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Old 01-10-2020, 06:52 PM   #26
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Eh, if one were available to buy when I went shopping last I'd have bought one. Properly set up like the CTR there is just nothing wrong with FWD.
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Old 01-10-2020, 07:19 PM   #27
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But why can't they tone it down? Such a great car let down by the stupid. They painted the swoops inside the fake front AND matching rear vents for smurf sake. Is that really necessary Honda?
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Old 01-10-2020, 07:36 PM   #28
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Yeah, the styling is a bit much.
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Old 01-10-2020, 09:27 PM   #29
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The front swoop actually looks good as it breaks up the big black fake vent. On the back it looks a little more odd but it appears Honda was trying to appease the critics of the fake vents but not to the extent of going to go through the trouble of making all new bumper covers. Like some Subarus I find the styling looks a little better over time.
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Old 01-10-2020, 09:36 PM   #30
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FWD has come a long way. CTR styling, nope.
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Old 01-10-2020, 09:44 PM   #31
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Now that this car has been out for awhile, I don't think it's too overstyled. I've mostly gotten used to the car, it's just the wing that still sooks stupid. If you give it a normal wing, it would be just fine. I'm sure there is a trunk trade thread in the local Honda forums the way we've had for the STI trunks.
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Old 01-10-2020, 09:53 PM   #32
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I think it actually looks rather striking in person - wing and all. The worst thing about the CTR is the sound. I was shocked the first time I saw one drive by. It sounds like a 2005 Civic LX.
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Old 01-11-2020, 10:12 AM   #33
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Now that this car has been out for awhile, I don't think it's too overstyled. I've mostly gotten used to the car, it's just the wing that still sooks stupid. If you give it a normal wing, it would be just fine. I'm sure there is a trunk trade thread in the local Honda forums the way we've had for the STI trunks.
Yeah, it's pure garbage, really. They dialed the vents, scoops, wings, contrasting paint and bedazzling eye candy up to 11 and it looks like a spaceship, in a really bad way.

On a related note, 2 more years until EK9 Type Rs are legal to import.



But lets not forget that even back in the 90s, they added a facelifted bumper with extreme aero vents.



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Old 01-11-2020, 11:09 AM   #34
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I would buy one in a heartbeat if they came with a less aggressive wheel/tire combo, even if they continue to refuse to make a version for grown ups. I can live with those faux vents, scoops and spoilers BUT it has one fatal flaw...Those wheels and tires would not last a week where I live. I know you can change both BUT then it would negate the handling and in turn dilute the point of getting this car in the first place. Never mind hitting a pot hole an grenading those wheels and tires...There is also stuff like this:

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a2...e-r-tire-wear/

I just can't deal with that if this was my daily.
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Old 01-11-2020, 11:27 AM   #35
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I think it actually looks rather striking in person - wing and all. The worst thing about the CTR is the sound. I was shocked the first time I saw one drive by. It sounds like a 2005 Civic LX.
No it sounds like my 2017 Civic Sport. Which is not a good thing.
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Old 01-11-2020, 11:34 AM   #36
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I would buy one in a heartbeat if they came with a less aggressive wheel/tire combo, even if they continue to refuse to make a version for grown ups. I can live with those faux vents, scoops and spoilers BUT it has one fatal flaw...Those wheels and tires would not last a week where I live. I know you can change both BUT then it would negate the handling and in turn dilute the point of getting this car in the first place. Never mind hitting a pot hole an grenading those wheels and tires...There is also stuff like this:

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a2...e-r-tire-wear/

I just can't deal with that if this was my daily.
It wouldn't hurt anything to drop to 19s or even 18s if you use the right wheel and tire.
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Old 01-11-2020, 11:46 AM   #37
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I guess I’m one of the few who dog the styling. Call me boy racer I guess.
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Old 01-11-2020, 12:24 PM   #38
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The last three or so CTR's I have seen on the road were driven by 50 year old plus dudes. The styling is polarizing at first but you get used to it very quickly. There are tons of weird looking new cars on the market nowadays.
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The last three or so CTR's I have seen on the road were driven by 50 year old plus dudes. The styling is polarizing at first but you get used to it very quickly. There are tons of weird looking new cars on the market nowadays.
I like the overdone styling, at least itís not generically boring and in my opinion, much better than the STI. I think if most people were 10-15 years younger they would be all about it. Now weíre old and boring.
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Old 01-11-2020, 01:21 PM   #40
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I would buy one in a heartbeat if they came with a less aggressive wheel/tire combo, even if they continue to refuse to make a version for grown ups. I can live with those faux vents, scoops and spoilers BUT it has one fatal flaw...Those wheels and tires would not last a week where I live. I know you can change both BUT then it would negate the handling and in turn dilute the point of getting this car in the first place. Never mind hitting a pot hole an grenading those wheels and tires...There is also stuff like this:

