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Old 04-10-2005, 07:16 PM   #26
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Thank you guys for your differring opinions and experiences. I'm going to try and make this swap work one way or another. I can't sell my car, because A) I still owe money on the car, B) The EJ22 engine is sick and dying and would cost more than it is worth to fix it, so I wouldn't be able to get enough money for it without doing those major repairs.


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Old 04-10-2005, 08:47 PM   #27
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Mick, it was nice meeting you yesterday.

This swap looks really cool, definately a lot crazier than my manual conversion.
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Old 04-10-2005, 10:54 PM   #28
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Thanks, dude! Hope your 5mt conversion goes smoothly and you enjoy the new driving experience (for more than 20mins at a time)!


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Old 04-11-2005, 04:30 PM   #29
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After seeing your pics I decided to take note of the wife's H6 while I was changing the oil this weekend. Where you have separate exhaust ports her's only has one. So I guess there's one difference between the new H6 and the one that came on the 01 outback.
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Old 04-11-2005, 04:37 PM   #30
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Ok, just to throw this out there.

I seem to remember people have been able to have the stock ECU control the emissions part and then an after-market ecu controlling the motor.

You might wanna look into that if the EZ30R ecu isn't so friendly.
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Old 04-12-2005, 12:28 AM   #31
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That is one option we've considered. I'd like to get the H6 ecu to run it and pass emissions, but I'll do whatever works.


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Old 04-12-2005, 02:50 AM   #32
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Ok, just to throw this out there.

I seem to remember people have been able to have the stock ECU control the emissions part and then an after-market ecu controlling the motor.

You might wanna look into that if the EZ30R ecu isn't so friendly.
I dont see how this is possible. No way will the emissions be happy with another ecu controlling the fuel and ignition. Anyway the point is the 05 ecu is very complicated to wire and its the only ecu that might allow this swap to pass emissions. I see no options other then getting a pre OBDII chassis or moving to a state that doesnt check emissions.
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Old 04-12-2005, 12:25 PM   #33
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well there is another option
IIRC cobb cracked the early h-6 ecu they even did some flashes for customers (pre accessport)

but it would probbaly be cheeper to buy another car
honestly i think that is going to be the case no mater what -"its going to be cheeper to buy a 93 L and a stand alone than to make that engine pass obd-2 emmissions"
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Old 04-12-2005, 01:28 PM   #34
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I beleive it wasn't Cobb but another tuner who actually sells modded ECUs for the SVX.

Either way, you fail the OBD-2 check but pass the sniffer if you tune it right.
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I question if its even possible to run the older EG33 or EZ30 ECU on an EZ30R engine, who knows if the crank/cam triggers are the same. Since the newer engine has AVCS and some other goodies I really doubt they are compatible.
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Old 04-12-2005, 07:10 PM   #36
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^ I agree. Its gonna come down to swaping a whole bunch of electronics to make the new ecu happy. Your opening new doors Mick
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Old 04-12-2005, 07:32 PM   #37
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EZ30 triggers are the same. but there are about 40-50 extra wires for the R, including the dbw, avcs, avls.

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Old 04-13-2005, 01:46 AM   #38
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you need to move to southern virgina...no emissions and no obd-II tests...
I just can't see the ECU being that anal about emissions equipment especially being you are already obd-II. my swap only has obd-II codes for the gas tanks sensors I don't have but could easily get.
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Old 04-13-2005, 03:02 AM   #39
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Look folks, I am really tired of the negative comments. I don't really need to hear any more "it won't work" comments. If you don't have any technical info or help, then just don't bother posting. I'm trying something new and I will do whatever I can to make it work. Period.

Thank you to those that have even the slightest optimism that this project will work.

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Old 04-13-2005, 04:44 AM   #40
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Even if he did go with a stand alone he would not be able to control the AVCS.
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sorry man ... but it don't think there are any upsides to this project as stated (obd-2)
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Old 04-15-2005, 12:08 AM   #42
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Just a small update:

Right now I am trying to determine if I can use the older H6 radiator. I checked part #s and they are different. However, they both have 2 inlets on the top and 1 outlet on the bottom. I will be going by the dealership on Saturday to take some measurements and see if it can work.

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do the vains on the h6 radiator run vertically?...or do both hoses connect on one side?...just out of curiosity
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Old 04-15-2005, 08:33 AM   #44
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I don't know yet, but I will find out.


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Old 04-15-2005, 08:54 AM   #45
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do they have an emissions sniffer at school? you still "in" there? For this to work, it's a matter of test and retest...

we better get it running soon, we have until september right?

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Old 04-15-2005, 09:06 AM   #46
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Yeah, parts need to start rolling in. I don't want this to be a porscharu #2 repeat. Give me a call on my cell. I need to ask you a quick Q, please.


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Old 04-15-2005, 09:19 AM   #47
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do the vains on the h6 radiator run vertically?...or do both hoses connect on one side?...just out of curiosity
I would have to assume they run vertically and collect at the bottom since there is a single outlet, the coolant channel's on the engine are also separate, as in the right and left hand sides of the block.

now that i think about it, aren't all the radiators vertical like that?

I am not sure what you mean by vains, do you mean the bar and fin direction or the end tank direction? i mean the end tanks are on top and bottom and the bar and fins run vertically.

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Old 04-15-2005, 10:47 AM   #48
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porscharu II isnt' mine to spend money on.

the subaru 360 project, however...is.

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Old 04-18-2005, 09:14 PM   #49
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Alright. I ordered the stock 05 ECU and wiring harness today and should be getting it on wednesday. I also looked at a previous generation H6 and it looks like it will work just fine with my newer-style H6. We (steve and myself) will be getting together sometime this week and check out other details such as accessories, gas pedal assembly (throttle-by-wire), and fuel pressure regulator placement. More updates coming soon. We are hoping to start this project within the week.


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Old 04-19-2005, 01:51 AM   #50
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yes, by vains I mean the tube/fins...from what you say it sounds like it runs vertically...and no not all radiators run that way...all 4 cylinder subies run sideways...unless modded of course
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