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Old 04-04-2020, 06:15 AM   #1
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In the past day or so, VIN decoders allegedly corresponding to multiple 2021 model year Fords have surfaced on the internet. One of them was for the F-150 pickup truck, one for the Mustang Mach-E electric crossover, and one for the 2021 Mustang, which looks set to lose its beloved Shelby GT350 and GT350R trims—but more importantly—bring the Mach 1 nameplate back from the grave.

Posted this week to Mustang Mach-E forum MachEClub.com, the VIN decoder in question suggests that all engine options available on the 2020 Mustang will continue to be available for the 2021 model, sans one of the 2020 5.2-liter power plants. Both the naturally aspirated Voodoo in the GT350 and supercharged Predator in the GT500 share this displacement, but only the GT500 is listed as an available body style for the 2021 Mustang—so you do the math yourself.

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In the GT350's place, Ford will allegedly sell the Mustang Mach 1, reviving a nameplate last seen in 2004 on the fourth-generation SN95 model. It's impossible to tell which engine would correspond to this trim, though the Mach 1 has historically not been the most powerful Mustang, so don't hang your hopes on it sharing the GT500's 760-horsepower heart.

Similarly, don't take this VIN decoder as absolute gospel, as it made its way online on April 1 without any letterhead linking it to Ford or the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA). As with the F-150 decoder, we tried to independently verify its contents through the NHTSA's public VIN decoder system by plugging in a sample VIN for the supposed 2021 Mustang Mach 1, which the database believed to be an improperly entered VIN for a 1991 model.



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In our opinion, we think the Shelby GT350 should be somewhat safe, as Ford showed faith in the submodel by upgrading it yet again for the 2020 model year, something carmakers don't typically do for a swan song model year. Typically, anyway.

Ford's spokesperson for the Mustang, Berj Alexanian, was unable to comment on the supposed replacement of the GT350, citing company policy against discussing future product plans. He advised, however, that fans of the pony car "stay tuned as there's always more excitement around Mustang to come."


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Since they typically toss some extra HP to the "special" Mustangs, I'm interested to see what they do to the already stressed for power Gen 3 Coyote. I could see giving it the Bullit upgrades but that's kind of "boring". Perhaps it'll have the oft rumored by not released Gen 3 Performance Pack 2 upgrades.
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Old 05-30-2020, 08:16 AM   #3
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The Ford Mustang Mach 1 has floated in and out of the pony car lineup a few times since its original debut in 1969, with its most recent appearance happening 2004. Now, Ford says it’s planning to revive the classic nameplate for the 2021 model year, and from the sound of it, the new car should be a substantive improvement over the current GT. In fact, the Blue Oval is claiming that it will be the "most track-ready 5.0-liter Mustang ever."

Despite several leaks early this year, Ford is being extra secretive with the new car's design or performance details, but teaser photos reveal that the new Mach 1 will get a fresh front end and subtle changes to the rear—including a large but tasteful rear wing. From the images provided by Ford, we can see new air inlets on each side of the bumper and a larger, lower grille compared to the current Mustang GT. No word yet on if or how these affect performance, but they're most likely not only for looks.

Around back, the spoiler design appears slightly different than the unit found in the GT or even GT500, and the lower part of the bumper looks to have been massaged a bit, but it’s awfully similar to its current counterpart. Of course, just because Ford released these images it doesn't mean the design cues will make it into production, but it's safe to say that the visible Brembo brakes and 305/30ZR19 Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 tires on 19-inch wheels will most likely be offered in some trims.

While these images don't seem to show a radically different design, things get quite interesting when you compare it to the 2004 Mach 1 pictured above. It's especially interesting to see the reduced airflow capacity that generation Mustang offered, with considerably smaller air intakes in the bumper and grille.

Ford didn't disclose performance numbers, but we're thinking that somewhere north of 500 horsepower to best the Bullitt's 480 is an educated guess. Considering the Mach 1 has, throughout time, bridged the gap between the regular Mustangs and the Shelbys, it will most likely be a proper—if not budget—performer.

