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View Poll Results: Which Tuner Platform did you jump to after owning a WRX or STi?
GTI or Golf R 5 7.69%
Type-R 2 3.08%
GT-R 2 3.08%
MazdaSpeed 1 1.54%
EcoBoost 1 1.54%
RS 3/5 2 3.08%
911 3 4.62%
Cayman 1 1.54%
AMG C43/63 1 1.54%
Another WRX/STi 22 33.85%
American Muscle 6 9.23%
Another Suby, non-WRX/STi 4 6.15%
None of the above, but still a tuner car 9 13.85%
Got out of the tuner game altogether 6 9.23%
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Old 06-27-2021, 07:55 PM   #1
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Curious where most of us are going after WRX and/or STi ownership. Are we mostly Suby to the end, or have most jumped to another tuner platform?

If you changed to another brand, which one, and do you think you'd ever come back to a WRX or STi?

If you went to something not listed above, lets hear it.

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Old 06-27-2021, 08:00 PM   #2
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Went from
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Old 06-27-2021, 08:10 PM   #3
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I went from JDM swapped WRX to Toyota Tacoma, now back to 2020 STI and 04 WRX with hybrid swap.
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Old 06-27-2021, 09:21 PM   #4
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Went from Nissan Z32 and JDM swapped S14 to LGT and 2 9-2x's. Will always have a Suby but may add a Nissan back into my life
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Old 06-28-2021, 05:28 PM   #5
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Thanks for the feedback guys!
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Old 06-28-2021, 05:53 PM   #6
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Coyote Mustang then 5 years later a Focus RS. Thought about an STI but really wanted a hatch and I've wanted an RS since I was 14. The Mustang was just because I wanted a fast V8, and I had a blast with it.

I like Subarus and I did talk my wife into a Forester XT back in 2014. That has been a great car too.

I still have my WRX, but it's a weekend/project car these days.

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Old 06-28-2021, 06:54 PM   #7
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I just got into the "subie game" a year ago with my 2019 WRX and I plan on keeping it a long long time. CAn't wait for the hybrid conversion kits to start rolling in around year 2030.
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Old 06-28-2021, 06:57 PM   #8
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went from 08 WRX to tons of trucks/bikes, 17 Hellcat Charger which I then got rid of for a 19 STi. Got rid of that for another truck and now back with an 05 WRX Hybrid. Still have a bike, truck and now the WRX. Always end up with a subie, but still have fun with other makes/models.
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Old 06-28-2021, 08:09 PM   #9
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Went from Nissan Z31 to my bugeye STI. I don't see myself ever getting rid of the bugeye, but who knows...
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Old 06-29-2021, 11:54 AM   #10
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CAn't wait for the hybrid conversion kits to start rolling in around year 2030.
This is interesting ^

I've thought about building one myself for commuting to work. Anyone else considered EV conversion to a Suby?
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Old 06-29-2021, 12:05 PM   #11
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I was a Subaru owner before the WRX came to the states. I had a Factory Five Cobra. Went from the GC8 2.5RS to:

B7 Audi S4
to TJ Jeep Wrangler and a Dodge Neon track car
Neon track car to CRX prepared track car
TJ Wrangler to Yukon XL
then Mazda 6i
then Legacy GT
sold track car and Yukon XL
sold the Cobra and bought a Lotus Elise
bought a Wrangler 4 door
Wrangler got totaled, bought another.
Sold the Legacy GT, bought a Crosstrek

There were other cars in there and exchanges between my family. Sort of not a pole choice. I'm thinking about what fun car is next. My son (living at home) has an S2000 and a 20 STi, so if I want to drive a fun car, I don't really need to buy one.
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Old 06-29-2021, 12:28 PM   #12
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Was team VAG in the 90s. Got a Forester to drive for work in 2001, was impressed with the overall package so when the Bugeye WRX wagon came out it replaced my Audi and Forster.

Loved the WRX and kept it 11 years. Replaced it with an LGT because I could only fit one baby seat in the WRX. LGT is ten years old now but I plan on keeping it for the long term as there are no comparable replacements.

Unfortunately, I donít fit in the current gen WRX, my legs hit the steering wheel when driving. So if I had to replace it today I would probably go for a 6MT 2.0t Accord.
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Old 06-29-2021, 02:08 PM   #13
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Curious where most of us are going after WRX and/or STi ownership. Are we mostly Suby to the end, or have most jumped to another tuner platform?
I'm only 2 years into our WRX ownership, against an average car-buying cycle of about 7 years and an average ownership time in excess of 15 years.

With both of us in our early 70s, there are no plans to replace the WRX. That said, we're certainly not adverse to platform-hopping - it's what we've had to do from time to time just to keep even the "family cars" equipped with manual transmissions and decent-ish power. We sort-of jumped into the WRX after the LGT went CVT-only, if that helps any.

