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Old 03-22-2016, 06:10 PM   #1
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TVR has announced it will open an all-new manufacturing facility in Wales in the UK.

Set to open in 2018 the new plant is sited around 40km north of Newport and will be situated next to soon-to-be-built Circuit of Wales race circuit.

Based in a nearby industrial park, TVR hopes the new race circuit will become its proving ground to help it develop its new generation of V8 sportscars.

With 350 deposits of around $10,000 each, in the first year TVR hopes to make 250 cars before ramping production up to 2000 cars annually by 2022.

It was hoped that TVR would return to its spiritual home of Blackpool where the last cars rolled off its production line back in 2006 but the new deal, thought to be heavily dependent on local Welsh government subsidies will enable the car-maker to start from scratch and implement former F1 designer, Gordon Murray’s iStream manufacturing technique that takes a fraction of the space to assemble vehicles.

TVR is the second car-maker to announce it will begin work on a car plant in Wales. Last month Aston Martin also confirmed its new DBX SUV would also be built in the Welsh region.
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Opens in 2018, bankrupt in 2020.

But those two years will be glorious!
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Beautiful design - side exhaust is weird though
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I can't believe they put RE92s on it.

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Beautiful design - side exhaust is weird though
This actually spy photo of the 2017 model shows non

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^^Nice find - expect trumpets out the back!
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I can't believe they put RE92s on it.

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Listen here n00b.... RE92s would be considered drift tires today.
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Listen here n00b.... RE92s would be considered drift tires today.
You saw that other post.

Who you callin' a n00b, n00b?

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Calm down you two old timers...

Did you forget to take your medicine today after bingo.
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TVR isn't actually going to come back. This is like Mazda releasing a new RX-7...never gonna happen.
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Calm down you two old timers...

Did you forget to take your medicine today after bingo.
I have to wait until the beginning of the month to buy more.

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TVR isn't actually going to come back. This is like Mazda releasing a new RX-7...never gonna happen.
So the announcement to the media and the land they purchased, structural engineers hired to build the plant is all an elusion because their really building space crafts to go to Mars.
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Calm down you two old timers...

Did you forget to take your medicine today after bingo.
Sold mine to pay for gas...

...I suppose you have some to share?
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So the announcement to the media and the land they purchased, structural engineers hired to build the plant is all an elusion because their really building space crafts to go to Mars.
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So the announcement to the media and the land they purchased, structural engineers hired to build the plant is all an elusion because their really building space crafts to go to Mars.
Will fail to produce sell any volume of vehicles and go bankrupt by the end of the decade.
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TVR has finally shown first glimpses of the styling of its hotly anticipated all-new model. Due to arrive in late 2017, almost 400 deposits have already been taken for the new car which may bring with it the return of the famous Griffith name.

The car will use a Cosworth V8 that has been engineered to produce ample mid-range torque and more than 400bhp. It's expected to be capable of accelerating to 60mph in less than four seconds, and will be priced from about £65,000, though the launch car will be a special edition priced considerably higher than the regular car which follows; TVR owner Les Edgar says it will be "sub-£100,000".




TVR has also confirmed that a convertible will join the range with TVR owner Les Edgar saying the model has been designed from the beginning to accommodate an open-roof version.

The car will be built using Gordon Murray's innovative carbonfibre manufacturing process called iStream Carbon. Two mules are being tested, with the latest representing a realistic weight for the car, which is set to be about 1150kg. When development is completed, the production model will be constructed at the brand's Circuit of Wales factory.

The reborn marque is out in force at the new London motor show, where it's left a full-size clay model tantalisingly covered. It has, however, displayed an image of the car's side profile, along with a sketch of the front end.

Combining the proportions of the model with the detailing from the front and side images, Autocar has been able to create an artist’s impression to show how the new V8-powered sports car is expected to look when it's launched (below).



The covered clay model was joined on the stand at the London show by a classic 1960s TVR Griffith 400. The appearance of that car is significant because the name Griffith is understood to be the leading candidate for the new car.

TVR boss Les Edgar has told Autocar that no name has yet been chosen, but it is likely TVR will reprise one of its famous names for the new car.