More information will be available in June, per Ford.
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Old 05-31-2020, 05:50 AM   #4
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Ford has confirmed it is readying a fast Mustang Mach 1 performance flagship that could replace the Ford Mustang Bullitt Down Under.

Created to slot in the current Mustang range above the V8-powered GT but below the Shelby GT350 available in the US, the new Mustang Mach 1 resurrects a name first used by Ford back in 1969 for a faster version of its pony car.

Teased with images of a part-camouflaged version of the Mustang Mach 1 testing in the US, it’s clear the latest limited edition ‘Stang will come with revised front styling that includes a new diamond-mesh grille that gets two large portholes – a design cue that’s said to pay homage to the original ’69 Mach 1.

Look closer and the lower half of the bumper has also been restyled, while a prominent front splitter has been added, hinting at comprehensive aero updates above and beneath the skin.

At the rear, a large spoiler, bigger diffuser and redesigned bumper, plus enlarged quad pipes cement its performance credentials.

A third pic reveals the latest 2020 Mustang Mach 1 will come with bigger Brembo brakes and lightweight 19-inch alloy rims that are wrapped with 305/30 Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 tyres.

Rumoured to be a replacement for the Mustang Bullitt, as well as a retuned suspension that borrows tricks from the GT350, the Mach 1 is rumoured to come with a more powerful version of that car’s naturally aspirated 5.0-litre V8, with power likely to be wound up from 345kW to around 375kW.

Set to go on sale later this year in the US, it’s thought the Mustang Mach 1 will be offered in Australia.

When it arrives it’s unlikely it will command quite the excitement as the Steve-McQueen-inspired Mustang Bullitt that touched down in Australia in September 2018 and was such an instant hit, Ford Australia had to run a ballot for the final 10 vehicles.




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I'm sure Ford dealers will be offering their usual fair and reasonable deals on this model.

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….comes with the "800 H.P rear drive litigation mitigation external airbag package" that instantly detects crowds and out of control fishtailing from overpower chassis; panels pop off and airbags deploy resulting in a fluffy cushiony impact with crowds resulting in a ticklish push on the body where targets land safely in the arms of other spectators of the cars leaving shows. It also protects kangaroos, trees, guardrails and telephone polls, elderly crossing streets etc.
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….comes with the "800 H.P rear drive litigation mitigation external airbag package" that instantly detects crowds and out of control fishtailing from overpower chassis; panels pop off and airbags deploy resulting in a fluffy cushiony impact with crowds resulting in a ticklish push on the body where targets land safely in the arms of other spectators of the cars leaving shows. It also protects kangaroos, trees, guardrails and telephone polls, elderly crossing streets etc.


Oh yeah. I keep forgetting about this stigma.

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That deal is so tired. I’ve seen so many videos of so many different RWD cars peeling out and wrecking. Give it a rest.
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If it uses the usual **** manual gearbox instead of the good one in the GT350 and Camaro SS it's a big fail.
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2021 Mustang Mach 1 Power And Torque Numbers Potentially Revealed

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Just last week, Ford officially announced that it was bringing the Mustang Mach 1 back for the 2021 model year, while sharing a few heavily-camouflaged shots of the car and dropping a few hints as to what we could expect from it. And yesterday, we’ve also gotten our hands on some new Mach 1 spy shots that show off a few interesting details about the car. But what everyone really wants to know is, just what will the Mach 1 power and torque numbers be? Luckily, Ford Authority has the scoop.

So far, the only thing Ford has officially confirmed is that the Mustang Mach 1 will be powered by the naturally-aspirated 5.0L Coyote V8 engine. The automaker has also stated in its announcement that the limited-edition pony will be the “epitome” of its segment, which one could interpret to mean that it will deliver higher levels of performance, better handling and more power than the current king of the naturally-aspirated Coyote game – the Mustang Bullitt. That model, which the Mach 1 is indirectly replacing, is rated at 480 horsepower and 420 pound-feet of torque – a 20 horsepower improvement over the regular Ford Mustang GT.

