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Old 12-01-2011, 09:08 AM   #26
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Sometimes they are hard to track down without pulling the manifold. You can't hear the leak unless under load and sometimes the leak doesn't leave the telltale soot marks. Hopefully it will be easy to find.
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Old 12-01-2011, 11:16 AM   #27
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Sometimes they are hard to track down without pulling the manifold. You can't hear the leak unless under load and sometimes the leak doesn't leave the telltale soot marks. Hopefully it will be easy to find.

They are looking for soot marks now. If they don't see any then when I go to EFILogics I'll have them double check it, or at least check it on the dyno...

It might just be my over analysis.... but better safe than sorry.
I've been on the phone to Pete to let him know there might be a slight problem..

No CEL's though..
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Old 12-01-2011, 12:49 PM   #28
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I just came back from the shop (across the street). Aside: It is nice having a good shop within walking distance of where you work...

They said that they noticed a bit of soot from the header to uppipe flange.
Right now we are going to try and put on a bigger gasket to try and see if that will make the surfaces mate better.

If not then the pipe will need to be heated and bent (which I don't want to do since I have coatings on them)

I'll continue to inform with my progress.
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Old 12-01-2011, 06:05 PM   #29
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Did the coating get on the mating surface. A friend told me that if coating gets on mating surfaces, then it might not seal correctly.
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Old 12-01-2011, 06:32 PM   #30
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I just came back from the shop (across the street). Aside: It is nice having a good shop within walking distance of where you work...

They said that they noticed a bit of soot from the header to uppipe flange.
Right now we are going to try and put on a bigger gasket to try and see if that will make the surfaces mate better.

If not then the pipe will need to be heated and bent (which I don't want to do since I have coatings on them)

I'll continue to inform with my progress.
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Old 12-03-2011, 06:28 PM   #31
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I'll put the dyno up when they update the website but this is what finally happened.

I went to EFILogics and of course the guys treated me real well. In total I dyno'ed with the header/ up pipe a EBCS and they sold me on a used q300 catback.

I went from 293hp/325tq (tq at about 3700) to 308hp and 370 tq ( at 3000). So the tune gained 15 hp and 45 tq.

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Old 12-05-2011, 10:07 AM   #32
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Did the coating get on the mating surface. A friend told me that if coating gets on mating surfaces, then it might not seal correctly.
That may be the issue.


From the last time I had been tuned I've added the BATLground 1.5 scroll Equal Length header/uppipe which has been dual heat coated internally and externally, a Grimmspeed EBCS, and a used V1 Invidia Q300 Cat back exhaust.




STi 010 edit by CTSparky, on Flickr



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The Dyno pull

I lost a bit of top end power but gained 46 Lbs/Ft of Torque and moved the peak torque from 3700 rpm to about 3360 rpm.

I am now officially in the 300whp club.

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Old 12-05-2011, 12:56 PM   #33
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Old 12-05-2011, 01:02 PM   #34
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Awesome results! Thanks for posting up Sparky!
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Old 12-06-2011, 11:47 AM   #35
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I happened to find a similar set up to me with a full race header. My differences I think are that I have a intake and EBCS



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Old 12-06-2011, 01:24 PM   #36
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I happened to find a similar set up to me with a full race header. My differences I think are that I have a intake and EBCS

Nice! And just for comparisons sake, here is my Invidia catted tuboback, 65mm KS Tech CAI, and Perrin Turbo inlet compared to your car and the Full Race header.



Red= My Car
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[edit: I'll race you from idle to 3,000 RPM's! ]

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Nice gains! anyone else think it's strange that top end power dropped?

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Yep. Need to see a/f, boost, timing, etc., to do any real comparison IMO.
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Here is some more information.

Chart from CTSparky's run with the Batlground header, GrimmSpeed EBCS, 73mm short ram KS Tech Intake with Cobb cold air box, Perrin catted DP, and Invidia Q300 v1 catback.

http://www.efilogics.com/dyno/getrun...hp?runid1=1854

Chart from CTSparky's run prior to Batlground header, GrimmSpeed EBCS, and Invidia Q300 v1 catback.

http://www.efilogics.com/dyno/getrun...hp?runid1=1614
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Nice gains! anyone else think it's strange that top end power dropped?

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Yes I do as well. My tuner is well respected, but maybe it is something to think about?

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Yep. Need to see a/f, boost, timing, etc., to do any real comparison IMO.
I don't have any timing logs on the car, but I could do one and post that up if you think it would help.

If you guys want to help just pm me and I'll give you the email of the tuner so that you can contact him.
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Revving fun


The Dyno pull

I lost a bit of top end power but gained 46 Lbs/Ft of Torque and moved the peak torque from 3700 rpm to about 3360 rpm.

I am now officially in the 300whp club. [/quote]

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Old 12-27-2011, 09:50 AM   #43
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In the context of the implied warranty of merchantability, the omission of an O2 bung renders this header unfit for our market.

This also points out what you get when you buy Rolex watches from the guy in the trenchcoat on the street.

Insulting, and stupid.
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Old 12-28-2011, 11:22 PM   #44
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Im glad to see this header worked out. And both of my cars have the AFR sensors moved to the downpipes
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Old 12-29-2011, 07:29 AM   #45
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Im glad to see this header worked out. And both of my cars have the AFR sensors moved to the downpipes
Yes it worked out well. The biggest shocker to everyone is that the car pulls smoother now with the flattened torque curve... The car is less "snappy".
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In the context of the implied warranty of merchantability, the omission of an O2 bung renders this header unfit for our market.
So, 5 minutes for a shop to weld in a bung is too much in the way of modifying yet we are talking about installing new headers into a car?

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This also points out what you get when you buy Rolex watches from the guy in the trenchcoat on the street.
No, it's not even the close to the same thing. Do you even own any high end time pieces? I doubt it since you just don't seem to understand the relationship between the 2 situations/ products.

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In the context of the implied warranty of merchantability, the omission of an O2 bung renders this header unfit for our market.

This also points out what you get when you buy Rolex watches from the guy in the trenchcoat on the street.

Insulting, and stupid.
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Default I'm sorry, 09Legacy.

It is 2012 and I want to apologize for the turd in a punchbowl post I made here.

It was ignorant. Guilty.

The truth is I was researching this header for myself after reading the post, and got mad because of that bung thing. Where I live there are no competent welders, and I was disappointed and took it out on this forum. It made me look like an elitist idiot and it sullied the spirit and happiness in 09Legacy's excellent review. To him especially I apologize.

I deserve every comment.
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It is 2012 and I want to apologize for the turd in a punchbowl post I made here.

It was ignorant. Guilty.

The truth is I was researching this header for myself after reading the post, and got mad because of that bung thing. Where I live there are no competent welders, and I was disappointed and took it out on this forum. It made me look like an elitist idiot and it sullied the spirit and happiness in 09Legacy's excellent review. To him especially I apologize.

I deserve every comment.
This post gives me hope. To own up to the previous post and apologize is the adult thing to do.

I encourage you to check out the header. I think is was one of the best deals I did.
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im pretty sure if you call batlground they would weld an o2 bung for you before they send it out. later on this year im gona buy this header cause its to legit. plus my car is a daily driver and im not really worried about top end power. this mated witha blouch dominator 3.0xt 850cc injectors a big maf intake and a soild tune is gona be a blast.
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