Edgar says the clay model gives a very good representation of the proportions of the new car, which is instantly recognisable as a TVR. It's wider than previous models, due to the fact TVR has developed its new road car alongside a racing version, and as such has given the car a more ‘planted’ stance.

The car’s design has been overseen by a TVR employee embedded within Gordon Murray Design, which is involved in the development and manufacturing process of the car. This is part of a collaborative approach from the investors in the project, who all have an influence on the design.



In profile, the new car is cab-backwards with a long bonnet, to emphasise its front-engined, rear-wheel drive mechanical make-up. The front end is much lower than the previous models. It has tauter surfacing and is altogether flatter and squarer. The grille shape and design is also all-new.

One other feature in the new TVR is the double bulge in the roof, a nod to the car’s racing pretence; the bulges are to accommodate drivers' helmets.

The new car will be built in Wales. at a factory in Ebbw Wale, with the Circuit of Wales site one of two under consideration. This comes despite the Welsh government confirming in April that it would not offer a financial guarantee on 100% of the Circuit of Wales project.
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Jason Barlow10 Jul 2017
Back in 2013, and seemingly out of nowhere, a British consortium led by a gentleman called Les Edgar announced that it had acquired TVR, lock, stock and smoking tyres. We tracked Les down, on the phone at least, and liked what he heard. Last month, the PR wheels began to rotate more quickly, when it was confirmed that the first all-new TVR for 12 years will debut at the Goodwood Revival in September. Before that, TopGear.com is proud to share a world exclusive image of the new car (pic 1). Let us know what you think.

The question is, especially for the younger end of the audience, how much should we care? Answer: a lot. TG and TVR go way back together, and we spent a good portion of the 1990s looking through the side windows of Lord knows how many of these cars. But as the fully automated BEV world draws ever closer, TVR’s commitment to internally combusting old-school high performance has never been more welcome. Factor in that TVR’s new owners have also engaged the services of a company called GMD – Gordon Murray Design – to develop the car, and it’s clear this comeback has serious legs.

Time, then, for a proper face-to-face summit, which was scheduled for the week after Le Mans because Les was there. Le Mans, it turns out, is a key part of the plan: TVR will be racing there much sooner than you might think. Interestingly, it was Les who masterminded Aston’s return to endurance racing in the early Noughties, having secured the license to run the programme, before doing the deal with David Richards at Prodrive. Apparently, a Vanquish-based LMP1 contender was on the drawing board for a while, before financial realities kicked in, and the programme switched instead to the DB9 and Vantage (highly successfully, not least in 2017 when it took a class win).

We’ve done massive amounts of computer modelling on this. We’ve also done accelerated salt water corrosion tests. It won’t rust
The more you find out about Les Edgar, 57, the more reassuring New TVR starts to sound. Edgar’s background is in computer games, which has given him both a buccaneering creative spirit but also a powerful pragmatism. He’s also a committed petrolhead, one with rarefied tastes. He talks animatedly about his Aston Martin N600 Vantage – another Nineties British bruiser – and more wistfully about the Aston Martin DB4 GT Zagato and Ferrari 250 GT SWB competizione he used to own (he sold the latter to Eric Clapton). Then there’s the way he and his colleagues set about wresting TVR back from its previous owner, the young son of a Russian oligarch.

“We had an in-road into Nikolai Smolensky,” he tells me. “He was disinterested at first. But then he told me a story that led to my bid. He was in Berkeley Square in London when a kid, who was walking with his father, came up to him, kicked him in the shins and shouted, ‘you killed TVR!’ I suggested we could help him repatriate the brand to the UK. It was a bizarrely straightforward transaction after that.”

Top Gear: Give me the elevator pitch on New TVR.

Les Edgar: Six-speed manual, 5.0-litre Cosworth V8, shouty, great looking, top speed 200mph – although we can limit it if you want – 0-60 comfortably sub-4.0 secs, Gordon Murray designed, full ground-effect aero, carbon fibre chassis, full leather trim, unique colours. We’re targeting power-to-weight ratio rather than outright power. Fully loaded, the launch car weighs under 1,250kg and has 400bhp-per-tonne. We’ll have to eke some more out of it… All for £90k. That sounds pretty good to me.

