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Old 09-04-2019, 09:43 AM   #26
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^^^ most interesting part of that is the 2 speed transmission... very interesting.
I am a little disappointed about the range specially with a 2 speed transmission, the model 3 performance is rated at 329 miles WLTP.

The car looks good indeed
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Old 09-04-2019, 09:49 AM   #27
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Range is fine... and never ever compare the model 3 to the taycan.





One is a car built by people who know how to build cars.

The other is a Tesla.





Can you see how many light years behind Tesla is behind Porsche.

It is not even fair to compare them.
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Old 09-04-2019, 09:56 AM   #28
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Range is fine... and never ever compare the model 3 to the taycan.





One is a car built by people who know how to build cars.

The other is a Tesla.





Can you see how many light years behind Tesla is behind Porsche.

It is not even fair to compare them.
....

It looks good but it cost 3 times as much. Yes fit and finish will be much better.
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Old 09-04-2019, 09:59 AM   #29
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My datsun from 1971 has a better steering wheel than that.

THat model 3 wheel would look at home in a Kia Forte rental car. OR a used chevy cobalt

Come on I cannot be the only one who sees this.

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Old 09-04-2019, 10:10 AM   #30
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I generally don't care about styling, but they seem to have gone out of their way to please the d'bagger crowd. Probably better in a dark color with normal wheels, but not sure I can bring myself to even drive it for a week to check it out.
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Old 09-04-2019, 10:18 AM   #31
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Range is fine... and never ever compare the model 3 to the taycan.





One is a car built by people who know how to build cars.

The other is a Tesla.





Can you see how many light years behind Tesla is behind Porsche.

It is not even fair to compare them.
Well, to be fair it should be a Model S to Taycan comparison



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Old 09-04-2019, 10:20 AM   #32
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It is not much better man. LOL
But it does have gauges though. So that is a plus.
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Old 09-04-2019, 10:34 AM   #33
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It is not much better man. LOL
But it does have gauges though. So that is a plus.
yeah, if the Model3 had the older P90D gauges I probably would have bought one.
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Old 09-04-2019, 10:39 AM   #34
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So I watch the video and the last 10-ish minutes it lost sound, and from the tweets it seems it was an electrical problem

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Old 09-04-2019, 11:56 AM   #35
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Porsche Taycan Starts At $150,900, Most Expensive Is $241,150

https://www.motor1.com/news/368852/2...n-turbo-price/
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Old 09-04-2019, 12:44 PM   #36
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Porsche Taycan Starts At $150,900, Most Expensive Is $241,150

https://www.motor1.com/news/368852/2...n-turbo-price/
The $186K version doesn't include the smart cruise control. That's a $4k option
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Old 09-04-2019, 02:58 PM   #37
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wonder what the depreciation will look like on a Porsche EV after 5 years. I'm going to wager that it is a lot more than one of their petrol burners.
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I'm #3 at the stealer here. Will drive for a week, install anti-Tesla meme bumper stickers and sell on Craigslist
No way dude, don't be a d-bag. Do it right, and drive it every day. Rotate your neck at lights looking at the Tesla and cult member, drop the window down, then drop your sunglasses an inch or two. Priceless.
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No way dude, don't be a d-bag. Do it right, and drive it every day. Rotate your neck at lights looking at the Tesla and cult member, drop the window down, then drop your sunglasses an inch or two. Priceless.
I'd have to go buy sunglasses Think I'll release my spot in line for the Toucan. I'm sure I know some complete douchebags from the gym who would "like totally need" the spot, so I'll be sure to tell them about it after I've given it back to the sales leach They just keep rotating me onto lists of the up and coming cars.
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I'd have to go buy sunglasses Think I'll release my spot in line for the Toucan. I'm sure I know some complete douchebags from the gym who would "like totally need" the spot, so I'll be sure to tell them about it after I've given it back to the sales leach They just keep rotating me onto lists of the up and coming cars.
I like it man. AWD, fast AF. Would be a very nice DD.
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Old 09-04-2019, 05:29 PM   #41
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Why the hell is Porsche calling the faster Taycans "Turbo" and "Turbo S"

People who buy Porsches aren't usually dumb


Edit: wait a sec, I just remembered that they still refer to the 911 like that, even though they all have turbochargers now... Oh well
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Old 09-04-2019, 06:04 PM   #42
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LOLOLOL

Taycan Turbo S

MMM turbo.... now that is funny.

