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#76 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 61097
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Richmond, Va
Vehicle:2002 Wrx Silver |
![]() Ive had this problem the past 3 winters but this winter the smell is so bad i cant take it. I had no clue this many other people are having the same problem till today when i finally decided to do a search. Just sent my complaint to the NHTS, going to see if my dealer will cover it but i highly doubt it.
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#77 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 80120
Join Date: Jan 2005
Chapter/Region:
MAIC
Location: maryland
Vehicle:2002 Wrx sedan MBP |
![]() i got this problem now im so ticked off... my warranty xpired 9k miles ago and subaru wont cover it. ive heard that getting a silicone turbo inlet so u can take the stock inlet out and tighten the clamp doesnt always work the clamp sometimes gets loose again. im thinking about the perrin fuel rails havnt found much info on this site for how much of a pain the install is for them. anyone installed the perrin fuel rails to solve this?
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#78 |
Scooby Guru
Member#: 13304
Join Date: Dec 2001
Chapter/Region:
RMIC
Location: Answer is Miata, Z06 or CTS-V.
Vehicle:2002 WRX WRB De Re Metallica |
![]() Got the smell again today...smelled it last year as well at this time. Ugh...I really don't want to take off the intake manifold but I don't want to burn either. :sad:
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#79 | |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 93667
Join Date: Aug 2005
Chapter/Region:
MWSOC
Location: Cincinnati,Oh
Vehicle:'03 Build'n a 2.12L 331whp/331wtq |
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I have installed Perrin fuel rails on my car and a couple others. You have to remove the intake manifold to install them, but it is not hard. Just take a little time and make sure you unhook all the connectors. Kevin |
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#80 |
Scooby Guru
Member#: 13304
Join Date: Dec 2001
Chapter/Region:
RMIC
Location: Answer is Miata, Z06 or CTS-V.
Vehicle:2002 WRX WRB De Re Metallica |
![]() I am not up to date on the fuel delivery system but installing aftermarket fuel rails will solve this problem?
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#81 | |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 31957
Join Date: Jan 2003
Chapter/Region:
NWIC
Location: Boise, ID
Vehicle:2013 Street Triple R Triumph Explorer XC |
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On another note, it may be true that simply tightening the clamps will not always solve the problem but I replaced all four oem clamps under there with real hose clamps and three weeks and muuuch colder temps and I've had no more leaks. You do still have to remove the turbo inlet to get to them, though. |
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#82 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 80120
Join Date: Jan 2005
Chapter/Region:
MAIC
Location: maryland
Vehicle:2002 Wrx sedan MBP |
![]() im trying to decide on getting a perrin turbo inlet and just tightening/replacing the hose clamps or just getting the perrin fuel rails, anyone hav any suggestions? i figured the perrin lines would make sure no leaks in the future but the inlet and replacing the clamps would be easier
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#83 |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 93667
Join Date: Aug 2005
Chapter/Region:
MWSOC
Location: Cincinnati,Oh
Vehicle:'03 Build'n a 2.12L 331whp/331wtq |
![]() Nice thing about the Perrin rails is how quickly injectors can be remove once they are installed. I can swap injectors in 20 minutes tops!
Kevin |
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#84 | |
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Member#: 1800
Join Date: Jul 2000
Chapter/Region:
NESIC
Location: Central CT
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I just had this fixed, $80 for parts 3.5 hours labor. $350 total, fix and move on. |
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#85 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 80120
Join Date: Jan 2005
Chapter/Region:
MAIC
Location: maryland
Vehicle:2002 Wrx sedan MBP |
![]() i just ordered the perrin rail kit should be here tommorrow(thanx JSCSPEED.COM!!!) for a long project on saturday cant wait to get this problem fixed permanetly.
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#86 |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 93667
Join Date: Aug 2005
Chapter/Region:
MWSOC
Location: Cincinnati,Oh
Vehicle:'03 Build'n a 2.12L 331whp/331wtq |
![]() Guys at JSC are awsome! I stall will take you 3-4 hours for the rails.
Kev |
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#87 | |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 18150
Join Date: Apr 2002
Chapter/Region:
MAIC
Location: Baltimore MD
Vehicle:2002 WRX Wagon EJ207 Velocity Red, Liberal kit |
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![]() Has anyone fixed this problem with out taking off the manifold? I tried and found it impossible. After taking off the manifold and replacing the hoses and clamps it's been good for 2 years now. About $15 in parts and $25,000 in labor (paid myself ![]() |
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#88 |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 50193
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: NJ
Vehicle:1999 Rubasu Ziprema Silverthorne |
![]() Well it turns out this is happening on my motor too. I have a 02 ej20 in my 99 GC8. I have never taken off intake manifold, and I dont' feel comfortable doing it.