TG: Is your take on TVR that it’s a balls-out sports car? Or a grand tourer?

LE: It’s more towards the Aston spectrum than it is Lotus. Sports GT is where we’re headed. Sports cars should be small. An Aventador is not a sports car. The Griff rides well because it’s on smaller wheels and taller tyres, which is what we’ve gone for. It’s more comfortable. The new car had to be timeless, although that’s a difficult thing to strive for. The Griff had simplicity. We tried to get that with this car, but there had to be some cues that tell you it means business. So there are thumping exhausts at the side, and lots of aero at the rear. We’ve avoided fitting too many electronics; they’re expensive and will be unreliable at some point, although we do have digital instruments and a touchscreen infotainment system. We’ve used ultra-reliable components and then ‘bespoked’ them to TVR’s need.

TG: Doesn’t the Porsche 911 terrify you?

LE: Everyone looks at the 911 and thinks, ‘well, they got everything right’, in all the key parameters. Everything but nothing, in a strange sort of way. Sports cars used to be unique, they used to have foibles. Now it’s difficult to tell them apart. TVR did that brilliantly. We are the under-dog challenging everybody, whether on the road or the race-track. The passion drives us on. It sounds trite, but it’s true. If you haven’t got that, you’ll build a competent car, but you won’t build a TVR. That said, we have built an incredibly sound business case.

TG: So where did you start?

LE: Our job is to broaden the marketplace. We couldn’t sell a car like the Sagaris straight off. People have been softened by the latest cars, whose set-up and software make you feel like a God. Porsche owners have reached a certain level, they know what they’re getting, they won’t get laughed at by their mates when they say they’ve bought a 911. If you’re not an outright sports car fan, you’d be very happy. As you would with an Audi RS6. The reliability thing has been a real focus for us. Not just to conquer the historical problem TVR might have had in that area, although I honestly don’t think they were any worse than many others. It was more a case of too much power, not enough control. You could do that then, now you need to be more pragmatic.

I helped put Aston Martin back at Le Mans, now I want to see them off with this car

TG: The day you did the deal with Gordon Murray must have been a good one.

LE: We couldn’t afford to develop the electronics to make you feel like a God, but we knew Gordon was a God, so we figured he could do it. We’d bought this magnificent brand, and we thought, ‘what do we do now?’ There was no way we could launch a new TVR at £150k, although maybe we’ll get there eventually with something else. We talked to everybody. We talked to Gordon, but knew we couldn’t afford him. Anyway, there were three of us on our side, with GMD’s entire board opposite us. They told us about the city car. Then I said, ‘well, we’re going to Le Mans’. And instantly every single one of them smiled. Emotionally, they’re racers. I thought, this might just work.

TG: How does GMD’s ‘i-Stream’ technology work on the new car?

LE: There’s a steel tubular skeleton, mainly there to locate the engine, suspension and driver. A carbon fibre sandwich with honeycomb centre is bonded in around it. That makes it enormously strong, approaching 20,000 Nm per degree. You attach the crash structures front and back. They’re aluminium, and bolted on. The carbon panels are created at low pressure and low temperature, not done in an autoclave, so they’re cheaper to manufacture. The body consists of composite panels, bolted on at the end of the process. In an impact, the frame takes the impact and directs the forces through the tyres. So it won’t ripple the body. We’ve done massive amounts of computer modelling on this. We’ve also done accelerated salt water corrosion tests. It won’t rust.

TG: And you’re serious about taking TVR back to Le Mans?

LE: One-make race series is definitely happening. For me, for a sports car to show its mettle it has to go racing at Le Mans. I helped put Aston Martin back there, now I want to see them off with this car. The focus right now is on building a great road car. You need a lot of downforce at Le Mans, and Frank Coppuck [Technical Director at GMD] said, well the car needs to be wider, because the wing design is restricted by the width of the car. It also needed more presence and stance. So it’s 100mm longer, the cabin is 420mm wider, and that also gives us more width at the rear. That was a hard-fought battle, and one of the few compromises Gordon made.

TG: Only a madman would start building cars. Ergo you are mad.