Still it is not bad looking
It'll be just like the Turbo button on my Intel 486 in the early 90s!!!! Porsche is going RETRO. 100/33 MHz Baaaabyyy!

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Old 09-04-2019, 06:36 PM   #43
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its a minor thing but I am annoyed by the turbo and turbo S naming as well. Turbo 911s are not turbos but sedans driven by angry pixies are.......its a bit perplexing from a company that is traditionally excellent at marketing


I am holding out for the RS version
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Plot twist: transmission is a powerglide
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remember that the marketing gets a say in the design and branding. They're not known for caring much for accuracy and truth.
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https://www.thecarconnection.com/new...porsche-taycan

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The 2020 Taycan may be the hottest new luxury electric vehicle, but Porsche has a long road ahead if it plans to dethrone the Tesla Model S in the eyes of the buying public.
According to a consumer survey conducted by Autolist, Tesla still has the advantage when it comes to EV ownership (or even potential EV ownership). Of the 1,500 Americans surveyed, 45% of respondents picked the Model S as their likely purchase versus just 33% who would pick the all-new Porsche Taycan.
Respondents were asked to list the top three reasons for their choice of either the Model S or Taycan. The top two reasons for picking the Tesla were brand reputation (41%) and Model S performance (34%). Efficiency, styling, trust in Tesla's ability to build EVs and the existence of the Supercharger network all tied for third place at 24 percent.
Porsche fans, on the other hand, were far more focused in their responses. Brand reputation (59%), performance (46%) and exterior styling (37%) were the top three reasons given for choosing the German performance brand's first electric vehicle.
While it may seem to have been lost in the noise, it's still clear that one key to Tesla's advantage is its exclusive Supercharger network. While Porsche's 800-volt charging system may seem like a trump card, America's current fast-charging infrastructure is neither capable of delivering enough power to supply it nor prolific enough to be accessible to potential owners.


Tesla Supercharger site in Vacaville, California, before expansion [photo: George Parrott]

Porsche's "Turbo Charging" stations will be able to deliver the juice, but for the time being they will only be found at Porsche dealerships. In the wild, Taycan owners will have to settle for 400-volt solutions available at America's still-nascent fast-charging networks.
The survey was conducted prior to Wednesday's unveiling of the 2020 Porsche Taycan, so it's possible that greater exposure may change some buyers' minds. In the meantime, it's clear that Porsche is fighting an uphill battle against the best-selling electric vehicle brand.
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^The Pontiac Aztec was designed based entirely on focus group input. It was exactly what people said they wanted. People lie, but the takeaway from that in marketing circles was how people lied to themselves.

Simpler example is tipping at restaurants - people say they don't want to know the name of the server and definitely don't want to be touched. Tips were higher when the name was given, and higher still when the patron was touched on the shoulder while dropping the check. (study from the 90's, can find if someone interested)

The clear willingness of people to buy EV's today, for more money than an equivalent or better ICE, is nothing short of amazing from an economics and marketing perspective. I think it's ultimately due to the dumbing and coddling of the masses (unable to run objective data, emphasize intangibles driven by in-group bias), but from the perspective of the individual purchaser, the data says they believe the exact opposite. Yay for ejukashun 'n grooptink.

I'll buy an EV when the value prop or the performance metrics are better.
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Old 09-05-2019, 11:04 AM   #48
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I don't think the Tycan should be compared to the Model S anymore. Pricing between the two are miles apart, the same with range, interior space and cargo space.

They Tycan is a sweet sport luxury sedan and it is in a class of its own.
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Old 09-05-2019, 03:24 PM   #49
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Why the hell is Porsche calling the faster Taycans "Turbo" and "Turbo S"

People who buy Porsches aren't usually dumb


Edit: wait a sec, I just remembered that they still refer to the 911 like that, even though they all have turbochargers now... Oh well
I almost pooped myself when I read they were calling it a "Turbo."
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Well, most electricicles are created by turbines.
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