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Old 01-23-2018, 07:08 PM   #26
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So no US version?
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Old 01-23-2018, 07:30 PM   #27
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Usually if sold in Europe, slim chance it'll make it to the US unfortunately
Maybe there is hope Toyota will change their minds and bring it stateside
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Old 01-23-2018, 08:17 PM   #28
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I see a bunch of the Fiat Abarth's running around. This would be a neat, more reliable competitor for those living in cities and wanting a small car. That population in the US seems to be ignored by most manufacturers, unfortunately.
Spot on, I had a medium size rental car in Italy and quickly took it back and got a tiny alfa instead. It was brilliant through the very narrow streets and narrow winding coastal roads! Its all about the individual use of a car.
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Old 01-23-2018, 08:21 PM   #29
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Centrifugal are kinda a mixed bag; same parasitic loss of a roots, with a different effective/efficient RPM range, and similar packaging constraints of a turbo. I can't tell you why OEMs choose to go roots over centrifugal in SC applications, but I can say the packaging is easier with a roots, which likely plays into its preference.
most OEMs want responsive power, that is where a centrifugal sc is at its worst. not many cases where a centrifugal sc would be better than a roots sc or turbo.
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Old 01-25-2018, 01:27 AM   #30
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Centrifugal works the motor less since it's not at full boost until higher in the RPMs. It also artificially maintains a dead flat torque curve since it comes on as the engine's torque naturally drops off. I think centrifugal SC's are better for a daily that needs to drive in traffic most of the time, but get's a chance to open up on a track or a back road occasionally.
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Old 09-14-2018, 08:15 AM   #31
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Toyota Yaris GR Sport revealed ahead of Paris debut
Gazoo Racing-inspired variant gets uprated suspension and Yaris GRMN bodystyling

Toyota has officially revealed the Yaris GR Sport, a warm supermini that takes inspiration from the Yaris GRMN, ahead of its motor show debut at Paris in October.

Due on sale from late 2018, it will mark the first time Toyota has launched a GR Sport trim level in Europe, having launching the Japan-only GT86 GR Sport in July.

The Yaris GR Sport uses the same 1.5-litre hybrid powertrain as the standard Yaris, developing a combined 99bhp output from the four-cylinder petrol engine and electric motor.

Toyota has instead focused its performance upgrades on suspension, with Sachs Performance dampers and a solid anti-roll bar for added rigidity. Ground clearance has also been reduced by 11mm compared with the standard Yaris.

The GR Sport sits on exclusive black 17in alloy wheels, which are fitted with the same 205/45 R17 Bridgestone Potenza RE50 tyres as the Yaris GRMN.

Available exclusively as a five-door, it also shares its exterior styling with the Yaris GRMN, including a rear spoiler and black colour scheme for the roof, front grille, door mirrors and door mouldings.

Interior tweaks include GR-branded sports seats and the same three-spoke steering wheel as the GT86. GR logos have also been added to the digital instrument cluster.

Prices have yet to be confirmed, but the GR Sport is likely to carry a premium over the £20,150 top-end Yaris Bi-tone.





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Old 09-14-2018, 09:42 AM   #32
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Well I shouldn't be surprised they screwed it up; good work Toyota.
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Old 09-14-2018, 10:51 AM   #33
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Well I shouldn't be surprised they screwed it up; good work Toyota.
What, you're not swoon by that sweet 99bhp hybrid motor?
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Old 09-14-2018, 11:52 AM   #34
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Well to the future of cars, give sporty looks and performance upgrades, beancounter except dont touch the basic engine.
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Old 09-14-2018, 12:22 PM   #35
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What, you're not swoon by that sweet 99bhp hybrid motor?


Which should roughly be the same 1.5L motor in the 1st gen Scion xB. Which has an output of 106hp (U.S. spec).
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Old 09-14-2018, 02:33 PM   #36
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Which should roughly be the same 1.5L motor in the 1st gen Scion xB. Which has an output of 106hp (U.S. spec).
My wife had an 07 yaris 5mt, although the sedan version not the hatch; the car was super light and happy to rev and tossable; every time I drove it I would always think & say "man, if it had some more power, and better suspension under it, maybe even an LSD this thing would be an absolute hoot" and that's what I thought gazoo was going to do here, but instead, they didn't.

I feel like there is one guy in Toyota who in every meeting is like "let's make it fun and a bit faster, and look cool" and the other members say "yeah we should do that, well, make it look cool, but not that other stuff, nobody cares about that other stuff" and sadly, they aren't completely wrong

at this point, if you took a yaris and shoe-horned the new 2.0l/6mt combo from the corolla hatch into it, it would be considered a performance car.
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Old 09-14-2018, 02:53 PM   #37
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That seems to be Toyota's MO when it comes to performance products lately. The enthusiasts are like: "We want spicier hot wings!" and Toyota's like "okay, here's some butter!"
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Old 09-16-2018, 01:16 AM   #38
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Since Toyota got their Le Mans win*, why try anymore?
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Old 09-16-2018, 02:05 AM   #39
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Bi tone all the things.
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Old 09-18-2018, 11:15 AM   #40
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I mean, the only reason they even made a GR Yaris is this



So why not spice it up a little, Toyota.
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Old 09-18-2018, 08:36 PM   #41
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Always wondered why theere werent more supercharged 4 cyclinders vs turbos.
We've had a few. The first Cobalt SS, TRD offered a dealer-installed supercharger kit for the first-gen Scion Tc, Mercedes did a couple; C230 Kompressor, etc.
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Old 09-18-2018, 09:33 PM   #42
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Also the original MR2, a few Lotus, etc
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Old 09-19-2018, 10:32 AM   #43
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Mini Coopers up to 2006 and convertibles up to 2008 also.
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Old 10-16-2019, 07:58 AM   #44
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European sales boss hints a performance version of the Yaris is forthcoming, linking in with the company's Gazoo Racing motorsport arm

Harrison refused to confirm whether or not a performance Yaris derivative would be a hybrid, adding: “Because of the strength of our hybrids in the sales mix [meeting fleet average CO2 regulations], it allows us the flexibility and scope to have lower volume performance derivatives like Supra.”

This suggests the brand is weighing up a traditional combustion engine option for a Yaris GR. The mention of displacement suggests the firm may upsize from the current flagship 1.5-litre unit. The limited-run GRMN version of the outgoing Yaris sported a 1.8-litre supercharged petrol engine puting out 209bhp.

Autocar understands the firm is also looking to do the same with the latest Corolla, with bosses saying a rival to the Ford Focus ST is "inevitable". With Harrison claiming we will see something pointing to a performance Yaris derivative in the coming months, it's likely that the smaller car is the bigger priority for now.
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