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Old 05-16-2018, 07:49 PM   #576
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Old 05-16-2018, 07:56 PM   #577
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Old 05-16-2018, 09:05 PM   #578
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The wife is keeping her GTI another year and will likely get rid of it before the warranty is up. Kinda in a car shopping dilemma for next year.
I'm gonna pay off my other vehicle and seriously think about it. Lightly used CPO S3s go for low $30ks, that's intriguing. I don't know if I want to give up the hatch though.
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Old 05-16-2018, 11:01 PM   #579
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Old 05-16-2018, 11:12 PM   #580
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Iím guessing these 2 sentences have nothing to do with each other? If your GTi is faster than your buddies R, itís also faster than a S3 lol.


Nope. My response was to the GTI owner that says has to have an R. My point is if Iím going for an upgrade, Iíll go up market, as I have as much if not more power in the GTI. Might as well get a nicer car if Iím moving up in price.

As great as the R is, my barely used Autobahn that was 9 months old was 25k. I get I donít have AWD, but this car is an amazing value and has almost everything an R has. I donít track my car and i really donít launch it ever so honestly all the stuff people use to justify the cost is lost on me. My car performs amazingly well in any condition I have put it through in the last 18 months.

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Old 05-17-2018, 12:41 AM   #581
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Nope. My response was to the GTI owner that says has to have an R. My point is if Iím going for an upgrade, Iíll go up market, as I have as much if not more power in the GTI. Might as well get a nicer car if Iím moving up in price.

As great as the R is, my barely used Autobahn that was 9 months old was 25k. I get I donít have AWD, but this car is an amazing value and has almost everything an R has. I donít track my car and i really donít launch it ever so honestly all the stuff people use to justify the cost is lost on me. My car performs amazingly well in any condition I have put it through in the last 18 months.
Nicer is relative. The R comes with things that the base s3 does not. Although given the depreciation on the s3, you can pick up a loaded one for a reasonable price. I loathe the s3 interior though, I really struggle to see how the s3 is nicer than the R. Also, don't forget that the 18s come with a lot now. Digital dash. Larger infotainment. DCC. etc.

I do not knock those that can get away with fwd. I live in a climate that makes awd favorable. I will probably go jb4 at some point. 350 hp for 500 bucks sounds like a steal.
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Old 05-17-2018, 12:55 AM   #582
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If the S3 came in a wagon it would be a good option, but the sedan... Its just too impractical compared to the Golf.
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Old 05-17-2018, 03:12 AM   #583
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I'm gonna pay off my other vehicle and seriously think about it. Lightly used CPO S3s go for low $30ks, that's intriguing. I don't know if I want to give up the hatch though.
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Old 05-17-2018, 01:24 PM   #584
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Nicer is relative. The R comes with things that the base s3 does not. Although given the depreciation on the s3, you can pick up a loaded one for a reasonable price. I loathe the s3 interior though, I really struggle to see how the s3 is nicer than the R. Also, don't forget that the 18s come with a lot now. Digital dash. Larger infotainment. DCC. etc.



I do not knock those that can get away with fwd. I live in a climate that makes awd favorable. I will probably go jb4 at some point. 350 hp for 500 bucks sounds like a steal.


I think the ascetics is the exterior is nicer with black optics. The interior is more quirky, but I like it as much. The digital cluster is nice, but itís not as feature rich as the Audi version. Used S3 prices are better than R for sure and I really donít want to buy these cars new.
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Old 05-17-2018, 02:37 PM   #585
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Well, given that it's a vw product, having the 6 year 72k mile warranty is nice. That was the primary reason I purchased new.
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Old 05-17-2018, 02:54 PM   #586
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Yup, VW has a mountain to climb in terms of reliability, but todays VW is NOT the VW of 10 years ago. My Allroad has been 100% flawless over 23000 miles.
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Old 05-17-2018, 03:52 PM   #587
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Well, given that it's a vw product, having the 6 year 72k mile warranty is nice. That was the primary reason I purchased new.
Exactly. And it's a bumper-to-bumper warranty too.
Every single item on the car is covered all the way to 6 / 72 not just the powertrain and the usual emissions components.
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Old 05-17-2018, 04:06 PM   #588
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Only 4-year / 80,000 km (50000 miles) in Canada... I wonder if that's why they're cheaper than in the US.
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Old 05-17-2018, 07:39 PM   #589
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I'm not going toAs great as the R is, my barely used Autobahn that was 9 months old was 25k. I get I donít have AWD, but this car is an amazing value and has almost everything an R has. I donít track my car and i really donít launch it ever so honestly all the stuff people use to justify the cost is lost on me. My car performs amazingly well in any condition I have put it through in the last 18 months.
Minus the brakes, LSD, 80 horsepower and AWD. UNLESSÖÖ..you managed to get one of the very few 2015 performance package models that came over here that year. Then you're only missing the power and the AWD.

Iím not going to delude myself into thinking I bought an R-lite for half the price of an R. There are some very significant differences between the two.
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Old 05-18-2018, 09:58 PM   #590
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Godamnit! Now i'm thinking of switching to a DSG car.
I don't know who i am anymore...
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Old 05-18-2018, 10:50 PM   #591
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Godamnit! Now i'm thinking of switching to a DSG car.
I don't know who i am anymore...
The R and GTI have somewhat weak stock clutches, especially if you add power later on. The DSG is stronger and faster, but the manual is an enjoyable manual.

I like my DSG though... Its a fun, different experience.
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The R and GTI have somewhat weak stock clutches, especially if you add power later on.
I see this as a reason to avoid the manual all together a lot, and don't get it... an upgraded clutch is less than the add on for dsg.

If someone wants an auto, that's great. But a weak clutch shouldn't be the defining factor, imo.
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Old 05-18-2018, 11:46 PM   #593
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I see this as a reason to avoid the manual all together a lot, and don't get it... an upgraded clutch is less than the add on for dsg.

If someone wants an auto, that's great. But a weak clutch shouldn't be the defining factor, imo.
I didn't even know about the "weak" clutches when I bought mine. Hell, I didn't know much about the drivetrain other than the DSG was fun to drive lol
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Old 05-19-2018, 12:55 PM   #595
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I didn't even know about the "weak" clutches when I bought mine. Hell, I didn't know much about the drivetrain other than the DSG was fun to drive lol
Yeah, and that's fine. Great reason to choose the dsg. It's a spectacular automatic. But like the manual, its not without its own short comings. A tune is needed to increase clamping force to hold added power, and even then, the trans will still limit engine torque. Regardless of trans, its a spectacular car.
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