LE: Correct. [laughs] There are lots of things you need to have, aside from money – and you can never have enough of that in this business. You certainly need to have some balls. Having a relatively small budget focuses you on the important things. Look, an opportunity like this doesn’t come along very often. In fact, it doesn’t come along at all. To revive a British sports car brand, a genuinely iconic name, British-owned, British-built… as a starting point, that can’t be bad. This isn’t somebody indulging in a mid or late-life crisis. We need to do this. I need to do it. TVR needs to come back and be great again.
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TVR has pulled the wraps off its long-awaited sports car at the Goodwood Revival, where it has also confirmed that the upcoming Porsche 911 rival has been named the Griffith.

The new car is the first 
to be built by TVR’s current owners, a private millionaires’ consortium fronted by computer-gaming magnate Les Edgar that four years ago mounted a successful 
bid to buy the brand from Russian ‘mini oligarch’ Nikolai Smolenski. Today is a day that diehard enthusiasts feared would never dawn: the big-hearted, big-performance sports car marque born in Blackpool 70 years ago ceased production in 2006 under Smolenski and resisted all attempts at revival until the current owners began a lengthy restoration process in 2013.

But now TVR is reborn and its first car is the two-seater Griffith, built on an all-new platform that uses Gordon Murray’s innovative iStream architecture. Its striking design takes inspiration from the original TVR Griffith and Tuscan, but adopts more advanced aerodynamics to boost performance. David Seesing, a designer for TVR who “works between”
 the company and Gordon Murray Design, sees maintaining the relationship with the marque’s history-making older cars as one of his most important priorities.

The car’s iStream structure features inner panels of carbonfibre bonded into a steel frame to provide immense rigidity and impressive crash integrity. The bodywork it comes wrapped in is also made from carbon – helping to keep the car’s weight down to 1250kg. The car has a perfect 50:50 weight distribution.

Under the bonnet is a highly strung version of Ford’s 5.0-litre quad-cam V8 Mustang engine, fettled by Cosworth to produce 500bhp. This has ensured that TVR’s target for a 400bhp/tonne output has been met, and enables a sub-4sec 0-62mph time and top speed of over 200mph. Drive is sent to the rear wheels through a Tremec Magnum XL six-speed manual gearbox.

The Griffith is the second front-engined production car to use a flat floor, which TVR claims generates genuine ground-effect aerodynamics to improve high-speed stability. The car is 4314mm long, 1850mm wide and 1239mm tall, making it the most compact car in a class. The 911, for example, is 185mm longer, 42mm wider and 55mm taller, emphasising the smaller scale of the Griffith.


The Griffith has been set up with driving enjoyment as priority over ultimate lap time, with TVR stating that it uses “intelligent engineering over electronic aids”. The car sits on double wishbone suspension with adjustable coilover dampers at both the front and rear. Power steering is electrically assisted and braking is handled by six-piston aluminium calipers and two-piece 370mm vented floating discs at the front, and four-piston calipers with 350mm vented discs at the rear. The wheels are of 19in diameter and 235mm width at the front, 20in diameter and 235mm width at the back.

Edgar said: “Today’s unveiling is the culmination of nearly three years of tireless work by the team, and we’re all proud to be able to show the new TVR Griffith to the world. This is unmistakably a TVR, a British muscle car that’s as awesome and brutal as it is charismatic and refined. Importantly, the new TVR offers levels of technical sophistication, comfort, reliability and practicality never seen by the brand before.

“Although our show car can’t be driven at the Revival, given the historic nature of the event, the show car is a fully drivable, fully finished car designed to be robustly test driven straight after the wraps come off.”

The first 500 cars will be specially configured and badged Launch Editions. Most have already been reserved by a faithful customer group dubbed the TVR 500. Most members placed £5000 deposits around 18 months ago and are on course to receive their cars during 2019. Launch Editions will be painted in bespoke colours and get their own version of the car’s infotainment system. Prices for the new model start at £90,000, after which they are expected to go both upwards and downwards depending on trim 
and equipment. However,
 at launch, TVR bosses want the first
 car to embody their determination to offer “a lot of bang for your buck”, as TVRs have always done.

