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Old 02-09-2021, 01:37 PM   #3701
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I didn't realize this forum was full of never-graduated-highschool ken block ebrake drifters.

i haven't used an ebrake aside from parking since I turned 20.
To preface below: I turn off the nannies in everything I drive, so no VSC, TC etc. as that's how I learned to drive and how I am most comfortable driving in bad conditions.

I have used the hand brake in every fwd and awd car that I have driven in adverse weather as an additional means to control the vehicle/slow the rear axle independently of the front. I also use them to circumvent the ABS system in especially slippery/icy conditions, for example, coming to a stop sign on a downward slope, the ABS system would roll/creep me into the intersection, where the E-Brake will actually stop me.

In my RWD cars, I mostly use them for parking, as I can use the transmission to slow the rear axle when needed. However, my Lexus will not let me downshift into 1st gear in "icy conditions" as determined by the ECU, even with all of the nannies off, unless at a dead stop which can't happen because of the ABS system, so I'm glad I modified the foot parking brake to not ratchet and function like a manual handbrake does when the ABS fails to stop the vehicle on a downward slope in slippery/icy conditions.

I have never used the handbrake to "initiate a drift" in a RWD/AWD car as I don't have a hydraulic handbrake and the cable units are so weak that it doesn't have much affect; a downshift coupled with a lift-and-plant of the throttle while adding in steering angle will achieve that (different cars require different levels of aggression). I admit to using the handbrake in a FWD car to initiate a pseudo-drift for fun in snowy parking lots, however that is a rare occurrence.
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Old 02-09-2021, 01:37 PM   #3702
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I hear the GR Corolla has...none of that
Hey, at least it's 200 pounds heavier!
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Old 02-09-2021, 02:44 PM   #3703
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Reading some of these comments and I'm not sure if some folks are aware the current automatic WRX already has an electronic parking brake? Unless anyone was viewing that as a deficiency of the current generation that they were hoping the new one would "remedy."

I never had an EPB before my 2020 WRX, but I'm fine with it, partly because AVH takes some of the stress/annoyance out of stop-and-go situations.

Otherwise, I never use the parking brake for anything other than parking, so I get that others may have different reason for preferring the old-school mechanical variety. Then again, I assume those people would prefer the 6MT version of the car anyway, which, unless I misunderstood the translated article, isn't expected to get an EPB.
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Old 02-09-2021, 02:52 PM   #3704
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"automatic WRX" as in CVT WRX? That's usually where the complaints narrow and focus. It never gets to the e-brake arrangement.
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Old 02-09-2021, 03:03 PM   #3705
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Pretty sure auto STIs were offered in Japan. Not sure what tranny exactly it was. Donít think it was a CVT at all.
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Old 02-09-2021, 03:08 PM   #3706
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"automatic WRX" as in CVT WRX? That's usually where the complaints narrow and focus. It never gets to the e-brake arrangement.
Yes, automatic WRX. CVT WRX. Both are accurate even if the latter is more specific, unless one defines "automatic" as only a traditional planetary automatic, but that isn't how I've typically seen the term used in recent years. Or unless one prefers to specify "CVT" as a form of emphasis because they are particularly averse to that type of automatic transmission.

But I like my car and am fine with describing it either way. I just tend to think of it as an automatic first and CVT second.

Several recent posts seemed to express surprise/doubt/skepticism that the new "CVT"/"automatic" WRX would come with an electronic parking brake and/or discussed why Subaru might do such a thing. Seemed odd to me, considering they already do.

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Old 02-09-2021, 03:11 PM   #3707
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Pretty sure auto STIs were offered in Japan. Not sure what tranny exactly it was. Donít think it was a CVT at all.
https://forums.nasioc.com/forums/sho....php?t=1706685

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Old 02-09-2021, 03:14 PM   #3708
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Legacy XT also has the electronic finger brake. And nobody cares.
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Old 02-09-2021, 03:17 PM   #3709
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To preface below: I turn off the nannies in everything I drive, so no VSC, TC etc. as that's how I learned to drive and how I am most comfortable driving in bad conditions.
you do you.

I equip my cars with top-of-the-line snow/winter tires and temper my driving when I get to a situation where abs is going to be inadequate.
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Old 02-09-2021, 03:17 PM   #3710
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Uh... no they didnít. (1) The RS is always an ďend of generationĒ few years model. (2) the RS engine is available as an option package on the Ecoboost mustang.

https://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-ne...-ar188282.html

Everywhere I read is that Focus RS is dead.
Dont think the mustang with the RS engine is part of this comparison.
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Old 02-09-2021, 03:20 PM   #3711
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....Several recent posts seemed to express surprise/doubt/skepticism that the new "CVT"/"automatic" WRX would come with an electronic parking brake and/or discussed why Subaru might do such a thing. Seemed odd to me, considering they already do, but maybe I misunderstood.

It started with a comment the person didn't realize the HTCVT WRX had an EPB. Which didn't come initially. It was added in a later MY.
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Old 02-09-2021, 03:40 PM   #3712
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They're not just "parking brakes" either, they can absolutely be used in emergencies... they're just more of an "on-off" switch that's also controlled by the ABS system than a pressure sensitive cable where you can control the amount of braking, or lock'em up in the back of the local walmart parking lot...
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Old 02-09-2021, 03:49 PM   #3713
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It started with a comment the person didn't realize the HTCVT WRX had an EPB. Which didn't come initially. It was added in a later MY.
Yes, so not really news either way, although I don't think I saw anything significant in that article that hasn't already been rumored or inferred. I guess it reinforced some of the existing speculation. I'm still taking everything with a grain of salt until Subaru makes an official announcement.
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