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Old 10-12-2021, 01:14 PM   #1
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The car you have: 2017 WRX Limited in Pure Red
85k miles
Cobb Accessport with OTS Stage 1 tune
Magnaflow CBE
STI front lip

The car for sale: 2020 WRX Limited in Magnetite Gray
16k miles
Cobb AP, intake and exhaust

I would be swapping over a lot of parts (steering wheels, lip spoiler, front lip, wheels.

Now of course this car is at a Suby dealer so SOA has to know this car has been tuned. I test drove it and it did make a funny noise under hard acceleration like a rattle of some kind from up front. I didnít have a chance to poke around in the Cobb AP though.

At this point Iím leaning towards not doing it but they are offering 19k for my car and selling this one for 37 (about what it costs new but it does have at least 2500 in Cobb goodies on it)

What are the communityís thoughts?
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Old 10-12-2021, 01:43 PM   #2
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Old 10-12-2021, 02:34 PM   #3
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agreed^
37k for a new one would still be a rip off
mods make cars worth less not more
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Old 10-12-2021, 02:37 PM   #4
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Save your money.
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Old 10-12-2021, 03:05 PM   #5
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$2500 in Cobb goodies would not offset "funny noise under hard acceleration" for me.

Agree that mods don't add value (generally).
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Old 10-12-2021, 04:24 PM   #6
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You're going to pay $37K for a used WRX?
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Old 10-12-2021, 04:27 PM   #7
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My 2016 STI was $36k NEW!!!!!!!
That's a rip off for a modded 2 year old car.

And why on earth get rid of a car you've owned and worked on that I'm assuming runs fine to trade it for the same model of somebody else's car just for 60k less miles and throwing 15 grand at that????

Makes less than no sense, you have the same car.
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Old 10-12-2021, 05:22 PM   #8
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Why trade your car for the same car in a different color. It's a hell of a lot cheaper to just wrap the car. Plus the dealership is taking advantage of the lack of cars in the market with that price. Personally I see no point in trading yours. And why consider that one if something seems off to you even though a rattle could be anything. It's still something you'll always be thinking about
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Old 10-12-2021, 06:12 PM   #9
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37 for a used wrx limited that makes a funny noise, oh hell no! that car likely sold for 32-35 new.
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Old 10-12-2021, 06:31 PM   #10
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Wait and buy a new one. With 85k miles and running well you have plenty of time. They are charging you for an STI. You should report them to SOA for selling a modded car.
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Old 10-12-2021, 08:18 PM   #11
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Why trade your car for the same car in a different color.
This was my first thought as well. It's the same car. If it's for aesthetic reasons (the updated front end, paint color, etc.), just pony up and get the work done on your own car. Not worth trading it in IMO.
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Old 10-12-2021, 09:20 PM   #12
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Ok so I'll take the time to respond to some of these.

First off, the price I listed is their asking price. I have not negotiated with them at all on price of either the car or my trade in value.

Secondly, I do have to tread somewhat lightly with this dealer because I do have a business relationship with them via my employer.

My initial interest in the car was because they had just put it out on the lot and there was a Subaru Certified license plate card on the back and seeing that it was a Stage 2 tune on it, I got ready to pounce on a possible mistake. Because I have this business relationship with them, I verified it with one of the managers that the car was indeed certified and I was told that it was...initially. Who would pass up a Stage 2+ WRX with a Subaru backed Certified warranty? After I test drove the car, I was informed by a different manager that the other guy was mistaken about the warranty and would still carry the balance of factory (even though I'm sure that car has been flagged by SOA)

I have also talked to a few friends about it and I have come to the same conclusion as all of you guys. 99% not going to do it unless they throw more money at me. The updated front end would be nice to have sure but I think I'll stick with the devil I know over the devil I don't. And I absolutely loved the intake sounds that one made soooooo instead of a down payment, I'm just going to buy an intake now and save up a bit for the J pipe at a later time when I can get a protune.

Thanks for all of your input guys.

And if anyone is curious and wants to check the car out, its at Matt Slap Subaru in Newark, DE. Pictures and video should be up tomorrow morning (10/13) https://www.mattslap.com/used/Subaru...a19401469e.htm

And yes, I'm the photographer.
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Old 10-12-2021, 09:21 PM   #13
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$37k for a USED WRX?

