old 08-28-2019, 10:44 PM   #23
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I abuse the **** out of my transmission. 86k miles on my trans.

Multiple WOT and No lift shifts. bigger turbo, 30 psi, aggressive clutch. She takes it like a dirty whore

my 4th to 5th doesn't like high RPM shift. it grinds for a split second but it will still shift. been like that for about 15k miles.

No ****s given
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Old 08-29-2019, 01:26 AM   #24
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How'd you get SOA to buy you a new car just cuz you bought a POS old one?
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Old 08-29-2019, 06:51 AM   #25
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How'd you get SOA to buy you a new car just cuz you bought a POS old one?
I think if it's still pretty new and fully under warranty it doesn't matter and lemon laws still apply, so it was a buyback basically.

I wonder what they did with it?
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