Sources familiar with product plans have told Ford Authority that The Blue Oval is aiming for Mach 1 power and torque figures to be even higher than those of the Bullitt. In fact, engineers are shooting for 525 horsepower and 450 pound-feet of torque, which certainly represents a healthy increase over the Bullitt and the regular Mustang GT.



It’s also important to keep in mind the other Mustang that the Mach 1 will indirectly replace – the Shelby GT350. The model is powered by the naturally-aspirated, flat plane crank 5.2L Voodoo V8, which is rated at 526 horsepower and 429 pound-feet of torque. With a target of 525 horses and 450 pound-feet for the Mach 1, it would seem that Ford is aiming to deliver comparable levels of output to the Shelby GT350.

Model Engine Horsepower @ RPM Pound-Feet Torque @ RPM Source
2020 Mustang GT Base 5.0L Coyote V8 460 @ 7,500 420 @ 4,600 Ford Official
2020 Mustang Bullitt 5.0L Coyote V8 480 @ 7,000 420 @ 4,600 Ford Official
2020 Mustang Shelby GT350 5.2L Voodoo V8 FPC 526 @ 7,500 429 @ 4,750 Ford Official
2021 Mustang Mach 1 5.0L Coyote V8 525 450 Ford Authority sources

How, exactly, engineers will boost the Coyote’s output for the Mach 1 is currently unclear, but given just how receptive the free-revving dual overhead cam engine is to modifications, squeezing out the additional power should not be all that challenging.

The last time the 5.0L Coyote engine got a power boost was in 2018, gaining 25 horsepower when the third-generation motor gained dual-injection. And earlier this year, Ford Performance rolled out a new Coyote performance calibration that adds 42 pound-feet of torque at 2,000 rpm and 19 horsepower at 6,500 RPM, along with 18 pound-foot of torque at 4,500 rpm.

One interesting thing to keep in mind is that very few have upgraded the camshafts in the Coyote. With pushrod engines, the cam is one of the first things that gets replaced by those looking to squeeze more power from their engines. In fact, even the previous-gen Shelby GT500 has become a hot candidate for aftermarket cams, but not the Coyote. This is mostly due to cost associated with upgrading four cams in a DOHC engine like the Coyote, compared to just one in a pushrod motor.

Additionally, little has been done when it comes to upgrading the heads in the Coyote, so there’s potentially some room for improvement there. But in all fairness, tuners haven’t really needed to do much in this area, since E85 and a solid tune will deliver around 500 wheel horsepower from the third gen Coyote.

Needless to say, we’re very much interested to see what Ford does to achieve the Mach 1 power and torque numbers. But for now, all we know is that 525 horsepower and 450 pound-feet is the objective set forth for engineers.
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I had an intake/tune on my 2012 Coyote with similar results and man did that thing rip.
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Bridging the gap between Mustang GT and Shelby models, the Mach 1 packs a naturally aspirated 5.0-liter V8 engine making 480 horsepower, Ford Performance parts from the Shelby GT350 and GT500, as well as a unique design inside and out. You’ll notice that the engine has the same power and torque ratings as the 2020 Mustang Bullitt; namely 480 HP at 7,000 rpm and 420 lb-ft (569 Nm) at 4,600 rpm.



While die-hard pony car fans expected more power, they will be very pleased to learn that the standard transmission is the same six-speed Tremec 3160 manual from the Shelby GT350. For the first time, Ford has updated the Tremec gearbox with rev-matching and Mustang GT’s twin-disc clutch and short-throw shifter.

Read Also: Ford Mustang Owners Sue Over Allegedly Faulty Six-Speed Manual


2021 Ford Mustang Mach 1 in standard specification
The transmission is not the only thing borrowed from the GT350 as the Mach 1’s engine also integrates revised Shelby GT350 components including the intake manifold, oil filter adapter and engine oil cooler which increase engine oil cooling capability by 50 percent.

Customers who are not that much into driving stick shift can choose the available 10-speed SelectShift automatic transmission with an upgraded torque converter and unique calibration “that enables optimizing torque capability, shift character and overall enhanced performance.” A second air-to-oil cooler is said to increase cooling capacity by 75 percent on the Mach 1 with the automatic transmission.