Bro I wouldn't pay $32k for a brand new limited. And most definitely would not just trade it in for the same one. An STI, however, hmm

For reference, I paid $37k for my 2018 STI with Recaro Seats/Short Throw/Push-to-start in 2019 with 2k miles.
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Old 10-12-2021, 09:44 PM   #14
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My 2019 STI (Base) brand new was $35.5K. Then when I purchased my 2021 STI (Limited) brand new it was $41k.
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Old 10-12-2021, 11:49 PM   #15
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I test drove it and it did make a funny noise under hard acceleration like a rattle of some kind from up front.
Wonder if pinging was the noise heard.
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Old 10-13-2021, 12:09 AM   #16
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Wonder if pinging was the noise heard.
Another reason why I'm very skeptical of it.

Guys, I know a lot of you are balking at that price. It is high, but so are prices across the board in the car market right now globally because of the microchip shortage. This is what those cars sell for right now because its incredibly difficult to get a new one without having to wait months for it to be manufactured.

Just to give you a reference for comparison, I had my car appraised on a possible trade on a Legacy XT that I never really pursued at the time and it was valued at $17,500. And that was a year ago with about 8,000 miles less on it. Today its worth 1500 more than it was a year ago. So that was also a consideration but definitely a financial gamble. There are just way too many reasons to not do it and when I don't need to it would just be a dumb move.
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Old 10-13-2021, 08:12 AM   #17
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Guys, I know a lot of you are balking at that price. It is high, but so are prices across the board in the car market right now globally because of the microchip shortage.
^correct, but that doesn't mean you have to engage in this market.
And most of it is dealers simply taking advantage.

As an example, I just wrecked my STI so I needed a new car fast. I wanted a Stinger and a local dealer had 4 on the lot that weren't moving at all.
They STILL crossed out the windown sticker price with a f-ing magic marker and hand wrote in a price $5,000 higher.
And the cars had been sitting for months, not big movers at all.

Zero legitimate reason at all to add that premium, they just thought they could and they justified it by telling me, "every dealer is adding 5-7k right now"

I went in with a check in hand for the original sticker price, NOT the stupid $5k premium they wrote in with a magic marker and said you can move one of these today, here's my check. If not no worries, I'll move on and look for another platform.

Guess what. . . . .all of a sudden they didn't need the $5k
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Old 10-13-2021, 09:41 AM   #18
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O---SNIP---

My initial interest in the car was because they had just put it out on the lot and there was a Subaru Certified license plate card on the back and seeing that it was a Stage 2 tune on it, I got ready to pounce on a possible mistake.
---SNIP---
Speaking from 8 years at a Suby dealer - no mistake - if the car has a tune the car CANNOT be certified, regardless what the dealer says. When you certify any turbo Suby the CVN, CID, & VIN must correlate to what Subaru has on file. Subaru has to be contacted and data submitted to prove the match during the certification process. Was a real PIA when they added that step because the tech had to do this during the certification inspection. Cut into how fast you could turn that 2.3 hours...
BTW: Certified cars can't make strange noises either.
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Old 10-13-2021, 10:33 AM   #19
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You're going to pay $37K for a used WRX?
Holy stuff batman
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Old 10-13-2021, 01:32 PM   #20
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This market is just a zero-sum game at the best. Yes, you are getting better trade-in offers, but on the flip side, the car you are looking to buy is similarly inflated.

Of course, if someone is just in the situation where they want to downsize and sell off a car and not replace it (at least in the near term) than it is a good time to sell. But it all washes out if you are also then buying.
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Old 10-13-2021, 01:41 PM   #21
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This market is just a zero-sum game at the best. Yes, you are getting better trade-in offers, but on the flip side, the car you are looking to buy is similarly inflated.

Of course, if someone is just in the situation where they want to downsize and sell off a car and not replace it (at least in the near term) than it is a good time to sell. But it all washes out if you are also then buying.

Yup. Great time to sell. Bad time to buy but if youíre doing both, itís a wash if you do it right.
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Old 10-14-2021, 10:42 AM   #22
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They should knock off $5,000 because it has $2,500 in Cobb goodness on it
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Old 10-14-2021, 11:01 AM   #23
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They should knock off $5,000 because it has $2,500 in Cobb goodness on it
more like 15,000 since it is used, and being modified no warranty.
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Old 10-14-2021, 08:52 PM   #24
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It's listed on the site as a certified pre owned.
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Old 10-19-2021, 10:53 PM   #25
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Do it!
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