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a2...e-r-tire-wear/

I just can't deal with that if this was my daily.
I agree. Needing to swap the rims and tires immediately sucks. Having a weird et50 offset thatís integral to front suspension geometry is too much. You either need to drop $2000+ on rims to get the proper offset of you cheap out and compromise the handling.
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Old 01-11-2020, 02:19 PM   #41
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I guess Iím one of the few who dog the styling. Call me boy racer I guess.
Naa. I like it too. I expect to own an EVO, STi or a CTR well into my retirement. Albeit by then lots of time will have passed and Iíll be able to get my hands on a JDM FD3-RX7, Accord Euro R, S15 Silvia and a R34 GT-R Vspec II.
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Old 01-11-2020, 02:42 PM   #42
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What Acura NSX sales?

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Low production cars sell in low numbers?

Who'd a thunk it?
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Old 01-11-2020, 03:15 PM   #43
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I like the overdone styling, at least itís not generically boring and in my opinion, much better than the STI. I think if most people were 10-15 years younger they would be all about it. Now weíre old and boring.
Yeah, I don't mind it.

That's what these cars are - econo-pocket rockets.
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I like the overdone styling, at least itís not generically boring and in my opinion, much better than the STI. I think if most people were 10-15 years younger they would be all about it. Now weíre old and boring.
I don't dislike the CTR but I do prefer cleaner lines, like the Golf R for example. MK6 R is my favorite. A bit more spicy than the MK7 (2 door, center exhaust) but just tame enough to bland into traffic. Limited STI (no wing please) would be my second favorite design in this class.
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Old 01-11-2020, 05:38 PM   #45
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Still nope from me. IMO Focus RS is about the limit for "look at me, racecar!" exterior. A Type S(leeper) version with none of the gaudy exterior bits and a more real-world friendly wheel and tire combo may help change the minds of those who cannot get past the FF looks.
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Low production cars sell in low numbers?

Who'd a thunk it?
Either don't get snippy, or try to keep up:
https://www.autoblog.com/2019/05/16/...0000-discount/
https://www.driveandreview.com/is-th...-recent-times/
https://www.dispatch.com/business/20...ercent-in-2018

Acura has the NSX factory building fancy version of the TLX in order to give workers something to do, since demand for the NSX is much lower than expected.
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Old 01-12-2020, 12:14 AM   #47
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I would buy one in a heartbeat if they came with a less aggressive wheel/tire combo, even if they continue to refuse to make a version for grown ups. I can live with those faux vents, scoops and spoilers BUT it has one fatal flaw...Those wheels and tires would not last a week where I live. I know you can change both BUT then it would negate the handling and in turn dilute the point of getting this car in the first place. Never mind hitting a pot hole an grenading those wheels and tires...There is also stuff like this:

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a2...e-r-tire-wear/

I just can't deal with that if this was my daily.
Best option seems to be 19" NSX wheels. Since the offset is close enough to not mess up the handling and keeps it in the same auto X class.
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Old 01-12-2020, 11:50 PM   #48
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The 2020 model looks a little better but the styling of the Type R has grown on me in general. Mine is black and IMO the black or dark gray colors aren't too busy, they actually look good. The new blue looks fine to me too.

I just, man, I don't find the car exciting to drive. Coming from an AWD WRX and then a Focus RS the Civic is pretty boring. And I'd be terrified to add power to it as a daily driver. Stock the FWD loses traction all the time. If there was an AWD option with a small power bump to cover the extra weight, it'd be about perfect. Because the Type R is an excellent daily driver. It just sucks in anything but dry weather.
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Old 01-13-2020, 05:24 AM   #49
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Acura says in their study the target audience for the Honda civic type R loves the styling. The Rear end is a little much for me, probably my age. From a daily driver standpoint guess you could throw in Looks and value too. Get the Si or Si/ tune. The reviews I read of tuned Si where all pretty compelling. Accord Sport with a tune is another option when considering type r purchase. Christ the new Civic is about the same size as last generation accord.
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Old 01-13-2020, 08:01 AM   #50
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The R styling is a little too much for me, but I am late 40's so probably not their target demographic.

Having said that I don't mind Honda taking some styling chances and trying to do something different. I have driven one once and I was very impressed with the overall package, it's a great little daily driver. And in person I liked it more than in the pictures.

My wife would never drive it though, way too boy racer.
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