Recognizing the 2021 Mustang Mach 1 will be easy thanks to unique design elements. At the front, they include the model-specific grille with a deep 3-D mesh, shark-nosed section and faux lamp elements flanking the low-gloss Magnetic pony badge, as well as new side grilles below each turn signal lamp. A large front splitter is continued by sharp side skirts and an generous Shelby GT500-sourced diffuser at the rear flanked by quad round exhausts.

The vehicle also features low-gloss Magnetic and black accents across the bodywork, including the mirror caps and rear spoiler. The 19 x 9.5-inch (front) and 19 x 10-inch (rear) Tarnished Dark-painted aluminum wheels in a five-spoke design are unique to the Mach 1 and pay homage to the classic Magnum 500 style wheels.

The 2021 Mach 1 also sports Satin Black side and hood stripes with reflective accent stripes in Red, White and Orange. Exterior color options include the exclusive Fighter Jet Gray (Appearance Package only), as well as Iconic Silver, Shadow Black, Oxford White, Velocity Blue, Twister Orange, Race Red and Grabber Yellow.

The 2021 Ford Mustang Mach 1’s optional Handling Package available exclusively with the six-speed manual adds a larger unique higher downforce front splitter, new front wheel lip moldings, and a low-gloss Magnetic swing spoiler with a Gurney flap and rear tire spats from Shelby GT500. The pack also includes unique, wider 19-inch x 10.5-inch front, and 19-inch x 11-inch rear Tarnished Dark-painted aluminum wheels.

Ford claims the Mach 1 features 22 percent more downforce than a Mustang GT with Performance Pack Level 1, with the Handling Package increasing downforce by 150 percent. But the car’s most aerodynamically important upgrade is the underbelly pan which extends 20 inches (508 mm) further rearward than on a Mustang GT Performance Pack.

This is said to smooth and increase the airflow under the front of the car while large underwing features in the belly pan increase downforce. Additionally, special belly pan airfoils in the brake cooling ramps improve downforce and assist the brake cooling flow, which is a first for the Mustang.

What about the suspension? The Mach 1 features the latest MagneRide calibration, a stiffer steering I-shaft, new EPAS calibration, stiffer sway bars and front springs, as well as a rear subframe with stiffer bushings and a rear toe-link from Shelby GT500 to improve ride and handling. It also features a brake booster from the Mustang GT Performance Pack Level 2 and Michelin PS4 tires.

Inside, customers are treated with a unique Dark Spindrift instrument panel with aluminum accents, Ebony seats with an accent stripe (on models featuring a leather upholstery), and white cue ball shift knob (for the manual gearbox). Also included are new door sill plates, an updated splash screen on the 12.3-inch digital instrument cluster, and engraved badging displaying the vehicle’s unique chassis number.



The 2021 Mustang Mach 1 will arrive in dealerships across the United States and Canada in the spring of 2021 as a limited-edition model. How limited is anyone’s guess for now, though the carmaker did say the Mach 1 is a global model.

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Another Article

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a3...ch-1-revealed/

So looks like a S550 greatest hits package. PPlvl2 + Bullitt motor + GT350 trans and camber plates (10AT optional) + GT500 rear spoiler.

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I love it. I’m sure it’s ridiculously expensive.
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I don't care for the double-chin spoiler, but the vehicle has gained significant weight over the years, so it was bound to happen.

Joking aside, aesthetically I don't like what they did with the chin spoiler, and I'm not into the wheels, but I'm sure it's a potent package.

I wonder how close the pricing gap will be between this and the GT350 is; I'm still of the mindset that if I'm getting more than a base GT, I may as well pony-up for the GT350, because of the voodoo that it do.
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I don't care for the double-chin spoiler, but the vehicle has gained significant weight over the years, so it was bound to happen.

Joking aside, aesthetically I don't like what they did with the chin spoiler, and I'm not into the wheels, but I'm sure it's a potent package.