Murray’s iStream process is delivered via a new-design factory
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new levels of compactness and efficiency. With Welsh government financial help, TVR is understood to be putting around £30 million into re-equipping an existing 184,000sq ft factory in the Rassau Industrial Estate, Ebbw Vale, close to the site of the proposed Circuit of Wales. TVR insists its plans won’t be affected by any circuit decision and it expects to generate up to 150 jobs when its production gets into full swing.

Edgar said TVR is on track to take possession of the factory in the second quarter next year. The company isn’t offering a precise timetable beyond that, but one convincing scenario is that factory preparation will take three to six months, pilot production should start before the end of the year and the first production cars should be on their way to early customers in the first quarter of 2019.

The production aim is to make and sell “the vast majority” of the TVR 500 launch-edition cars in 2019, after which annual production will grow to around 1000 cars. The debut of a second model, probably a convertible, and subsequent higher-performance, lightweight models reveal a potential annual production of around 2000 to 2200 cars “by about year five”. That number neatly matches current European Small Series type approval regulations for a two-car line-up.

TVR will concentrate at first on selling in the UK market, doing new-car business from its Ebbw Vale factory in the early years, although it aims also to involve “heritage service centres” (ie existing TVR specialists) in its new-car business. It is already signing up European distributors too, but US sales aren’t in the frame for the foreseeable future.

At first, the priority will be
 to keep faith with the original TVR 500, whose money
 the company will have been holding for well over two
 years by the time the first customers receive their cars. Several months ago, Edgar
 and colleagues moved to keep the group involved by staging
 a series of weekend ”meet the team” meetings, during which a full-sized model was displayed and new detail was revealed.

“We lost about half a dozen people from those events,” said Edgar, “but we gained 18 or 20. It was amazing to see at first hand how much they care.”

Additional reporting by Sam Sheehan

How the best of British compare

The new TVR, with its front/mid-mounted, normally aspirated V8, could hardly be more different from another recently arrived British GT, the mid-engined turbocharged McLaren 570S,
 yet the two promise very similar performance - a power-to-weight ratio of around 400bhp per tonne and a resulting, impressive 0-100mph time of about 6.4sec. The TVR is taller but narrower and impressively light, one of the virtues of its Gordon Murray-evolved iStream construction. Here’s how the two cars compare.



How the new TVR broke cover

Autocar was first, on 12 June 2013, to break the story that TVR’s old-established name and marque values had been rescued by a group of millionaire enthusiasts who had bought the company’s name and remaining assets from its former owner, Smolenski.

First details of the car the partners would build emerged from a secret Autocar briefing a fortnight later and resulted in a 26 June cover story that also included the first interview with the new company’s boss, Edgar.

By April 2014, we were talking about a new R&D centre in south England, but the real meat of the tale emerged on 3 June 2015, when we revealed the new TVR would be shaped and engineered at Gordon Murray Design (GMD) and powered by a Cosworth-modified Ford Mustang V8.

After that, details 
came to light slowly. By July 2015, we knew the company had started taking deposits for its first 500 cars. By 7 October, we had visited Cosworth 
in Northamptonshire to see TVR’s bosses start the first Cosworth-modded Ford V8 on the dyno. By January 2016, we knew the chassis would be made using GMD’s iStream Carbon process. By March 2016, we learned that TVR’s new factory would be in Wales.

The most recent big story was TVR’s series of weekend meetings for prospective buyers at GMD in March this year, where a clay model was shown for the first time. It justified another TVR cover story on 22 March and contained the first new TVR.




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I give them like 4 maybe 5 years before bankruptcy, but man will it be an awesome 4-5 years, and then 3-4 years off before the brand comes back again.
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So, they made the new Supra? Because that's kinda what I'd imagine the new Supra to look like.

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that is doing sports car correctly. go TVR.

now where did they put the door handles THIS time? the rear view mirror? Likely.
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that is doing sports car correctly. go TVR.

now where did they put the door handles THIS time? the rear view mirror? Likely.
Door release buttons are near the exhaust exit on the fender for access from outside, and under the seat from inside.

Surprised by engine choice, would be nuts if Cosworth gave it a flat plane crank as part of the modifications + equal length headers =
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Old 09-08-2017, 02:18 PM   #23
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Can't put my finger on it, but I think it looks meh.

Maybe too tall for its length, wheels look strange?
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