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Old 05-25-2024, 04:37 AM   #11876
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You have Google, no need to take my word for it.


Define "Modern"? 80's and 90's cars are 25+ years old now, that isn't considered "Modern" anymore.

I never said anything about something with 350hp being underpowered. Something like the 2023 Mitsubishi Mirage is underpowered with 78hp and will struggle with mountain passes just like simular powered economy cars from the 80's and 90's.
my first car was a Plymouth Horizon with 64hp.

i had to turn off the AC in summer to get up this local hill.

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Old 05-25-2024, 11:54 AM   #11877
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The amount of time it took you to type for me to google, you could have typed one example. However, my google search came up with this:

https://www.autoweek.com/car-life/cl...-transmission/


https://www.autoweek.com/car-life/co...-transmission/


Soooo, what were you saying again about "still" being sold? Used market? Other countries(not relevant to our conversation)?
I said they were still being sold in the 80's and 90's, within the 12 year window of the early 2000's. I wasn't wrong as your post just proved.


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I didn't say that you "said" 350 was underpowered. I said you "may think" as in being an example.......more so an example for anyone. "Underpowered" pertains to what the car's being used for. People are saying the WRX is underpowered; but, can handle those mountain roads you are talking about just fine. The 78hp Mirage is just fine for what it is for. Are you repeatedly scaling mountains? Have you actually tried that mountain pass with a Mirage? Seems a different car is what is needed. You don't buy the wrong thing then complain about it.
Millions of people have daily drives up steep grades in this country is the point. That and traffic on our highways is regularly moving in the 80mph range, so under 100hp cars with gearing not designed to handle those speeds and not enough power to deal with grades are not vehicles that can "Keep up" with traffic.

So, to close, the point is 12 year thing now isn't a big deal because cars in the last 20 years still function as well as they do now. Got it?

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Old 05-25-2024, 03:55 PM   #11878
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I'm guessing you've never driven up to Donner Pass from Truckee with a car that can't hold the speed limit in any gear? Or uphill at the Grapevine?

That's my definition of an "underpowered" vehicle, if it can't handle a high mountain pass like that on a major highway. My first Impreza with its 110hp EJ18 and AWD could only hold 50mph in third gear up said pass.

Ignore the horsepower and look at the gearing. There were still cars geared to just do 55mph on the highway and at say 80mph are pushing crazy RPMs. Lots of 3 speed autos and 4 speed manuals still being sold without "overdrive" gears. Not as bad as the cars from the 70's.






All for one word my eyes didn't register. Much apologies...


HOWEVER it woulda helped to still throw a year on there. You know. For goobers like me that sometimes read too fast and not double back for a second read.
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Old 05-25-2024, 05:01 PM   #11879
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I'm guessing you've never driven up to Donner Pass from Truckee with a car that can't hold the speed limit in any gear? Or uphill at the Grapevine?

That's my definition of an "underpowered" vehicle, if it can't handle a high mountain pass like that on a major highway. My first Impreza with its 110hp EJ18 and AWD could only hold 50mph in third gear up said pass.

Ignore the horsepower and look at the gearing. There were still cars geared to just do 55mph on the highway and at say 80mph are pushing crazy RPMs. Lots of 3 speed autos and 4 speed manuals still being sold without "overdrive" gears. Not as bad as the cars from the 70's.
I understand, what you are saying, 100%. Here, all our highways and tollways have service roads. Routinely, to leave my crib to do anything, I have to make a right onto a service road, with posted 45 mph signs, but people are doing 55 mph. Unless you have some power youíll be stuck waiting for 5 minutes + and the people behind you waiting will be honking at you. My MY13 Leaf, has just enough but I have to hammer it to the floor, WFO while making a right. Anything slower, not a chance in hell. I could avoid getting on the service roads from a dead stop but add a bunch of time for every drive. Some decent power = safety. Iíve said this for years. Heís said that deal for more than a decade. Wouldnít work around here. Iíd be taking on too much risk.
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Old 05-25-2024, 05:37 PM   #11880
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All for one word my eyes didn't register. Much apologies...

HOWEVER it woulda helped to still throw a year on there. You know. For goobers like me that sometimes read too fast and not double back for a second read.
All good, I was wondering what was going on because in the end we both don't really think the average joe needs big horsepower cars for daily use
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Old 05-26-2024, 01:58 PM   #11881
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270 HP on the new WRX seemed fine. Finally got around to test driving one to see if getting behind the wheel could tempt me to trade in my 2015 with CVT for a TR. Itching so bad to get back into a manual. I love the way it drove but canít get past the plastic cladding no matter how hard I try. Told myself Subaru is about function over form. Still didnít work. Iíll wait for Subaru to make a change or new model.
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Old 05-26-2024, 06:30 PM   #11882
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Unfortunately it's not just the lack of paint on all that cladding. The cladding itself is ridiculous for what the car is. The rear bumper design with its awful protruding whatever thing is going on. The front end design is all wrong. Quite the mess simple paint won't fix.

I'm in the market with money burning a hole and I am disappoint.

It has forced me into much more expensive options. I'll be getting a lot more car for the added expense, but I probably would've been quite happy with a ProTuned Stg2 FA24DIT.


Pertruding rear bumper? It only sticks out 2.5Ē from the trunk lid. I doubt a VA is much less if at all. My Legacy GT is 3Ē.


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Old 05-26-2024, 07:32 PM   #11883
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Pertruding rear bumper? It only sticks out 2.5" from the trunk lid. I doubt a VA is much less if at all. My Legacy GT is 3".


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It actually is less than the VA. But, the design shore does make it look "protruding". Won't argue the weirdness of the design.



I feel lucky that it doesn't bother me. The only real reason I'd care if they "fixed" it is to get ALLL the crybabies to shut up. You don't like it. We get it.
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Old 05-26-2024, 07:45 PM   #11884
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They didn't do any damn thing differently between the new WRX and Levorg design process.
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Old Yesterday, 11:19 PM   #11885
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You don't like it.
I donít like it.
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