I wonder how close the pricing gap will be between this and the GT350 is; I'm still of the mindset that if I'm getting more than a base GT, I may as well pony-up for the GT350, because of the voodoo that it do.
Neither engine has a rep for reliability, but I have the sense that the voodoo engine is an EJ level time bomb.
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these cars are WAY overpowered as it is. Have to understand that what is really going on in these high horsepower V8 production ramp ups is the threat posed by electric cars...even at 480-520+ horsepower they wont be a match for what is coming from Tesla and NIO and others.

And all the speculation on HOW they are going to coax more power from these mustang V8s? Well considering they have been under rated by 20 horsepower to begin with they just under rate them less and change something small LOL on the new models. They are LOOOONG overdue for allwheel drive at these power levels....unusable on the street in RWD form pretty much. What are they waiting for? The purests will balk at an AWD mustang...but they are making an electric mach 1 crossover? Electric car technology is changing everything...even if manufacturers clamoring to build the highest horsepower V8's ever to stave them off. It wont work for long.
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I don't care for the double-chin spoiler, but the vehicle has gained significant weight over the years, so it was bound to happen.

Joking aside, aesthetically I don't like what they did with the chin spoiler, and I'm not into the wheels, but I'm sure it's a potent package.

I wonder how close the pricing gap will be between this and the GT350 is; I'm still of the mindset that if I'm getting more than a base GT, I may as well pony-up for the GT350, because of the voodoo that it do.
The 2020 GT350 is the last model year of the car. Hence the Mach1. I am guessing by the time the Mach1 hits dealer lots there will be very few GT350's left for sale (new).
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these cars are WAY overpowered as it is. Have to understand that what is really going on in these high horsepower V8 production ramp ups is the threat posed by electric cars...even at 480-520+ horsepower they wont be a match for what is coming from Tesla and NIO and others.

And all the speculation on HOW they are going to coax more power from these mustang V8s? Well considering they have been under rated by 20 horsepower to begin with they just under rate them less and change something small LOL on the new models. They are LOOOONG overdue for allwheel drive at these power levels....unusable on the street in RWD form pretty much. What are they waiting for? The purests will balk at an AWD mustang...but they are making an electric mach 1 crossover? Electric car technology is changing everything...even if manufacturers clamoring to build the highest horsepower V8's ever to stave them off. It wont work for long.
I daily drive a GT350. It is not overpowered. It actually has a very linear hp/torque band all the way up to 8200rpm. It's not like some cars that have all the power below 5K rpm. No forced induction. It's extremely easy to manage power on this car and with the suspension/tires and brakes it's extremely easy maintain control and stop.

Not everyone wants an AWD electric car. Yes, electric cars are able to put power down better at each corner, but you also end up with a car with little to no soul (no manual, no V8 exhaust note, tons of computers managing everything you do, having to manage power consumption/charging/etc).

If all you care about is specs then an electric car is for you. And be prepared to pay a lot more.
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I want it? It's like a Mustang equivalent of the Corvette Grand Sport.
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I want it? It's like a Mustang equivalent of the Corvette Grand Sport.
It's what the PP2 should have been all along with a proper Tremec transmission and proper cooling. It should be neck and neck with an SS1LE on track but it does not have the short comings of the Camaro like visibility, ergonomics, etc.

I think the price is going to be up there though. I suspect starting in $50-52K and topping out at or over $60K loaded.
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It's what the PP2 should have been all along with a proper Tremec transmission and proper cooling. It should be neck and neck with an SS1LE on track but it does not have the short comings of the Camaro like visibility, ergonomics, etc.

I think the price is going to be up there though. I suspect starting in $50-52K and topping out at or over $60K loaded.
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Its AMAZING no one has been killed by one of these cars leaving a car show or jumping the wall at a track.


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The A10 is the car to get IMHO. They are great in a straight line and with the handling upgrades I imagine they will be a blast to drive. The Tremec is a great upgrade as the MT-82 is rather garbage.

I never understood that 525 number floated. The motor is stretched as it is.

It's a parts bin car. Parts bin cars are largely the best buys if costs are held down.
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