These days, I'm strictly a corner-carver sort of driver. Time was when I'd get involved with engine mods and even a little aftermarket EFI tuning, but those days are in the past.


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If you changed to another brand, which one, and do you think you'd ever come back to a WRX or STi?
No idea, but it would still have to have a MT. Easier to give up some power than the shifting. Too bad for us that Cadillac's Blackwing is priced out of our financial comfort zone


Hope that helps in some small way.


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Old 06-29-2021, 03:09 PM   #14
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Sold my 2006 STI after 13 years of ownership (along with a Fiesta ST daily) and bought another dream car, a low-mileage 2013 w204 AMG C63

I found it was an easy upgrade, I don't miss much of the STI other than sharper turn-in and ultimate grip (STI was so highly modded for grip/handling though) but the driving experience is still special, even at low speeds so it checks all the boxes.

My partner has her GR STI still though, so never more than a few feet away from one, but I wouldn't buy another for myself because after 2007 they were no longer based on a homologation platform and lost that special factor for me. It would be GC/GD or nothing else
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Old 06-29-2021, 03:14 PM   #15
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Went from
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2017 BMW M3 to
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Great to be back
what didn't you like about the 17 M3 btw?
just the price or more?

same with the S4. Wasn't that supercharged in 2014?
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Old 06-29-2021, 11:18 PM   #16
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This is interesting ^



I've thought about building one myself for commuting to work. Anyone else considered EV conversion to a Suby?


Iíve been thinking about an electric conversion, I took a spin on a basic dual motor type 3 Tesla, got a headache from my head hitting the headrest so hard when I floored the accelerator.
Loved it.

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Old 06-30-2021, 09:55 AM   #17
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Sold my 2006 STI after 13 years of ownership (along with a Fiesta ST daily) and bought another dream car, a low-mileage 2013 w204 AMG C63
I followed a similar path with a GD and also a 2013 C63. It checked many of the same boxes as the STi, and then some. Of the many cars I've owned, probably one of my top favorites to daily drive.

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Iíve been thinking about an electric conversion, I took a spin on a basic dual motor type 3 Tesla, got a headache from my head hitting the headrest so hard when I floored the accelerator.
Loved it.
It seems like there's more and more movement in the EV direction. Very curious to see what that means for Subaru. At the local Porsche Auto-X events there's a Tesla 3 that shows up and KILLS everyone. Top 10 are usually within ~1/2 second and this guy will be a full second faster than that. It's impressive to say the least.
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Old 06-30-2021, 10:07 AM   #18
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what didn't you like about the 17 M3 btw?
just the price or more?

same with the S4. Wasn't that supercharged in 2014?
I moved to the S4 because I was looking for a more comfortable DD, and was getting sick of the WRX's lack of torque before 3000 RPM. The wider spaced gearing combined with no low end made 1st and 2nd annoying in traffic, and after 5 years I was over it. Yes, the S4 was supercharged. I also bought a DSG (great transmission btw).

S4 was a great car, and did exactly what I wanted from it, but I switched jobs and ended up with a company truck, so since then I wanted something more exciting than the S4. The M3 was always a bucket list car for me, so I ended up trading in the S4 on the M3 with manual transmission.

M3 is a missile, and a beautiful car, but as a street car, it isn't what I wanted. It's perfectly "fine" and can be a DD, but the suspension tuning was pretty crap for the street. Not nearly enough shock rebound, so you're bouncing like a 70s boat with blown shocks after big bumps, and the traction control programming was horrid. Nothing but throttle cuts everywhere. It made having a ~400whp RWD car annoying and lame. Even RE-71Rs didn't help enough.

I'm sure the M3 is an incredible machine on the track, but on the street it's way too compromised if you want to access the performance it offers. So I eventually sold it due to personal reasons not relevant to my ownership experience (I really needed room in the garage), but I wasn't exactly in love with it anyways.

Which lead me to realize that after 7 years, the grass is not always greener on the other side, and a more expensive sports sedan is not always a better car (for me). I was missing my WRX ever since I sold it, and I was so caught up in speed and hp numbers that I was in denial for believing that the cars I bought after it were more fun street cars than what I had in the Subaru.