Does anyone have any detailed pics of where the 4 screw can be found? Thanks, -al |
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#89 | |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 49760
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: San Jose, CA
Vehicle:2002 WRX Wagon Silver |
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#90 |
Scooby Guru
Member#: 1800
Join Date: Jul 2000
Chapter/Region:
NESIC
Location: Central CT
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![]() Luke, you seem to be out of touch with reality. The NHTSA already performed an investigation and deemed the fuel leak to not be a safety issue, therefore no recall is needed. "Design flaws" do not have to be fixed by maunfacturers outside of warranty, and that's where we are with this situation. Explain to me why SOA should fix this, anymore than they would cover wheel bearings or interior pieces that fail outside of warranty. Again, it has been determined that this is not a safety issue (this is not my opinion).
If you can get a dealer to fix it for free, good job. I tried, SOA was not having it, and I didn't want my family inhaling gasoline fumes so I had it fixed for a reasonable price. |
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#91 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 98827
Join Date: Oct 2005
Chapter/Region:
MWSOC
Location: Kansas
Vehicle:2005 Leggy 2.5iWagon SWP |
![]() So, to recap what everyone is saying....
You can spend $350-500 for the dealer to "fix" the problem or Spend $350 for the Perrin kit and take out the variables..... |
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#92 | |
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Member#: 93634
Join Date: Aug 2005
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#93 | |
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Member#: 2992
Join Date: Nov 2000
Chapter/Region:
NESIC
Location: Connecticut, USA
Vehicle:02 WRX Sedan Silver |
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#94 |
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Member#: 78353
Join Date: Dec 2004
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![]() I see a lot of ppl posting but I rememebr seeing a pdf floating around at one point in time concerning the bulletin.
The TSB you need to refer to is 09-36-0334719 PM me your email addy and I'll send you the PDF. text below NUMBER:09-36-03 DATE:04/01/03 APPLICABILITY:2002MY Impreza WRX SUBJECT:Fuel Smell in Cold Weather A AA AA INTRODUCTION Some 2002 model Impreza WRX (2.0L Turbo) may experience a fuel smell in cold weather (temperature below 14°F) from the rubber hose connector, located under the intake manifold, between two direct fuel-feed metal lines to the injectors. REPAIR The changing of the pipe and hose size was adopted, starting with engine number 673467 to better align the two fuel lines. This was accomplished by shortening the fuel pipe and lengthening the hose both by 30mm. To complete this service procedure, you must replace the fuel pipe assembly and hose as a set. Follow the service procedure in the appropriate service manual to remove the intake manifold from the vehicle. PARTS Replace the pipe and hose as a set. PART NUMBER DESCRIPTION 17544AA134 Pipe complete (30mm shorter than Old one) 807707140 Hose (30mm longer than Old one) such as that. anyone?? |
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#95 | |
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Member#: 2992
Join Date: Nov 2000
Chapter/Region:
NESIC
Location: Connecticut, USA
Vehicle:02 WRX Sedan Silver |
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#96 |
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Member#: 93195
Join Date: Aug 2005
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![]() The pictures at the beginning of this thread don't work anymore. Anyone have them still? I would like to tighten up the fuel line on my 02 WRX with the long screw driver, and the pics would probably help.
Thanks, Phil |
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#97 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 134352
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Bristol, CT
Vehicle:2002 WRX white |
![]() noticed the fuel smell today...the pics at the beginning of the thread would be helpful..thanks in advance
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#98 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 114609
Join Date: May 2006
Chapter/Region:
MWSOC
Location: Logan, OH
Vehicle:2006 Legacy GT |
![]() Here are a few pictures I took tonight. I fixed the problem with ~$2 in hose clamps and doubled up on them just to make sure
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#99 |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 18150
Join Date: Apr 2002
Chapter/Region:
MAIC
Location: Baltimore MD
Vehicle:2002 WRX Wagon EJ207 Velocity Red, Liberal kit |
![]() You fixed yours without taking the manifold off? Nice... Mine was leaking on the other side, a lot harder to get to.
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#100 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 114609
Join Date: May 2006
Chapter/Region:
MWSOC
Location: Logan, OH
Vehicle:2006 Legacy GT |
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