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Old 03-21-2006, 11:37 PM   #1
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Hey everyone,

My stock 02' 2.0l engine recently tested low on two cylinders during a compression test. Anyway I had originally planned to purchase a 2.5l Sti short block and reuse my stock heads but as luck would have it I found a assembled 2.5l long block at a very reasonable price.

My boggle is this: I don't have the space, tools, or experience (read: mechanical talent) to preform this swap myself... so what options do I have? EL? I've hear good things about Gillman's mechanic Ken... would this be something a dealership would preform? Besides the motor install the ECU will need to be swapped and the AVCS harness will need to be installed. Along with various miscellaneous items associated with motor swaps...

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Engine: SOLD
EJ257 w/CP pistons
Axis modded crank. Balanced & drilled(good for 8000rpm)
Shimed 2.2 oil pump
PE timing belt
V7 large port AVCS heads
Ported TGV’s
Slightly ported intake & throttle body
V8 engine harness
4 coil packs
The engine makes 315whp & 350wtq @3300 with the VF39. Was tuned by Doug at Topspeed
Has about 8000 miles

VF39 turboSOLD

ECU: SOLD
V7 S202
Launch control(no boost)
IC sprayer control
Has been Ecutek flashed already
AVCS harness can be included for $SOLD

Sti pink injectors SOLD
The TMIC, BOV, turbo inlet pipe, BCS, alt, PS pump, A/C, and headers (probably forgetting something) will need to pulled off my current engine and attached to the new engine.

Also I will need to get a set of fuel rails and a fuel pump.

So, any ideas, comments, suggestions, or recommendations?

I'd appreciate the help.

Thanks,

Ken
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Old 03-21-2006, 11:41 PM   #2
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EL if they have the time Chris will do it right. Then I say Mcree, Johhny and Fred, Also WHS Chuck nows his cars as well.
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Old 03-22-2006, 01:31 AM   #3
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I've hear good things about Gillman's mechanic Ken
I've never had to have a block swap done, but I can attest that Kenny at Gillman North is top notch.

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Old 03-22-2006, 02:19 AM   #4
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Old 03-22-2006, 07:11 AM   #5
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Old 03-22-2006, 08:01 AM   #6
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Old 03-22-2006, 09:05 AM   #7
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EL is your best bet...stay away from the stealership for jobs like that....way too expensive...and probably less experience doing the avcs install etc...

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Old 03-22-2006, 09:08 AM   #8
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Kenny from Gilman if he can do it on the side.
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Old 03-22-2006, 09:13 AM   #9
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Holy carp Ken, Your gonna love that engine. Be nice to teh tranny tho........
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Old 03-22-2006, 09:15 AM   #10
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Kenny from Gilman if he can do it on the side.
I've tried calling Kenny from Gilman a couple times but he has yet to call back so I get the impression that he's not that interested in doing this... I'm going to contact EL today and see what they say.... I'm kind of leaning towrds the dealership as i have about $1000 in subaru bucks saved up.
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Old 03-22-2006, 09:18 AM   #11
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Holy carp Ken, Your gonna love that engine. Be nice to teh tranny tho........

Yeah... I've already started composing a 'Just blew 2nd gear' thread in the transmission forum... I've already started saving...
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Old 03-22-2006, 09:37 AM   #12
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Geezus Ken. That'll rock. Now the car will finally be able to keep up with your driving skillz

How about having the dealership install the major things (longblock, AVCS crap, ECU wiring) and then you or EL stick on the easy stuff?
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Old 03-22-2006, 09:39 AM   #13
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EL pulls (and rebuilds) motors all the time

that's what they do
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How about having the dealership install the major things (longblock, AVCS crap, ECU wiring) and then you or EL stick on the easy stuff?
That's the worst and most expensive option. EL builds performance motors and does it well. Dealerships fix rattles and replace broken parts..they don't build performance engines.

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Edit : re-read 1st post...OK, so engine is already assembled...EL is still a better choice
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Old 03-22-2006, 09:45 AM   #15
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$2007 Challenge: 1st gen Brat w/ WRX swap. 'Nuff said.
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Old 03-22-2006, 09:47 AM   #16
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That's the worst and most expensive option. EL builds performance motors and does it well. Dealerships fix rattles and replace broken parts..they don't build performance engines.

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The way Ken was talking it is all put together. So no building involved Since Ken has $1k of Suby Bucks to burn, why not use them to do the major stuff?

I see your point though Rick.
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Old 03-22-2006, 09:51 AM   #17
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Suby bucks.....nice....hate to waste them on over-priced labor, though but that would make it easier on the wallet.....

Rick continues to wave the EL flag

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Old 03-22-2006, 09:53 AM   #18
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I think if kenny did it, subaru bucks may not cover...

and it sounds like Ken is gonna be an SM driver now...
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Well thats true but it's an assembled long block so not like there is alot of assembly to do there. Just pull out the longblock and drop in the new 2.5L.

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P.S. Kenny at Gilman has done MANY MANY modded engine swaps and does mod installs there at the dealer all the time.
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$2007 Challenge: 1st gen Brat w/ WRX swap. 'Nuff said.
There is a Brat in my neighbor's field that I've been eyeing......would make a perfect project. I'm gonna try to talk 'em out of it.
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Well thats true but it's an assembled long block so not like there is alot of assembly to do there. Just pull out the longblock and drop in the new 2.5L.

Guru

P.S. Kenny at Gilman has done MANY MANY modded engine swaps and does mod installs there at the dealer all the time.

...Well shut my mouth! ...looks like you have plenty of good options then.
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Old 03-22-2006, 10:02 AM   #22
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I have no doubt that Kenny at Gillman North would do it right. He is no stranger to procedures like this. I believe he used to build race engines for motor boats. But using GN may be the more expensive option. Why don't you give the service writer, Chris Wehe 281 209 4327, a call and see what they would charge you?
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Ken, how much do you want for your 2.0 long block/harness/ecu?
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Ken, how much do you want for your 2.0 long block/harness/ecu?
project SF swap?
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