Seven years later, I'm in a 2020 STI, and all is right with my world again . There is a local cloverleaf highway on ramp that I would always use to test my new car's limit handling. The WRX would take it at 55-60mph all day. The S4 got up to about 48 before getting sketchy, the M3 could get to about 53 comfortably, 55-56 if I had the balls on a dry summer day. Took my STI back out there and it feels good to hit that 55-60 again with no fuss or worries. It's just more fun, and the suspension is way better sorted out of the box. And as for the garage space, I just park it outside now
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Old 06-30-2021, 04:02 PM   #19
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Funny how sometimes we think sometimes the grass is always greener on the other side, only to find out, not so much. Been there done that too. Expensive lessons!
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Old 06-30-2021, 05:23 PM   #20
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I'm sure the M3 is an incredible machine on the track, but on the street it's way too compromised if you want to access the performance it offers. So I eventually sold it due to personal reasons not relevant to my ownership experience (I really needed room in the garage), but I wasn't exactly in love with it anyways.
surprising on the traction control for the M3. I have a high hp rear wheeler also and I found that the throttle cut issues are more often than not due to road surface issues where the super stiff body simply can't keep both wheels planted and one lifts up a tad and spins. Otherwise I only get traction issues in 1st gear (to be expected at 650hp) and temps too low for my tires.

anyway, I hear you on the rest of your points, makes a lot of sense.
The STI IMO is a pretty damn good value. The total power may not be super high compared to some of these performance bmw's, but at the same time it's practically 1,000 pounds lighter which more than makes up for it, plus the handling is at an advantage right out of the gate without that extra 1,000 pounds to manage.
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Old 06-30-2021, 06:29 PM   #21
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surprising on the traction control for the M3. I have a high hp rear wheeler also and I found that the throttle cut issues are more often than not due to road surface issues where the super stiff body simply can't keep both wheels planted and one lifts up a tad and spins. Otherwise I only get traction issues in 1st gear (to be expected at 650hp) and temps too low for my tires.

anyway, I hear you on the rest of your points, makes a lot of sense.
The STI IMO is a pretty damn good value. The total power may not be super high compared to some of these performance bmw's, but at the same time it's practically 1,000 pounds lighter which more than makes up for it, plus the handling is at an advantage right out of the gate without that extra 1,000 pounds to manage.
Yeah, the traction control was very frustrating. I've driven my friends AMG GT-C with gobs more power and torque and it grips just fine on PSS tires. Different class of car but still, it's not even close. No excuse for the M3. The latest generation appears to have taken TC programming seriously and the new model is reviewing well from a grip perspective. Too bad it's so ugly haha. Otherwise I may have gone for one.

And that's the thing about the STI. It's a fun street car. My use case was never the track, so maybe that's on me for not getting the right car for my use case with the M3. But I always wanted one, and I'm glad I experienced it. The STI is just nimble and darty and with a few power mods is exactly what I'm looking for. It's not for everyone, but it is for me!
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Old 06-30-2021, 07:35 PM   #22
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I went from:

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Currently still driving my 2021 STI Limited but I am debating whether or not sell to get the new upcoming MK8 Golf R.

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I just got into the "subie game" a year ago with my 2019 WRX and I plan on keeping it a long long time. CAn't wait for the hybrid conversion kits to start rolling in around year 2030.
I rarely comment on here, usually just lurk.
I only reply to something when I really feel the need to, and you should sell your Wrx and buy a Prius. This is the most pathetic thing Iíve ever seen a Subaru owner say. The heritage of the car is rallying, Motorsport success, Burns & McRae driving like lunatics and your talking about hybrid conversion kits. Do you not feel like a total moron?
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Old 07-01-2021, 03:10 AM   #24
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Sold my 2006 STI after 13 years of ownership (along with a Fiesta ST daily) and bought another dream car, a low-mileage 2013 w204 AMG C63

I found it was an easy upgrade, I don't miss much of the STI other than sharper turn-in and ultimate grip (STI was so highly modded for grip/handling though) but the driving experience is still special, even at low speeds so it checks all the boxes.

My partner has her GR STI still though, so never more than a few feet away from one, but I wouldn't buy another for myself because after 2007 they were no longer based on a homologation platform and lost that special factor for me. It would be GC/GD or nothing else
I 100% totally get what your saying, but being involved on a daily basis, as a profession, with the development of rally cars, I feel the need to chime in.
What you really mean, is that the 2007 was the last year that resembled subaru WRC cars (the hatch was terrible in wrc) and is iconic looking. Rally car for the street-esque styling. Unlike everything that followed.
It was never homologated in the GD chassis for WRC, the group A cars where the last ones to be actual homologation vehicles. The evo 6 I think was the last true homologation car sold.
Also, the USDM sti has a 2.5, rules back then required 2.0 and no largerÖ.
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Old 07-01-2021, 03:12 AM   #25
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I went from:

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Currently still driving my 2021 STI Limited but I am debating whether or not sell to get the new upcoming MK8 Golf R.
Did you buy your evo new? Iíve driven them stock and the 8/9 is magnificent. One of the best out of the box drivers cars Iíve ever driven.
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